Anyone else educated by FCPS and sees the decline?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD went to FCPS and it was great. it all fell apart when the board went woke and the DEI initiatives began. Which is why TJ fell to 14. Fortunately that is changing

14 out of 25,000 high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD went to FCPS and it was great. it all fell apart when the board went woke and the DEI initiatives began. Which is why TJ fell to 14. Fortunately that is changing

14 out of 25,000 high schools.

DP. It’s a symptom of the broader disease. Wait until you see what they do with the remaining high performing schools.

[Anonymous]

My kid graduated with above a 4.0 and failed a class at a mid-level college which was just the next class in a sequence that they got an A at the year before. I knew the classes were too easy in high school but am happy at least at the college level they are still trying to prepare kids for the workforce.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t read actual books/novels in elementary and middle anymore because everything is laser focused on the shorter “passages” that appear on the standardized tests. They just read those 2-3 page short stories or articles and that’s it.

And yet they have to fill out a reading log with comments about what they read and are encouraged to read chapter books. Reading is the easiest thing to encourage at home.

Push it off to the parents/kids themselves, that’s a recipe for success for sure. When I was a kid, we read chapter books as a class in school. Everyone got to read books. Now we’re trusting the kids and the parents to just take care of it at home, why?

Because that’s the job of a parent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated with above a 4.0 and failed a class at a mid-level college which was just the next class in a sequence that they got an A at the year before. I knew the classes were too easy in high school but am happy at least at the college level they are still trying to prepare kids for the workforce.

Unless you’re pre-med, pre-law, or in a STEM subject, college doesn’t prepare you for the workforce. Every job you take, with the exception of those previously mentioned, will train you to do that job. 90% of the jobs in the workforce will “teach” you how to do that job. College is great for bridging the gap so that young people can mature more before joining the workforce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t read actual books/novels in elementary and middle anymore because everything is laser focused on the shorter “passages” that appear on the standardized tests. They just read those 2-3 page short stories or articles and that’s it.

And yet they have to fill out a reading log with comments about what they read and are encouraged to read chapter books. Reading is the easiest thing to encourage at home.

Push it off to the parents/kids themselves, that’s a recipe for success for sure. When I was a kid, we read chapter books as a class in school. Everyone got to read books. Now we’re trusting the kids and the parents to just take care of it at home, why?

Because forcing kids to read something that may not interest them is a great way to get them to dislike reading. Letting each kid choose the books they want to read will get them reading more.

No, choosing books out of the age-appropriate canon and reading them together in class teaches kids how to actually read a longer/chapter book and how to analyze the text. We read Charlotte’s Web as a class in I think 3rd, and Hatchet and The Indian in the Cupboard in 5th. Did every kid want to read these, probably not. Did I want to read The Scarlet Letter in sophomore English - definitely not! But it’s part of the curriculum. A kid can still get something out of a novel even if it’s not something they’d choose on their own and with the guided reading from the whole class, they can answer questions and increase their understanding vs. reading at home and writing 2-3 sentences in their “reading log.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated with above a 4.0 and failed a class at a mid-level college which was just the next class in a sequence that they got an A at the year before. I knew the classes were too easy in high school but am happy at least at the college level they are still trying to prepare kids for the workforce.

Unless you’re pre-med, pre-law, or in a STEM subject, college doesn’t prepare you for the workforce. Every job you take, with the exception of those previously mentioned, will train you to do that job. 90% of the jobs in the workforce will “teach” you how to do that job. College is great for bridging the gap so that young people can mature more before joining the workforce.

Disagree although the majority of college majors these days are within those 3 things listed. Either way, it shouldn't be typical for a child to get an A in FCPS in one class and then fail the next level the following year in college. That means there is a disconnect in level of teaching and assessment from high school to college. The AP high school class was supposedly harder than the college class which was just a typical non-honors college class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated with above a 4.0 and failed a class at a mid-level college which was just the next class in a sequence that they got an A at the year before. I knew the classes were too easy in high school but am happy at least at the college level they are still trying to prepare kids for the workforce.

Unless you’re pre-med, pre-law, or in a STEM subject, college doesn’t prepare you for the workforce. Every job you take, with the exception of those previously mentioned, will train you to do that job. 90% of the jobs in the workforce will “teach” you how to do that job. College is great for bridging the gap so that young people can mature more before joining the workforce.

Disagree although the majority of college majors these days are within those 3 things listed. Either way, it shouldn't be typical for a child to get an A in FCPS in one class and then fail the next level the following year in college. That means there is a disconnect in level of teaching and assessment from high school to college. The AP high school class was supposedly harder than the college class which was just a typical non-honors college class.

Or maybe it just means your kid wasn’t disciplined and didn’t work hard enough in college. It’s convenient to blame FCPS and absolve your kid from any responsibility for failing a class.

[Anonymous]

My college freshman just got his first semester grades. He got 2 Cs (first ever Cs in his school career). He got them because he turned in two papers late. In both classes, he turned them in 3 days late. He had As in both classes but they dropped to Cs because of the two late papers (after two days late, you get a zero). Maybe public schools need to focus more on skills like turning work in on time or penalties will apply. My kid is in shock that he got zeros from work that was late. FCPS trained him to not pay attention to due dates.

[Anonymous]

The Fairfax school system is nothing like it was in the 80's and 90's. NOTHING. It's terrible now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman just got his first semester grades. He got 2 Cs (first ever Cs in his school career). He got them because he turned in two papers late. In both classes, he turned them in 3 days late. He had As in both classes but they dropped to Cs because of the two late papers (after two days late, you get a zero). Maybe public schools need to focus more on skills like turning work in on time or penalties will apply. My kid is in shock that he got zeros from work that was late. FCPS trained him to not pay attention to due dates.

You failed him not FCPS but it's easy to blame someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman just got his first semester grades. He got 2 Cs (first ever Cs in his school career). He got them because he turned in two papers late. In both classes, he turned them in 3 days late. He had As in both classes but they dropped to Cs because of the two late papers (after two days late, you get a zero). Maybe public schools need to focus more on skills like turning work in on time or penalties will apply. My kid is in shock that he got zeros from work that was late. FCPS trained him to not pay attention to due dates.

You failed him not FCPS but it's easy to blame someone else.

DP. Dumbest comment I’ve read on DCUM. You are the living embodiment of a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman just got his first semester grades. He got 2 Cs (first ever Cs in his school career). He got them because he turned in two papers late. In both classes, he turned them in 3 days late. He had As in both classes but they dropped to Cs because of the two late papers (after two days late, you get a zero). Maybe public schools need to focus more on skills like turning work in on time or penalties will apply. My kid is in shock that he got zeros from work that was late. FCPS trained him to not pay attention to due dates.

You failed him not FCPS but it's easy to blame someone else.

Actually, I was happy he finally knows what due dates are. Hopefully, it only takes one time for him to unlearn what years of FCPS has taught him. Due dates are real and not meeting them have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Sad. When I went to FCPS, we read books, wrote papers, and knew that deadlines matter. For the most part, that was true for our kids as well. Don’t know why they’d relax standards other than to create an illusion of achievement for kids who are just dialing it in. It doesn’t serve anyone’s interests in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated with above a 4.0 and failed a class at a mid-level college which was just the next class in a sequence that they got an A at the year before. I knew the classes were too easy in high school but am happy at least at the college level they are still trying to prepare kids for the workforce.

Unless you’re pre-med, pre-law, or in a STEM subject, college doesn’t prepare you for the workforce. Every job you take, with the exception of those previously mentioned, will train you to do that job. 90% of the jobs in the workforce will “teach” you how to do that job. College is great for bridging the gap so that young people can mature more before joining the workforce.

Disagree although the majority of college majors these days are within those 3 things listed. Either way, it shouldn't be typical for a child to get an A in FCPS in one class and then fail the next level the following year in college. That means there is a disconnect in level of teaching and assessment from high school to college. The AP high school class was supposedly harder than the college class which was just a typical non-honors college class.

Or maybe it just means your kid wasn’t disciplined and didn’t work hard enough in college. It’s convenient to blame FCPS and absolve your kid from any responsibility for failing a class.

DP. On the other hand, perhaps it is convenient to blame the kids and absolve FCPS of any responsibility. The kids are works in progress. FCPS is a government institution that should get its priorities straight. It only seems to be progressing downward because it has decided that making sure students graduate with an education is secondary to signaling virtue.