Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:This article (from August) is an interesting read, wherein the Wayfarer leadership discuss their business model and goals as a studio.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffconway/2024/08/08/meet-the-wayfarer-studios-team-bringing-it-ends-with-us-to-theaters/

In my opinion, the most interesting part of it is the part where Justin discusses Wayfarer's decision to partner with Sony on It Ends With Us (note: Sony was not just the distributor but also reportedly co-financed the film):

Justin is quoted as saying: "We ended up deciding to partner with Sony. We talked internally about it [at Wayfarer] - Well, should we make this on our own completely, or should we partner? We talked for a while about that, because on one hand, we were starting something that we wanted to be able to control completely, but on the other hand, we wanted to make sure that this had the best chance of being seen by as many people as possible.”

Sure seems like this suggests that as of August (after ALL of the alleged “steal the movie” stuff happened), Baldoni still recognized that Wayfarer had made the conscious strategic decision to give up some measure of control over the film in favor of making a movie with a bigger chance for significant box office success.


What an intelligent parse - that’s what I’m here for, the honesty, the legitimacy. He truly said in so many words, “Blake, please rewrite scenes, re-costume the character and up the wardrobe spend by a couple hundred thousand, please lobby everyone in writing for a PGA credit after being sick 6 times in a row - I loved your work taking 6 months off of The Rhythm Section for a knuckle injury- and then please ask Colleen Hoover to treat me like something underfoot. After all, I am trying to grow my studio by partnering with Sony!”



He did tell her to rewrite scenes. On April 7th (pre filming) Blake texted about the meet cute scene..."You ok if I play around with some or the dialogue or give her a bit more agency and....We can use some or all or none of it. I just don't want to step on any toes"

Baldoni answered "F*** yes. I couldn't agree more.....go play and then we can see how it feels together."

And I can't find the other text at the moment but also in April and it was about the rooftop scene - she asked if she could work on it or tell her to stand down if he didn't want her to and again he offered unbridled enthusiasm for her to take it on.


Reread what you quoted and wrote. No he did not request that she rewrite, descriptive term for you that I’m not allowed to add.

She did it and asked if he’d be okay with it. Not the same.


I agree. I didn't say he requested her to do them. She asked and gave him an out both times and he responded with unbridled enthusiasm that yes, he wanted her to work on these scenes. I edited out some of the quotes as they are both long winded but he talks about this is what he wanted, this kind of collaboration and them working together and that while he tried to give her character a voice, he wants her to give it a more authentic voice etc. This was all April (before filming started).


But you did.


I just looked back at my posts and don't see that. Where did I say it was at his request?


“He did tell her to rewrite scenes.” Enough.


Yes, he did tell her to do that. Go play and F*** yes are pretty resounding ways to say go do it. He told her to do it in response to her request.


Moving the goalpost again. He did not say that.


Yes he did. The acual texts are in the documents. You are more than welcome to check them for yourself. I had the document open while writing the post! I know most people are just relying on TikTok and reddit but if you read all the documents, you can find the actual texts between them
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Anonymous wrote:This article (from August) is an interesting read, wherein the Wayfarer leadership discuss their business model and goals as a studio.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffconway/2024/08/08/meet-the-wayfarer-studios-team-bringing-it-ends-with-us-to-theaters/

In my opinion, the most interesting part of it is the part where Justin discusses Wayfarer's decision to partner with Sony on It Ends With Us (note: Sony was not just the distributor but also reportedly co-financed the film):

Justin is quoted as saying: "We ended up deciding to partner with Sony. We talked internally about it [at Wayfarer] - Well, should we make this on our own completely, or should we partner? We talked for a while about that, because on one hand, we were starting something that we wanted to be able to control completely, but on the other hand, we wanted to make sure that this had the best chance of being seen by as many people as possible.”

Sure seems like this suggests that as of August (after ALL of the alleged “steal the movie” stuff happened), Baldoni still recognized that Wayfarer had made the conscious strategic decision to give up some measure of control over the film in favor of making a movie with a bigger chance for significant box office success.


Got 'em. Good point.

What an intelligent parse - that’s what I’m here for, the honesty, the legitimacy. He truly said in so many words, “Blake, please rewrite scenes, re-costume the character and up the wardrobe spend by a couple hundred thousand, please lobby everyone in writing for a PGA credit after being sick 6 times in a row - I loved your work taking 6 months off of The Rhythm Section for a knuckle injury- and then please ask Colleen Hoover to treat me like something underfoot. After all, I am trying to grow my studio by partnering with Sony!”



He did tell her to rewrite scenes. On April 7th (pre filming) Blake texted about the meet cute scene..."You ok if I play around with some or the dialogue or give her a bit more agency and....We can use some or all or none of it. I just don't want to step on any toes"

Baldoni answered "F*** yes. I couldn't agree more.....go play and then we can see how it feels together."

And I can't find the other text at the moment but also in April and it was about the rooftop scene - she asked if she could work on it or tell her to stand down if he didn't want her to and again he offered unbridled enthusiasm for her to take it on.


Reread what you quoted and wrote. No he did not request that she rewrite, descriptive term for you that I’m not allowed to add.

She did it and asked if he’d be okay with it. Not the same.


I agree. I didn't say he requested her to do them. She asked and gave him an out both times and he responded with unbridled enthusiasm that yes, he wanted her to work on these scenes. I edited out some of the quotes as they are both long winded but he talks about this is what he wanted, this kind of collaboration and them working together and that while he tried to give her character a voice, he wants her to give it a more authentic voice etc. This was all April (before filming started).


Yes, was going to say this. I get that she was pushing to have input but I kept reading his complaint waiting for where he or someone else at Wayfarer was going to say to her "look, you're overstepping, the is outside your job," but it just never happens. I do think she has a pushy personality and was seeking to make her role as big as possible, but I also think they seem to be giving her the impression that this was welcome while then shttalking her behind her back. It is a weird dynamic that I think made the situation much worse. They had real communication issues and they can't all be blamed on Lively.


I think too why they bonded initially was that both have this creative drive to be authentic to the characters. I think there wa good will on both sides initially and Justin wanted Blake's input to make this the most authentic, best ever, woman driven character and Blake wanted to also make it the character that in her mind was most authentic. I think this is the quirky artist in both of them. Things went south when filming started but on the surface they both kept up the initial connection for awhile before everything fell apart. I get the sense they both see themselves as deep connected to the art authentic artists. At some point Wayfarer should have stepped in and said enough and at some point Blake seemed to be in for the role and recognition but they both carried on a charade for a long time...in parallel to the behavioral issues on set that they were speaking about and dealing with. It is a weird dynamic.


Lively didn’t even read the book. WTAF at the idea that she wanted to be true to the character as defined by the book she refused to read.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


He might have. But the Hollywood reporter edited its article to say “incident” instead of “complaint.” It now says the “incident” made its way back to Sony. Why would they do that? Maybe she didn’t even make an HR complaint.


Again. They couldn't make an official complaint to Sony HR because Sony was the distribution company, not the production company. They could only make a complaint to Wayfarer HR and obviously a lot of conflict of interest there, or they could ask SAG AFTRA to review their complaint and send a letter to Wayfarer asking them to investigate. Either way - it was going to Wayfarer and the people who the complaint was about was the Wayfarer executive.
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Noted from the Reddit thread.

YIKES. “An employee lodged a workplace complaint to the film’s distributor through official channels” is a VERY different statement than “there was an incident, people heard about it.” Those are two wildly different statements — I’m shocked there isn’t an amendment at the bottom of the story that “at the time of writing, our reporters were told of an official complaint to a HR department, and now cannot verify it happened.”
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No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


He might have. But the Hollywood reporter edited its article to say “incident” instead of “complaint.” It now says the “incident” made its way back to Sony. Why would they do that? Maybe she didn’t even make an HR complaint.


Again. They couldn't make an official complaint to Sony HR because Sony was the distribution company, not the production company. They could only make a complaint to Wayfarer HR and obviously a lot of conflict of interest there, or they could ask SAG AFTRA to review their complaint and send a letter to Wayfarer asking them to investigate. Either way - it was going to Wayfarer and the people who the complaint was about was the Wayfarer executive.


None of this makes any sense. SAG-AFTRA routinely proposes they can shut down production if they receive anonymous sexual harassment complaints. Now the story has changed and they refer the victim to the production company as if they don't have a protocol when the abuser is the CEO of said company. This doesn't make a lick of sense. Somebody has the incorrect information.
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No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


He might have. But the Hollywood reporter edited its article to say “incident” instead of “complaint.” It now says the “incident” made its way back to Sony. Why would they do that? Maybe she didn’t even make an HR complaint.


Again. They couldn't make an official complaint to Sony HR because Sony was the distribution company, not the production company. They could only make a complaint to Wayfarer HR and obviously a lot of conflict of interest there, or they could ask SAG AFTRA to review their complaint and send a letter to Wayfarer asking them to investigate. Either way - it was going to Wayfarer and the people who the complaint was about was the Wayfarer executive.


None of this makes any sense. SAG-AFTRA routinely proposes they can shut down production if they receive anonymous sexual harassment complaints. Now the story has changed and they refer the victim to the production company as if they don't have a protocol when the abuser is the CEO of said company. This doesn't make a lick of sense. Somebody has the incorrect information.


Go read SAG AFTRAs website. I posted the links earlier. You are welcome to read it yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


What you "feel" and what the facts are, are completely different and for some reason you keep conflating the two and then attempting to act like you're some mensa grad who we need to acquiesce to for the rules and facts of the case. You have about as much credibility as Lively's dragons.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


So she’s a batshit feminist who serial plays the gender card? Got it. But not feminist enough to not whine to a rich male boss to get him to cover relocation expenses because her luxury apt isn’t posh enough. Or whatever. And use her kid as a guilt-tripping excuse. Then run to HR that her single mom guilt-tripping worked on the rich male mark and he allegedly said something creepy or offensive. Was she trying to shake him down for more or was that just an assist to BL in this broader scheme? Who freaking knows. These wackos live in the clouds. Nobody normal reads this babble and sees victims. Bunch of coddled phonies and scammers.


She didn’t go to “HR.” There’s no there there. There’s no there there with any of Blake’s nonsense. If these two had brains they’d pay Justin a boatload of money and fade away from public life for a few years.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


You say in this comment that you don’t know
what he said, but then go on to say you definitely know what he didn’t say. lol.


I feel confident he didn't say "I really value motherhood" because that's a totally innocuous statement and I simply do not believe that an actress with zero history of diva-ish behavior on set would get so upset about that she would report it to HR. It makes no sense. Slate has been low key and non-litigious, I think it's unfair to assume she'd do something flatly ridiculous.


Zero history of diva behavior? She was literally whining in vivid detail about a luxury apt to her rich boss. She knew exactly what she was doing.


Come on, Jenny Slate is really low profile and not that big of a name and I have heard controversial things about her. There’s stuff out there about her physically abusing Chris Evans when they dated and I’m someone is not a particular fan. I just happened to have picked this up through celebrity gossip. So please don’t say she’s got a reputation as a normal person. Or that she has zero behavior issues on set, she is simply not that high profile of an actress.

We absolutely do not know if this is out of realm for her behavior or how many other HR complaints were filed on other sets that we’ve never heard of.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


Jenny lasted one season on SNL which is absolutely not the norm. It sounded like she had a tumultuous time there and left on bad terms.
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I am not saying she hasn't had things done but she still looks very much like her younger self.


no she doesn’t. She looks totally different.

I think she’s obviously objectively attractive and the surgery is subtle, but there’s something very weird about how she looks.

She has had exquisite plastic surgery, her rhinoplasty is perfect, her surgeon deserves an award. She’s the same as many other actors in Hollywood. Don’t fool yourselves into thinking these are close to natural looks.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


You say in this comment that you don’t know
what he said, but then go on to say you definitely know what he didn’t say. lol.


I feel confident he didn't say "I really value motherhood" because that's a totally innocuous statement and I simply do not believe that an actress with zero history of diva-ish behavior on set would get so upset about that she would report it to HR. It makes no sense. Slate has been low key and non-litigious, I think it's unfair to assume she'd do something flatly ridiculous.


Zero history of diva behavior? She was literally whining in vivid detail about a luxury apt to her rich boss. She knew exactly what she was doing.


Come on, Jenny Slate is really low profile and not that big of a name and I have heard controversial things about her. There’s stuff out there about her physically abusing Chris Evans when they dated and I’m someone is not a particular fan. I just happened to have picked this up through celebrity gossip. So please don’t say she’s got a reputation as a normal person. Or that she has zero behavior issues on set, she is simply not that high profile of an actress.

We absolutely do not know if this is out of realm for her behavior or how many other HR complaints were filed on other sets that we’ve never heard of.


Since we're all talking about "feelings", I've always a "feeling" that Jenny Slate wasn't acting in this movie. Her character was so convincingly irritating, that when the trial comes out and she's forced to provide witness testimony, I guarantee you the comment about motherhood is going to be some ridiculously insipid comment that would have went over the heads of anyone else whose actually normal. Straight out of the Karen playbook.
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Another notable comment from Reddit.

“Someone filed a formal HR complaint about Justin Baldoni” is very different from “Sony heard about an incident involving Mr. Heath.”

First, you implicate the wrong person entirely. Second, how did word get back to Sony? Did Jenny Slate talk to a higher up and raise her concerns? Did she tell a friend privately, but didn’t think it was a big enough deal to bring it up to leadership, but that friend told an exec about it? What if she told Blake and Blake talked to a Sony executive about it?

That context and nuance matters. It’s stuff like this that erodes credibility.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


Someone posted a comment of hers from when she had a Reddit account. She said that during her time on SNL she asked people to stop saying “now is the time for women in comedy.” She said it was patronizing to women. She didn’t want her gender to define her.

I have no problem with that. But she might have a sensitivity here that she spoke out about and that was addressed. Something that would never even be a blip is it weren’t for this crazy case.


Ok but again, look at how she handled it -- people were saying this thing she took issue with, so she would come back and say "please don't say that, it's patronizing." She didn't file an HR complaint. And I guarantee that the SNL writers room involves a lot more offensive and off-color jokes and comments than most film and TV sets. So again, I really struggle with believing that Heath said something totally innocuous and then Slate blew it way out of proportion and took it to HR. It just does not track at all with what I know about her as a person and the way she's conducted her career thus far. She's low key, no one has ever reported her as hard to work with, and she has a very broad and forgiving sense of humor. It just doesn't track that she flipped out about a mildly awkward statement.

I really do not know enough about Heath to know what he might have said. But I feel like I have a sense of Slate's personality and sense of humor and that makes me think he said something really off.


He might have. But the Hollywood reporter edited its article to say “incident” instead of “complaint.” It now says the “incident” made its way back to Sony. Why would they do that? Maybe she didn’t even make an HR complaint.


Again. They couldn't make an official complaint to Sony HR because Sony was the distribution company, not the production company. They could only make a complaint to Wayfarer HR and obviously a lot of conflict of interest there, or they could ask SAG AFTRA to review their complaint and send a letter to Wayfarer asking them to investigate. Either way - it was going to Wayfarer and the people who the complaint was about was the Wayfarer executive.


None of this makes any sense. SAG-AFTRA routinely proposes they can shut down production if they receive anonymous sexual harassment complaints. Now the story has changed and they refer the victim to the production company as if they don't have a protocol when the abuser is the CEO of said company. This doesn't make a lick of sense. Somebody has the incorrect information.


I've seen this mentioned on this thread several times but have never heard of this happening. I don't think SAG "routinely" shuts down productions based on anonymous SH complaints. In fact I'd love to hear of this literally ever happening.

I think they could effectively shut down a set if actors complained of violations of union guidelines, by the union workers refusing to work (either a formal strike or just a sick out or something). But I think the violations would need to be substantiated and really bad. I think the lower level kind of "it made me uncomfortable" SH alleged on IEWU would result in SAG writing a letter and requesting the studio to investigate and take action. But I don't think you'd ever see a set shut down for this kind of thing.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, they got a woman who was whining about a luxury apartment, then given $15,000 by a generous rich guy, and then whines to HR they he only gave her the reimbursement to move because he… values motherhood? These people are batshit.

No good deed goes unpunished in Hollyweird. Pit of vipers.

There are millions of working mothers at dead-end jobs who wish their bosses would merely give them a day off work once in a while. These people are scammers living in lala land.


If all he'd said was "I really value motherhood," there is no way it would have been some kind of reported incident. Jenny Slate is, by all accounts, a fairly normal, pleasant person. I just don't believe she'd report the incident to anyone if he said something that innocuous. I don't know what he said (and neither do you), but it definitely wasn't "I just really value motherhood."


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what he said, but then go on to say you definitely know what he didn’t say. lol.


I feel confident he didn't say "I really value motherhood" because that's a totally innocuous statement and I simply do not believe that an actress with zero history of diva-ish behavior on set would get so upset about that she would report it to HR. It makes no sense. Slate has been low key and non-litigious, I think it's unfair to assume she'd do something flatly ridiculous.


Zero history of diva behavior? She was literally whining in vivid detail about a luxury apt to her rich boss. She knew exactly what she was doing.


Come on, Jenny Slate is really low profile and not that big of a name and I have heard controversial things about her. There’s stuff out there about her physically abusing Chris Evans when they dated and I’m someone is not a particular fan. I just happened to have picked this up through celebrity gossip. So please don’t say she’s got a reputation as a normal person. Or that she has zero behavior issues on set, she is simply not that high profile of an actress.

We absolutely do not know if this is out of realm for her behavior or how many other HR complaints were filed on other sets that we’ve never heard of.


I have never heard anything about her physically abusing Chris Evans, wtf. Also, isn't Jenny Slate like 5 feet tall? And Chris Evans is... Captain America? That strains credulity, sorry.

Can you cite a single actual report of her being difficult to work with or displaying difficult or concerning behavior?
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