The Hero’s summer skills academy is more for rec players and related to the old Hero’s program before it became a club team. Not a recruiting vehicle for the club teams. For Hero’s, you come to the tryout or a practice and if you can play - you have a shot. None of this nonsense with pay to play training sessions. |
So, Hero's/M&D closed system is better? It seem that their process not only requires a stand out player that is not already playing for a top team, but also has the connections to arrange for a workout/ try-out. And, don't respond that anyone can call up those programs and arrange for a work out for a player, because it is not easy to get their attention, understandably so. Shame on Capital for providing the opportunity for any player to get time playing in front of their coaches and current players over an extended period of time to potentially get an opportunity to play for their club. |
Have to disagree with this. Not saying it is always the case, but the experience has been opposite of what you posted. You can reach out to arrange for a practice or workout. If the player is good enough, they are on their radar and up to the player to continue to perform at tryouts. The coaches may also watch you play at tourneys prior to tryouts. This in fact can be done without connections or without playing on a club from Baltimore. It won’t be easy but it is possible. |
Hero’s and M&D hold tryouts - how is that a closed system? |
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Why all the negativity about Capital Clinics and HB? As many prior posters have noted, they weren't mandatory to make the club. The parents created that perception and the associated stress.
As an entrepreneur, who has met and worked with a number of outstanding young women entrepreneurs in this area, I have nothing but respect for Capital and HB owner running and growing her business. Using a strong, monopoly-like position for scarce services is just smart, not nefarious. There was no price gouging, they made it clear that players didn't have to come to each clinic, etc. The same kind of voltage was sent the Pride owner's way when she sought to diversify and grow her business, or when local rec tournaments in the Fall/Winter tried to increase their revenue. People have to direct their time and attention to economically-beneficial activity; these lacrosse-related businesses are not NGO's or public utilities that exist for our benefit. We need to support them. It's not like Robinson Sports/3Step/M&D/Hero's are mom and pops doing business the same way they did 15 years ago. Recommend you let it go. Change is hard, but it can also be described as progress. Also, for what it's worth, my DD felt that the clinic drills, and combine practice were good prep for tryout drills and combine runs. One tends to be better at something they have tried before. Evaluators rated the players on each station. So the clinics were relevant for performance, not some threshold entrance fee. |
"It won't be easy but it is possible" is effectively what the previous poster was saying. |
My experience is that business decisions in Pride aren't well thought out (like if I expand to HS teams, will I have enough coaches two have two teams from 3rd grade to 11th as an example). On the other hand, I think GJ is very methodical. Even when I disagree - it's still reasonable and understandable. KM is a hot mess. Charismatic but all over the place organizationally. |
Exactly! None of it is required. Many girls make it without doing any of the clinics or HB every year. |
Everyone blames Capital when both of these programs only recently decided to go into high school. Maybe that’s the problem? I’m all for girls playing as long as they desire but I think the blame that Capital gets is so odd when if anything these programs came into their territory not the other way around. |
| Maryland’s advantage is several competitive programs. The problem with Capital is that is has a monopoly on the HS lacrosse market. They can do whatever they want; charge for excessive clinics, make HB sessions appear necessary, not announce the coach until you are selected for the team etc. Families are expected to go along with what is offered and not question the process or fear being outcast. There is no option comparable to Capital in the area, so girls who aren’t selected are left scrambling to find a place to play if they haven’t met whatever criteria and moving target is used for team selection. Girls in Maryland are moving all the time to find the right fit and teams have to offer a product that is worth buying to keep them around. Competition is necessary for the program to feel the pressure to improve. |
Spot on |
Yet there are literally pages upon pages of this thread that discuss the importance of doing so and how it’s the only way to get on the coaches radar. I don’t blame Capital for profiting off the mass hysteria of parents but I prefer the MD system as it has been explained to me. That is all. |
Hero’s camp lasts six weeks over the summer priced individually. Each week is available for any player to attend. Many players go for more than one week to gain additional looks from forthcoming tryout evaluators. |
By this logic every camp by every club is a money grab. |
Not at all and you win the award for best straw argument. If you can’t figure out the differences between the MD approach and the Capital approach after reading all the previous posts than I have nothing else to say. |