ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Brave 2010 have talent particularly up top but they play such basic ugly kickball soccer. It’ll be eye opening for them when they age up into the MYS coaches. Build through the midfield? What’s that. Let’s just kick it up and hope our forwards can score!

[Anonymous]

2011’s?!? Someone post a veo so we can watch ourselves and see if this is true. Somehow that seems crazy

[Anonymous]

Why does everyone keep saying that MV will be coaching the 2010G FVU team next year? Isn't ML coaching next year?

[Anonymous]

ML will over for MV like he does for the current union moms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ML will ROLL over for MV like he does for the current union moms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Didn’t this so-called “train wreck team” just beat Union again in a friendly this week?

Sure with more than half their 11 on the field being 2011’s at times. The trainwreck that is Brave will go 0-3 at Playoffs. MV has an A license but get the ball to the 9 any way possible is his game plan.

So what was the excuse for the last league game they faced Union and beat them?!
Hey, but whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel secure and safe is all good!

This Union team has never been beaten fairly. There is always an excuse.

Have fun at the pool this summer. Seattle will be fun. Might go 0-3 but at least we’re there.

$5k min for this amazing experience. Seattle in June check can't think of a better place to spend vacation! $90 hoodies at ECNL store, yessir! Sit a soccer fields for 0-3 experience and realzing how overmatched you were before the ball was even kicked love it, and pool time at the hotel too. Shoot this does sound like folks are missing out, serious FOMO am i rite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Didn’t this so-called “train wreck team” just beat Union again in a friendly this week?

Sure with more than half their 11 on the field being 2011’s at times. The trainwreck that is Brave will go 0-3 at Playoffs. MV has an A license but get the ball to the 9 any way possible is his game plan.

So what was the excuse for the last league game they faced Union and beat them?!
Hey, but whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel secure and safe is all good!

This Union team has never been beaten fairly. There is always an excuse.

Have fun at the pool this summer. Seattle will be fun. Might go 0-3 but at least we’re there.

$5k min for this amazing experience. Seattle in June check can't think of a better place to spend vacation! $90 hoodies at ECNL store, yessir! Sit a soccer fields for 0-3 experience and realzing how overmatched you were before the ball was even kicked love it, and pool time at the hotel too. Shoot this does sound like folks are missing out, serious FOMO am i rite?

Go all the way to Seattle to play a kids game. LOL. Sounds like fun. You could have stayed somewhere in the DC area and play a scrimmage. Same experience from a soccer perspective

[Anonymous]

I find it absurd that parents are really debating, analyzing, criticizing girls who haven't even hit high school, let alone puberty. If you don't have daughter who is a junior or senior playing ECNL, know change is ahead. And I mean changes
physically, emotionally, interests, injury, high school sports, academically, relationships, friendships, burn out, mental health...
U13/U14 - a third of them or more will leave ECNL soccer because of the demands of school, pressure to perform, and ability to time management. This becomes a job sophomore/Jr year for these teens - many losing the love of the game because of unrealistic goals (parents projecting and kids brainwashed by ECNL social media).
Many changes ahead. To focus and be so critical of these KIDS is so short sided. Parents of younger kids really have no idea what's ahead. Stick to soccer club politics, that's at least interesting and good drama. Let these kids develop into whoever they will be without grown adults scrutinizing their every game and abilities - it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it absurd that parents are really debating, analyzing, criticizing girls who haven't even hit high school, let alone puberty. If you don't have daughter who is a junior or senior playing ECNL, know change is ahead. And I mean changes
physically, emotionally, interests, injury, high school sports, academically, relationships, friendships, burn out, mental health...
U13/U14 - a third of them or more will leave ECNL soccer because of the demands of school, pressure to perform, and ability to time management. This becomes a job sophomore/Jr year for these teens - many losing the love of the game because of unrealistic goals (parents projecting and kids brainwashed by ECNL social media).
Many changes ahead. To focus and be so critical of these KIDS is so short sided. Parents of younger kids really have no idea what's ahead. Stick to soccer club politics, that's at least interesting and good drama. Let these kids develop into whoever they will be without grown adults scrutinizing their every game and abilities - it doesn't matter.

Good to know but I feel tricked. This was the message given to us as we approached u13. You mean to say it all doesn’t matter again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it absurd that parents are really debating, analyzing, criticizing girls who haven't even hit high school, let alone puberty. If you don't have daughter who is a junior or senior playing ECNL, know change is ahead. And I mean changes
physically, emotionally, interests, injury, high school sports, academically, relationships, friendships, burn out, mental health...
U13/U14 - a third of them or more will leave ECNL soccer because of the demands of school, pressure to perform, and ability to time management. This becomes a job sophomore/Jr year for these teens - many losing the love of the game because of unrealistic goals (parents projecting and kids brainwashed by ECNL social media).
Many changes ahead. To focus and be so critical of these KIDS is so short sided. Parents of younger kids really have no idea what's ahead. Stick to soccer club politics, that's at least interesting and good drama. Let these kids develop into whoever they will be without grown adults scrutinizing their every game and abilities - it doesn't matter.

Good to know but I feel tricked. This was the message given to us as we approached u13. You mean to say it all doesn’t matter again?

I have senior player headed to college. She decided to attend a large college and play club soccer. Because college recruiting is brutal and only really successful for a handful. The trick is finding the right school, the right program, the right cost - because you will pay for college. There are no scholarships but for a handful. College prepares you up for life afterwards when you need a job and must support yourself. Soccer is an experience in college. - fun one, but still an experience. Real development appears at 15-17 years old in girls. Their peers catch up in growth. The biggest kid become average and that small kid - she goes 7 inches in a year. They get even stronger and bigger 18-22. Skill and commitment are flushed out. High school changes everything for some. Look for internal motivation of your player, not the external ones. That might be a better guide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Didn’t this so-called “train wreck team” just beat Union again in a friendly this week?

Sure with more than half their 11 on the field being 2011’s at times. The trainwreck that is Brave will go 0-3 at Playoffs. MV has an A license but get the ball to the 9 any way possible is his game plan.

So what was the excuse for the last league game they faced Union and beat them?!
Hey, but whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel secure and safe is all good!

This Union team has never been beaten fairly. There is always an excuse.

A few times, 100%. Why are we talking about a scrimmage where both teams were trying get out injury free again?

Because an insecure Union parent called out the BRAVE team as being a train wreck after watching this friendly, which BRAVE won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Didn’t this so-called “train wreck team” just beat Union again in a friendly this week?

Sure with more than half their 11 on the field being 2011’s at times. The trainwreck that is Brave will go 0-3 at Playoffs. MV has an A license but get the ball to the 9 any way possible is his game plan.

So what was the excuse for the last league game they faced Union and beat them?!
Hey, but whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel secure and safe is all good!

This Union team has never been beaten fairly. There is always an excuse.

True! And Union had no wins in the last 5 or so games played (including all losses in SC) .. what are the excuses for those?
Sounds like somebody on Union is just having a hard time accepting reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it absurd that parents are really debating, analyzing, criticizing girls who haven't even hit high school, let alone puberty. If you don't have daughter who is a junior or senior playing ECNL, know change is ahead. And I mean changes
physically, emotionally, interests, injury, high school sports, academically, relationships, friendships, burn out, mental health...
U13/U14 - a third of them or more will leave ECNL soccer because of the demands of school, pressure to perform, and ability to time management. This becomes a job sophomore/Jr year for these teens - many losing the love of the game because of unrealistic goals (parents projecting and kids brainwashed by ECNL social media).
Many changes ahead. To focus and be so critical of these KIDS is so short sided. Parents of younger kids really have no idea what's ahead. Stick to soccer club politics, that's at least interesting and good drama. Let these kids develop into whoever they will be without grown adults scrutinizing their every game and abilities - it doesn't matter.

Good to know but I feel tricked. This was the message given to us as we approached u13. You mean to say it all doesn’t matter again?

I have senior player headed to college. She decided to attend a large college and play club soccer. Because college recruiting is brutal and only really successful for a handful. The trick is finding the right school, the right program, the right cost - because you will pay for college. There are no scholarships but for a handful. College prepares you up for life afterwards when you need a job and must support yourself. Soccer is an experience in college. - fun one, but still an experience. Real development appears at 15-17 years old in girls. Their peers catch up in growth. The biggest kid become average and that small kid - she goes 7 inches in a year. They get even stronger and bigger 18-22. Skill and commitment are flushed out. High school changes everything for some. Look for internal motivation of your player, not the external ones. That might be a better guide.

Appreciate the sensible advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Brave 2010 have talent particularly up top but they play such basic ugly kickball soccer. It’ll be eye opening for them when they age up into the MYS coaches. Build through the midfield? What’s that. Let’s just kick it up and hope our forwards can score!

The Brave 2010 coaches (boys and girls) are far more interested in playing possession soccer than the McLean teams I've seen. They've likely learned more at Barcelona and Ajax than they did in the USSF A license course. If the teams are playing ugly kickball soccer, it's because they're not listening. Or they're just not that good. Or, to cite another DCUM thread, they're listening to parents instead of the coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls ECNL Final Standings

2007
Brave - 12
Union - 3

2008
Brave - 4
Union - 8

2009
Brave - 13
Union - 7

2010
Brave - 5
Union - 2

2011
Brave - 7
Union - 10 (not 9, typo in reported score)

Predictions for FVU based on all data available, trends, head to heads, clustering of teams in the same W-L range, etc. This is subjective feel free to argue differently but in the end conclusion is not much change:

2007 -- good luck for your future playing careers

2008 -- 2nd-4th range, three teams with eight wins so may be close in that range but CL playoffs expected. Heard this team is mostly Brave? Not much change to next year.

2009 -- 6th-9th range, same as this year. Heard this team is mostly Union? Not much change to next year.

2010 -- 2nd-4th range. Drama here, both Union and Brave are strong but some expect that FVU won't have the same mojo as Union this year. Hard to see anyone unseating Charlotte so 2nd place is likely the ceiling.

2011 -- 7th-9th range. Also drama here, heard more Union than Brave but Union finished very weakly this season. Hard to see anything above 7th.

During your analysis, did you have the opportunity to review any video? I finally got a chance to watch the Brave 2010 team, and it was quite surprising. Important note here, this is a direct shot at the COACH. The gameplay I saw resembled a SOAD mosh pit more than a structured sport. Then I find out the coach has an A license 😂 You cannot make this up.

Your conclusion that the Brave 2010 squad is strong sounds off. This has train wreck written all over it.

Didn’t this so-called “train wreck team” just beat Union again in a friendly this week?

Sure with more than half their 11 on the field being 2011’s at times. The trainwreck that is Brave will go 0-3 at Playoffs. MV has an A license but get the ball to the 9 any way possible is his game plan.

So what was the excuse for the last league game they faced Union and beat them?!
Hey, but whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel secure and safe is all good!

This Union team has never been beaten fairly. There is always an excuse.

True! And Union had no wins in the last 5 or so games played (including all losses in SC) .. what are the excuses for those?
Sounds like somebody on Union is just having a hard time accepting reality.

Against NVA it was the wind…..