So, where are your kids starting college next fall?

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Anonymous wrote:"Air conditioners not provided by the university". Wash & Lee. They have an allergy exception for window A/Cs. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs

Yes, by all means if you can’t afford a $200 air conditioner for the tiny minority of housing options that aren’t AC’ed look elsewhere. Sad that someone posted about their kid getting into this fine school and people can’t resist being mean. But hey, welcome to DCUM.

You're not allowed AC in the dorms unless you get allergy clearance. Would you like to talk instead about General Lee's horse?

T[b]he dorms are air conditioned. All of them.

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No they are not. "A/C not provided by the university". https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs#AC%20Install

Just fraternities and theme houses, not dorms. But keep beating this drum.

Uh, no they are not. We toured. The housing agreement specifically says you have to bring a box window-type. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/housing-agreement

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It's hard to know, really. But I'd bet that W&M is more self-selecting than UVA. Certainly far fewer boys apply there than girls. But many in state students who apply either to UVA or W&M (or both) often apply to JMU as a safety. If you're good enough for UVA to be on your radar, you're pretty much guaranteed admission to JMU.

There is this urban myth going around that W&M has become a school that only interests girls. Someone posted on another thread that it's on it's way to becoming a private all female college. Nothing could be farther from the truth. UVA's current undergraduate enrollment is 55% female vs. 58% at W&M. Is this a meaningful difference? And BTW, JMU is a very good school. Is there any question that Virginia overall has the finest state university system in the country? Imagine if you were stuck with SUNY Binghampton/Geneseo. Not ideal!

Well it's certainly better than Maryland and many other states, but c'mon, California schools hold 6 of the top 12 spots in US News Public Universities ranking, including #1 and #2. North Carolina, though not in that league, also has a phenomenal system.

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Anonymous wrote:"Air conditioners not provided by the university". Wash & Lee. They have an allergy exception for window A/Cs. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs

Yes, by all means if you can’t afford a $200 air conditioner for the tiny minority of housing options that aren’t AC’ed look elsewhere. Sad that someone posted about their kid getting into this fine school and people can’t resist being mean. But hey, welcome to DCUM.

You're not allowed AC in the dorms unless you get allergy clearance. Would you like to talk instead about General Lee's horse?

T[b]he dorms are air conditioned. All of them.

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No they are not. "A/C not provided by the university". https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs#AC%20Install

Just fraternities and theme houses, not dorms. But keep beating this drum.

Uh, no they are not. We toured. The housing agreement specifically says you have to bring a box window-type. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/housing-agreement

When did you tour? All dorms are centrally air conditioned, as they have been since fall 2015. Link refers to theme housing and prohibition on supplemental AC in the dorms. But hey, there are hundreds of colleges that have no or limited AC, so you have plenty to worry about.

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Anonymous wrote:"Air conditioners not provided by the university". Wash & Lee. They have an allergy exception for window A/Cs. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs

Yes, by all means if you can’t afford a $200 air conditioner for the tiny minority of housing options that aren’t AC’ed look elsewhere. Sad that someone posted about their kid getting into this fine school and people can’t resist being mean. But hey, welcome to DCUM.

You're not allowed AC in the dorms unless you get allergy clearance. Would you like to talk instead about General Lee's horse?

T[b]he dorms are air conditioned. All of them.

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No they are not. "A/C not provided by the university". https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/upper-division-housing/faqs/upper-division-housing-faqs#AC%20Install

Just fraternities and theme houses, not dorms. But keep beating this drum.

Uh, no they are not. We toured. The housing agreement specifically says you have to bring a box window-type. https://www.wlu.edu/student-life/residential-life/housing-agreement

When did you tour? All dorms are centrally air conditioned, as they have been since fall 2015. Link refers to theme housing and prohibition on supplemental AC in the dorms. But hey, there are hundreds of colleges that have no or limited AC, so you have plenty to worry about.

We toured two years ago. Dorms were not air conditioned but you could get a waiver if you had an allergy and doctor's note.

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Waiver for a box-style window A/C ^^^

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Anonymous wrote:Waiver for a box-style window A/C ^^^

Gotcha. No longer the case.

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It's hard to know, really. But I'd bet that W&M is more self-selecting than UVA. Certainly far fewer boys apply there than girls. But many in state students who apply either to UVA or W&M (or both) often apply to JMU as a safety. If you're good enough for UVA to be on your radar, you're pretty much guaranteed admission to JMU.


There is this urban myth going around that W&M has become a school that only interests girls. Someone posted on another thread that it's on it's way to becoming a private all female college. Nothing could be farther from the truth. UVA's current undergraduate enrollment is 55% female vs. 58% at W&M. Is this a meaningful difference? And BTW, JMU is a very good school. Is there any question that Virginia overall has the finest state university system in the country? Imagine if you were stuck with SUNY Binghampton/Geneseo. Not ideal!


Well it's certainly better than Maryland and many other states, but c'mon, California schools hold 6 of the top 12 spots in US News Public Universities ranking, including #1 and #2. North Carolina, though not in that league, also has a phenomenal system.

Yes! See if you agree with this analysis:

https://www.educatedquest.com/best-choice-state-universities/

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Yes! See if you agree with this analysis:

Or this:

http://www.thecollegesolution.com/colleges-with-the-best-and-worst-professors/

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Anonymous wrote:How about a separate thread for the VA schools? I know there are many VA parents on here and so I am sure there are many kids headed to VA schools but it is not very interesting or helpful for people who are not considering VA schools when you have two pages of posts about the differences between the VA schools
MD parent

Your mistake for living in Maryland instead of Virginia where the colleges are actually worth talking about . . .

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So sad people are calling each other idiots on a thread that’s supposed to celebrate kids going to college. My son is going to Alabama. I know it’s not W&M or UVA but he is thrilled. Congratulations to all.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad people are calling each other idiots on a thread that’s supposed to celebrate kids going to college. My son is going to Alabama. I know it’s not W&M or UVA but he is thrilled. Congratulations to all.

Congrats to your son! Alabama is a great school! Your son will love it! Roll Tide!

Signed, another SEC mom.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad people are calling each other idiots on a thread that’s supposed to celebrate kids going to college. My son is going to Alabama. I know it’s not W&M or UVA but he is thrilled. Congratulations to all.

Congrats to your son! Alabama is a great school! Your son will love it! Roll Tide!

Signed, another SEC mom.

Congrats. My DD is riding junior and Alabama is by far her top choice. She is a good student. Her comment after touring many schools, pretty much all ranked higher) was that she could really see herself find what her passion was at Alabama. Everyone seemed so welcoming and that was who she wants to be too. I hope she will qualify for merit, but pretty sure she will end up here.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad people are calling each other idiots on a thread that’s supposed to celebrate kids going to college. My son is going to Alabama. I know it’s not W&M or UVA but he is thrilled. Congratulations to all.

Congrats to your son! Alabama is a great school! Your son will love it! Roll Tide!

Signed, another SEC mom.

Congrats. My DD is riding junior and Alabama is by far her top choice. She is a good student. Her comment after touring many schools, pretty much all ranked higher) was that she could really see herself find what her passion was at Alabama. Everyone seemed so welcoming and that was who she wants to be too. I hope she will qualify for merit, but pretty sure she will end up here.

Thank you both! My son said the same - he felt comfortable there and everyone was so friendly. I'm sad he is going so far away but glad he found a place I think he will really like.

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Okay, I'll respond to the thread's original question: My D will be attending Davidson this fall.

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You're an idiot. I said "certainly far fewer boys apply than girls," and you responded by talking about another poster who said the school was going private and all girls. Of course that's not gonna happen. But UVA's female enrollment is greater than males only because nationally there are more women applying to college than men. UVA's admissions are gender blind; more women apply, more get in, more attend. Enrollment figures for W&M are 58/42 and not 70/30 only because the school actively discriminates against women applicants. Even its Dean of Admissions has stated that the school doesn't want to be known as the "College of Mary and Mary." https://www.vox.com/2015/2/17/8050259/discriminati...-problem-in-college-admissions

And no one is saying that all men care about nothing but football and STEM. They're just saying that, generally speaking, MORE man care about that stuff then women do. And this is indeed a fact. It's why STEM-focused colleges are often EASIER on women, for pete's sake.

Some folks like to argue just for the sake of arguing.

No. You're an idiot!

Just to set the record straight. W&M does not "actively discriminate" against women applicants. All public institutions are by law (Title IX) gender blind. This is what Dean Broaddus had to say in reference to his "Mary and Mary" comment:

Interestingly, in response to the U.S. News article and its journalistic spawn, which cited that our admit rate was higher for male applicants than for female applicants, we ran additional numbers on admitted students for the year in question. We discovered that among males admitted to William and Mary, their mid-fiftieth percentile range on the SAT was slightly higher than the range for admitted females. The women, on the other hand, had a higher average rank in class.

This was not an engineered outcome or even something we calculated until the charge of gender bias was leveled, and I’m not inclined to read too much into it.

But we might suspect that our holistic, individual review rewards what can appear to a reader as untapped potential in certain young men even as the same process discounts what appears to be stronger achievement in the classroom by young women.

Whether that’s heightened by a committee’s interest in gender balance, the modest rarity of males in a pool that’s majority female, or a committee’s consideration of other factors such as extracurricular involvements and writing samples, I’d hesitate to say with any certainty.

What I can say is that our committee admits only those it believes will be successful at William and Mary, and our high retention rates show that we have an excellent track record by that measure. At a larger level, here’s what I personally believe about the matter of gender and college admissions:

1) I stand by the assertion that institutions that market themselves as coed, and believe that the pedagogical experiences they provide rely in part on a coed student body, have a legitimate interest in enrolling a class that is not disproportionately male or female. On a residential campus intended to foster community among a diverse group of students that includes both men and women, this interest strikes me as entirely appropriate.

2) I believe that self-selectivity within applicant pools is an often overlooked factor to consider. In the data U.S. News reported in its article, MIT exhibited the largest relative discrepancy between the admit rates (in 2006) for men (10%) and women (22%). Now, should the public believe that MIT’s admissions office holds its women to lower standards for admission than those employed for men? Of course not. Women who apply to MIT are a highly self-selected and academically capable group despite being a comparatively small group within that particular applicant pool.

3) I believe that the difference in admit rates alone as a basis for comparing any two groups within an applicant pool is overly reductive, because when it comes to the calculation of admit rate, the quality of the numerator matters far more than the size of the denominator. If we admit everyone with the surname Allen in our pool and nobody with the surname Smith, it’s just as likely to mean that the Allens were stronger applicants or that the Allens comprised a smaller group of applicants more prone to statistical inflation, than it is to mean we have any bias against Smiths.

But beyond the larger percentage of women in the W&M applicant pool, which we all concede, what's your point? Are you saying something about the overall quality of two very different institutions? Are you saying UVA is a paragon of virtue here and W&M is cynically manipulating the admit rates to get the balance they want? For both these schools the self selection that truly matters is an academic one.

Realistically no institution that practices holistic admissions is going to be either gender neutral or truly need blind no matter what they say. amiright?

I am curious how public institutions can be truly "gender blind?" My DS applied to both UVA & W&M. He was waitlisted at UVA but admitted to W&. We honestly believe being a male helped him get into W&M - one of his best friends/classmates, who happens to be female and a legacy, was rejected by W&M. They compared statistics and they were extremely similar. Just reading his application, essays, and activities, anyone can figure out he was a male and not female: Eagle Scout, member of Boys Swim Team, attended Boys State. Does someone redact all of the gender references on the application?