Succession - Season 4

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What are Ken’s instructions to Hugo at the end? The bad dad stuff?
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Anonymous wrote:What are Ken’s instructions to Hugo at the end? The bad dad stuff?


He's saying, put out there that dad was losing it towards the end and it was really the kids making the decisions for him. To give Ken and Rome more validity as CEOs.

But he doesn't want Karolina, Roman, anyone to know that he gave those instructions. It has to be 'under the table'.

In exchange, Kendall is going to protect Hugo if an insider trading problem happens because of what his daughter did.
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I have (re)watched episodes of this show scores of times and I thought Roman was the youngest!!
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Anonymous wrote:I have (re)watched episodes of this show scores of times and I thought Roman was the youngest!!


Me too! He seems the youngest in every way. lol
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I have heard in a couple of podcasts that season 4 is going to be 10 episodes, 10 consecutive days. So basically there are seven days to go...
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Anonymous wrote:I think some of you are way off on the amnio thing. It makes perfect sense. They would clearly do the cell free DNA test (as most of us do, I think? I definitely did) and then the 12 week scan. There are several things that can get flagged by one of those where you then basically have to wait a few weeks and do the amnio to have a definitive answer. Like Spina Bifida. So in the story, it makes sense that maybe since the pregnancy was maybe not going to work out she put off telling Tom, and now that she has the all clear from the amnio she knows she’s going to have to tell him.


I agree with you, the amnio timing and having it done makes perfect sense. It was even explained by the doctor on the call, who said something about concerns that had come up on the earlier tests to make the amnio necessary.

I do also think, though, that someone like Shiv would inevitably get pretty much all the tests even if not over 35 because rich people tend to over-test medically -- it's very common for people who don't have to worry about the cost of medical care to get unnecessary tests because it's assumed this is equal to better care. They also tend to be extremely risk averse health wise, so a test that would reveal a genetic abnormality would be of high interest even if there was no indication that it was necessary.


Maybe. I don't buy that and the entire dialogue between Shiv and her doctor don't support it either. It was also not necessary to introduce the complex topic of amniocentesis to let us know definitively that Shiv was pregnant. In the last episode, Shiv turns down champagne at the wedding in favor of water. The clothes. The general dishevledness. They were all hints. The amnio was introduced for a reason beyond a pregnancy announcement, and I think beyond letting us know how far along she was.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.


Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?



Um, no. With Kerri as his closest confidante, what did he need Marcia for?


Disagree. What did Logan ever need Marcia for? And yet here's Marcia playing grieving widow, earning $63 million at her husband's wake, cruelly banishing his latest mistress by ordering around the exact same guys that her husband was ordering around a few days ago. Marcia is not to be underestimated. Logan could have paid her off, cut her out, and gotten rid of her long ago. And yet...


Marcia is kind of awesome, though she has no standing to judge Willa.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.


Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?



Um, no. With Kerri as his closest confidante, what did he need Marcia for?


Disagree. What did Logan ever need Marcia for? And yet here's Marcia playing grieving widow, earning $63 million at her husband's wake, cruelly banishing his latest mistress by ordering around the exact same guys that her husband was ordering around a few days ago. Marcia is not to be underestimated. Logan could have paid her off, cut her out, and gotten rid of her long ago. And yet...


Marcia is kind of awesome, though she has no standing to judge Willa.


PP here. I am Team Willa because Willa understands exactly who Marcia is and Marcia knows it. But those two have no reason to actually fight each other. Willa's just letting Marcia know that she's not taking any of her crap. Marcia and Willa have had a similar path in life and Marcia isn't going back.
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I really enjoyed the gallows humor from the sibs in this episode.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.


Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?



Um, no. With Kerri as his closest confidante, what did he need Marcia for?


Disagree. What did Logan ever need Marcia for? And yet here's Marcia playing grieving widow, earning $63 million at her husband's wake, cruelly banishing his latest mistress by ordering around the exact same guys that her husband was ordering around a few days ago. Marcia is not to be underestimated. Logan could have paid her off, cut her out, and gotten rid of her long ago. And yet...


Marcia is kind of awesome, though she has no standing to judge Willa.


PP here. I am Team Willa because Willa understands exactly who Marcia is and Marcia knows it. But those two have no reason to actually fight each other. Willa's just letting Marcia know that she's not taking any of her crap. Marcia and Willa have had a similar path in life and Marcia isn't going back.



Yes, I loved that 'takes one to know one' exchange.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


They showed her negotiating her post-nup after Logan's affair with the Holly Hunter character. We know it was very generous to Marcia.


Do you think she was honest when she said that her and Logan talked every day?



Um, no. With Kerri as his closest confidante, what did he need Marcia for?


Disagree. What did Logan ever need Marcia for? And yet here's Marcia playing grieving widow, earning $63 million at her husband's wake, cruelly banishing his latest mistress by ordering around the exact same guys that her husband was ordering around a few days ago. Marcia is not to be underestimated. Logan could have paid her off, cut her out, and gotten rid of her long ago. And yet...


Marcia is kind of awesome, though she has no standing to judge Willa.


PP here. I am Team Willa because Willa understands exactly who Marcia is and Marcia knows it. But those two have no reason to actually fight each other. Willa's just letting Marcia know that she's not taking any of her crap. Marcia and Willa have had a similar path in life and Marcia isn't going back.


I didn't know this, Can you share some more about Marcia's background?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


Say more. How was the apartment almost Kerri's?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh snap! PPs bet wrong- both Kerri and Marcia back!


That was brutal, not that I minded. But for a twist of fate, the $63 million apartment could have been Kerri's in a matter of months. I would also Marcia would have an ironclad prenup in place, will be interesting to see how that pans out.


Say more. How was the apartment almost Kerri's?


NP but Logan was going to marry her in a few months - according to lies/truths he told Kerri.
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Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

In Connor's case, I think it was more of a status thing. He mentioned it was difficult to get into a building like that.
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