Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

You should read up then because this decision is about allowing state legislatures to determine what abortion rights are available at each state. A state legislature can decide complete banning of abortion, prosecution of women and doctors, access to medical records etc.

This is the most regressive ruling of the highest court of any developed country. It is astonishing what it signals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.

I posted after that I think there should be carveouts for rape, incest and medical problems.

Ohhh so just naughty sluts should be punished? That’s okay with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.

There are people who will slut shame that woman and make money out of the baby using shady adoption practices

and your point is what exactly?

[RTB]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.

Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.

But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.

There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.

In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.

There are many things that should not be decided by popular vote, even in a democracy and whether someone is forced to use their body to provide life to another person (this is conceding that a fetus is a human being) is one of them. What next? If it’s determined that my bone marrow can save someone’s child, can I be compelled to give marrow to save the child if I don’t want to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.

By "all" do you mean only white, Christian, and male lives? Because SCOTUS doesn't give a fig about minorities, women, the lbgtq+, or children being killed by guns outside of the womb,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.

Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.

They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.

YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you

I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.

Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?

No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.

well..not yet. maybe go back and re-read Thomas's opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

You should read up then because this decision is about allowing state legislatures to determine what abortion rights are available at each state. A state legislature can decide complete banning of abortion, prosecution of women and doctors, access to medical records etc.

This is the most regressive ruling of the highest court of any developed country. It is astonishing what it signals.

It is astonishing that we still have mealy mouthed both sidesers pretending that it’s the Democrats fault for simultaneously being too liberal and too conservative and all I can say is every one needs to vote for the Democrats. The reason the GOP has been successful in this endeavor is that they vote. Over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.

We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!

I’m not abandoning my country to the fascists. They are the minority.

But yet they hold the Supreme Court tried to take over the presidency by force and have mitch blocking everything in the senate.

[Anonymous]

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.

Individual health care decisions should never have been a part of the political process. Can you imagine if we needed states to decide if someone should have an appendix removed? Are there states regulating if we should or shouldn’t treat lung cancer? No! Even when we are all born with an appendix (so higher being created that appendix if that’s your belief) or lung cancer from smoking was self inflicted…we don’t look to the politicians and the public to decide IF that person should get the procedure their medical team and they have decided on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.

Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.

But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.

There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.

In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.

You're basically an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.

Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.

They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.

YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you

I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.

Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?

No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.

People were saying the same thing about abortion a year ago, and yet here we are.

[Anonymous]

Interesting that our so called elite liberal universities (Harvard, Yale) keep giving us these type of justices....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.

We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!

I’m not abandoning my country to the fascists. They are the minority.

But yet they hold the Supreme Court tried to take over the presidency by force and have mitch blocking everything in the senate.

Yeah and I’ll say it again: I think that’s a lie. I think the GOP has been switching votes. I don’t think the GOP has near the amount of votes that we think they do.

Of course they’ve rigged enough so it gives the appearance that they do, but duck them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.

Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.

They are cells in the beginning. I agree.

Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.

YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you

I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.

Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?

No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.

The very same thing was once said about abortion. You should also take a look on what's on the agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.

At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.

cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.

I posted after that I think there should be carveouts for rape, incest and medical problems.

Ohhh so just naughty sluts should be punished? That’s okay with you?

So we need punishmentts for men too?