D.C. needs to get a lot more car friendly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

Hahahahaha, traffic experts lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

wanting to keep things the same is a policy position in itself. I’m not sure what you’re complaining about being not informed about.

When a major change is being done to a small residential street due to a complaint from one resident then the other residents of the street should be informed of what is being proposed in their name before it is implemented. If the residents support it or dont respond then fine, let it go through. But if they overwhelmingly oppose it then it shouldnt happen. This is actually what the policy was six months ago and is basic common sense and human decency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

wanting to keep things the same is a policy position in itself. I’m not sure what you’re complaining about being not informed about.

When a major change is being done to a small residential street due to a complaint from one resident then the other residents of the street should be informed of what is being proposed in their name before it is implemented. If the residents support it or dont respond then fine, let it go through. But if they overwhelmingly oppose it then it shouldnt happen. This is actually what the policy was six months ago and is basic common sense and human decency.

Do you have an example of this? You kinda keep saying things that haven’t happened

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

Hahahahaha, traffic experts lol.

Better than by fiat block to block.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

wanting to keep things the same is a policy position in itself. I’m not sure what you’re complaining about being not informed about.

When a major change is being done to a small residential street due to a complaint from one resident then the other residents of the street should be informed of what is being proposed in their name before it is implemented. If the residents support it or dont respond then fine, let it go through. But if they overwhelmingly oppose it then it shouldnt happen. This is actually what the policy was six months ago and is basic common sense and human decency.

Do you have an example of this? You kinda keep saying things that haven’t happened

You'll see this summer when they start to be installed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

I hate to break it to you, but opposing speed bumps on your street makes you a busybody.

Haha seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

And when it's approached from only one perspective as part of a backroom negoiation the outcome is inherently flawed. The former public notice requirement was designed in order to prevent that from happening. Yet some people seem to think it's a good idea to limit input, take away transparency, and prevent other perspectives from being considered. Likely because they know that their cause is not as widely supported as they claim, that their arguments are wildly exaggerated and that their claims will not hold up to greater scrutiny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

Tell me "nuh uh, you're the REAL busybody" however often you want and call me whatever names you want to help yourself sleep better at night, but this is why public works progress at a glacial pace, if at all, in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

Tell me "nuh uh, you're the REAL busybody" however often you want and call me whatever names you want to help yourself sleep better at night, but this is why public works progress at a glacial pace, if at all, in DC.

Keep telling yourself that you're doing this stuff for others even though they dont want it, didnt ask you to get involved, and you did it in secret.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

Tell me "nuh uh, you're the REAL busybody" however often you want and call me whatever names you want to help yourself sleep better at night, but this is why public works progress at a glacial pace, if at all, in DC.

Keep telling yourself that you're doing this stuff for others even though they dont want it, didnt ask you to get involved, and you did it in secret.

What a nonsensical response. I don't need to tell myself those things because I don't work for the DC government. I am a concerned citizen who is expressing frustration that there are selfish and arrogant people who act like petulant toddlers to impede efforts to make this city better and safer for all, and who use ANCs as a means to gum up the works in an attempt to preserve their neighborhood in amber. It sounds like I've touched a nerve; are you one of them, by chance?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

Tell me "nuh uh, you're the REAL busybody" however often you want and call me whatever names you want to help yourself sleep better at night, but this is why public works progress at a glacial pace, if at all, in DC.

Keep telling yourself that you're doing this stuff for others even though they dont want it, didnt ask you to get involved, and you did it in secret.

What a nonsensical response. I don't need to tell myself those things because I don't work for the DC government. I am a concerned citizen who is expressing frustration that there are selfish and arrogant people who act like petulant toddlers to impede efforts to make this city better and safer for all, and who use ANCs as a means to gum up the works in an attempt to preserve their neighborhood in amber. It sounds like I've touched a nerve; are you one of them, by chance?

No. I am not. I am someone that just accidentally found out that speed bumps were proposed and approved for my street without the awareness, request or support of anyone that lives on my street. I'd have no problem with it is was requested, proposed and discussed with people on my street. By the way, with the change in policy the ANCs have no role anymore.

Definition of busybody: someone who interjects themselves into the concerns of others. Anybody either in support or opposition to speed bumps on their own street is not a busybody.

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Anonymous wrote:If that means we can get to vision zero more expediently, then that is good news.

Cutting residents and ANCs out of the loop is a good thing for you? Do you even hear yourself?

I'm not the person you're replying to, but honestly, yes. ANCs have no real power, and it's far past time to start treating them as such. Do you have a problem with the way things are being done? Okay, take it up with MOCA or your councilmember's constituent services team. The system we have right now enables busybodies to stick their fingers in every pie. It's absurd, dysfunctional, and counterproductive.

I don't know what to tell you but the reality is the exact opposite. No one cares about the ANC, as you said they are utterly pointless in their current configuration. It's the residents that are being cut out of the loop. This empowers the busybodies to do even more because it now happens outside of the public purview.

You’re here arguing transpo policy on the 31st page of a thread and your complaining that other people are being too much of a busybody? Maybe you’re just not using your busybodying efficiently enough

Pardon? Im not proposing anything. Im not pushing anything. I dont want speed bumps on my street but don't care if you want them on your street. That's the exact opposite of being a busybody. What I want is for residents to be informed and have a say on measures proposed for their own blocks.

Why? The streets belong to the public, not to you. People who live on a street and want, or don't want speed humps shouldn't be able to trump what traffic experts suggest is best for that street. They can voice their opinion, sure, but that's about it.

They may be experts, but what is "best" for a street is inherently a subjective matter.

Sure, but the traffic engineers operate under a mandate to keep streets safe for all road users. Homeowners and renters have narrow parochial interests that vanishingly rarely extend beyond "but I like things the way they are now and I don't want them to change." This is an absurd position to take in a city, which by its very nature is constantly changing and evolving. It's ridiculous and immoral to use the current system of ANCs as a means to project power and turn one's small corner of DC into a personal fiefdom preserved in amber.

People die on our streets far too frequently. We know how to make them safer, but we can't because city agencies kowtow to ANCs and the ludicrous busybodies who fight tooth and nail against speed bumps because "they know what's best" for their street.

Lol, nice projection. Concerning yourself with matters that don't directly impact you, keeping things hidden from those directly impacted and telling other people what is in their best interest is the very worst sort of busybody. The worst part is the self-righteous justification that you know better.

Tell me "nuh uh, you're the REAL busybody" however often you want and call me whatever names you want to help yourself sleep better at night, but this is why public works progress at a glacial pace, if at all, in DC.

Keep telling yourself that you're doing this stuff for others even though they dont want it, didnt ask you to get involved, and you did it in secret.

What a nonsensical response. I don't need to tell myself those things because I don't work for the DC government. I am a concerned citizen who is expressing frustration that there are selfish and arrogant people who act like petulant toddlers to impede efforts to make this city better and safer for all, and who use ANCs as a means to gum up the works in an attempt to preserve their neighborhood in amber. It sounds like I've touched a nerve; are you one of them, by chance?

No. I am not. I am someone that just accidentally found out that speed bumps were proposed and approved for my street without the awareness, request or support of anyone that lives on my street. I'd have no problem with it is was requested, proposed and discussed with people on my street. By the way, with the change in policy the ANCs have no role anymore.

Definition of busybody: someone who interjects themselves into the concerns of others. Anybody either in support or opposition to speed bumps on their own street is not a busybody.

DP: you do not own your street. You own up to the end of your property line