Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe Qarni has the power to "ban" Asra. This doesn't seem legal.

Exactly. I am going to write the Governor today. Qarni is running rogue.

She openly writes hate speech, and material that indirectly disparages the entire Black and Hispanic communities on her Twitter profile with regularity. The work session is not about whether to solve the TJ admissions issue, but rather how.

Er...didn't you just write 25 pages worth of material that DIRECTLY disparages the entire Asian community? Calling them prep robots, suicide candidates, bad parents, selfish, inflexible and god knows what else? Compared to you, Asma seems like an improved version.

i love when people assume there's just ONE person on all of these threads who disagrees with them

It's easy when the writing style is so transparent.

okay - keep believeing that.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

The list is:

Everyone who thinks that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less intelligent than white and Asian students shouldn't have a voice in this conversation. Period. If that happens to coincide with people who voted for Trump, so be it. I would hope that it isn't.

[Anonymous]

Keys Gamarra weighs in: https://twitter.com/Keys_Gamarra/status/1304187426731184128?s=20

The irony is that if she really had the courage of her convictions she'd be calling for TJ's dissolution, but this exercise is intended to make sure a few more Black and Hispanic kids get into TJ, so faux liberals like KKG can declare "victory" and give each other awards and endorsements. Never mind that most students still won't have the opportunities that FCPS provides to but a very small number of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

The list is:

Everyone who thinks that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less intelligent than white and Asian students shouldn't have a voice in this conversation. Period. If that happens to coincide with people who voted for Trump, so be it. I would hope that it isn't.

Jumping in here, but I would add you should be banned if you think people should be able to pay to get ahead thru prep

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Anonymous wrote:Keys Gamarra weighs in: https://twitter.com/Keys_Gamarra/status/1304187426731184128?s=20

The irony is that if she really had the courage of her convictions she'd be calling for TJ's dissolution, but this exercise is intended to make sure a few more Black and Hispanic kids get into TJ, so faux liberals like KKG can declare "victory" and give each other awards and endorsements. Never mind that most students still won't have the opportunities that FCPS provides to but a very small number of kids.

She knows that TJ's dissolution would have a negative effect on home values and business participation in Fairfax County. No elected official in their right mind would call for that regardless of their political bent, because you can't legislate from the sidelines.

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The TJ Alumni Action Group is no better than Asra Nomani.

They all think that the TJ model is perfectly appropriate and that TJ is the golden ticket to life.

Nomani wants admissions to be primarily test-based; TJAAG members are embarrassed by the school's current demographics and want soft quotas for black and Hispanic kids to make the alumni feel better about their alma mater.

None of them care about anyone other than TJ students. To hell with all of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Keys Gamarra weighs in: https://twitter.com/Keys_Gamarra/status/1304187426731184128?s=20

The irony is that if she really had the courage of her convictions she'd be calling for TJ's dissolution, but this exercise is intended to make sure a few more Black and Hispanic kids get into TJ, so faux liberals like KKG can declare "victory" and give each other awards and endorsements. Never mind that most students still won't have the opportunities that FCPS provides to but a very small number of kids.

She knows that TJ's dissolution would have a negative effect on home values and business participation in Fairfax County. No elected official in their right mind would call for that regardless of their political bent, because you can't legislate from the sidelines.

I have no idea how she would "know" that; in fact, home values in some neighborhoods would just as likely increase if TJ were actually serving county students rather than students from other jurisdictions.

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Anonymous wrote:Keys Gamarra weighs in: https://twitter.com/Keys_Gamarra/status/1304187426731184128?s=20

The irony is that if she really had the courage of her convictions she'd be calling for TJ's dissolution, but this exercise is intended to make sure a few more Black and Hispanic kids get into TJ, so faux liberals like KKG can declare "victory" and give each other awards and endorsements. Never mind that most students still won't have the opportunities that FCPS provides to but a very small number of kids.

She knows that TJ's dissolution would have a negative effect on home values and business participation in Fairfax County. No elected official in their right mind would call for that regardless of their political bent, because you can't legislate from the sidelines.

I have no idea how she would "know" that; in fact, home values in some neighborhoods would just as likely increase if TJ were actually serving county students rather than students from other jurisdictions.

Oh, I agree with this. It would be GREAT if Governor's Schools were allowed to limit participation to one jurisdiction. I would LOVE a TJ that served only Fairfax County residents.

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Anonymous wrote:The TJ Alumni Action Group is no better than Asra Nomani.

They all think that the TJ model is perfectly appropriate and that TJ is the golden ticket to life.

Nomani wants admissions to be primarily test-based; TJAAG members are embarrassed by the school's current demographics and want soft quotas for black and Hispanic kids to make the alumni feel better about their alma mater.

None of them care about anyone other than TJ students. To hell with all of them.

That alumni group, a small subset of TJ alumni, do not care about current TJ students. They think they are better than the Asian American students who currently attend (they liked the school when it was mostly white) and are trying to reduce the numbers of Asian American kids.

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Oh, I agree with this. It would be GREAT if Governor's Schools were allowed to limit participation to one jurisdiction. I would LOVE a TJ that served only Fairfax County residents.

Well then they wouldn't really be Governor's Schools, would they. Is FCPS going to pay back all the money it got from the state and from other participating jurisdictions for capital projects?

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

The list is:

Everyone who thinks that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less intelligent than white and Asian students shouldn't have a voice in this conversation. Period. If that happens to coincide with people who voted for Trump, so be it. I would hope that it isn't.

I see. Then why did you bring up her relationship with Islam? Why did you mention she was born in Mumbai? Did you imply that anyone born in Mumbai cannot opine on the state of TJ, or is somehow less than someone born in the US? Why did you bring up her voting record? Why not lead with what you REALLY consider objectionable?

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

The list is:

Everyone who thinks that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less intelligent than white and Asian students shouldn't have a voice in this conversation. Period. If that happens to coincide with people who voted for Trump, so be it. I would hope that it isn't.

I see. Then why did you bring up her relationship with Islam? Why did you mention she was born in Mumbai? Did you imply that anyone born in Mumbai cannot opine on the state of TJ, or is somehow less than someone born in the US? Why did you bring up her voting record? Why not lead with what you REALLY consider objectionable?

Her hypocrisy, opportunism, and overt AND covert racism are what are objectionable.

[Anonymous]

What does this have to do with her religion and her national origin?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Asra Nomani is a nominally Muslim woman born in Mumbai who voted for Donald Trump, argued in favor of his ban on immigration from select Muslim-majority countries, and supports racial profiling against Muslims. Her views on Islam are fairly well-understood as "Islam should change fundamentally from what it has been for millenia" - why she feels the need to continue to self-identify with a religion she disagrees with on such a visceral level is a mystery to most who follow her career.

She currently has a senior at TJ and has been, very vocally and very recently, thunderously in support of the very narrow definition of merit that has been peddled by those seeking to maintain the status quo with respect to TJ admissions, and those seeking to break down the recent improvements in elite college admissions. It is no accident that she has taken up this mantle as her son begins the college application process.

She carries over 50,000 followers on Twitter due to her past as a professor at Georgetown and as a Wall Street Journal contributor. Both associations ended poorly. Her Twitter feed reads very much like Trump's - vicious, insecure, self-serving, jingoistic, and full of retweets of literally any account (human or bot) that appears to agree with her. Seemingly her favorite tactic is to intentionally misinterpret the arguments and intentions of anyone who disagrees with her and to lampoon them publicly.

Key example - she is claiming right now that the TJ PTSA is banned from these conversations. It is only Asra who is banned, but her intent is to inflame public opinion against meaningful change by claiming that Secy. Qarni is banning the entire TJ PTSA from the sessions. It's a clever tactic, and one that might be successful with an increasingly myopic community, but it's severely disingenuous and a perfect example of how she operates.

Neither her views on Islam (I mean, what exactly are your credentials to assess them) nor her political affiliation should be a factor in the decision to allow or to ban her from these proceedings. Half the country voted for Trump - will you ban them too? What is this discrimination based on political views?

Did I say anything about the merits of her being banned? Crucially, I did not. The purpose of the biographical information is to provide context for her perspective. I am in favor of her being banned because of her inflammatory and derogatory rhetoric on various social media platforms which insinuates that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less qualified than Asian students - which I view as a moral rather than a political issue - but in this particular post I did not reference the merits of her being banned.

I would similarly argue that anyone who believes that slavery was a good thing should probably not have a voice in conversations about Confederate monuments.

Interesting. So you propose everyone who voted for Trump be banned from these proceedings? Or all Muslims? Or all Islam-critical Muslims? Let's see a full list of your enlightened criteria on who should be allowed to participate in this debate.

The list is:

Everyone who thinks that Black and Hispanic students are inherently less intelligent than white and Asian students shouldn't have a voice in this conversation. Period. If that happens to coincide with people who voted for Trump, so be it. I would hope that it isn't.

I see. Then why did you bring up her relationship with Islam? Why did you mention she was born in Mumbai? Did you imply that anyone born in Mumbai cannot opine on the state of TJ, or is somehow less than someone born in the US? Why did you bring up her voting record? Why not lead with what you REALLY consider objectionable?

Her hypocrisy, opportunism, and overt AND covert racism are what are objectionable.

How about your racism towards Asians?