Now That Iran Has Retaliated Against Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

It’s a retort to the PP’s list of perceived Iranian slights toward the US.

Well we have a few against them too, but let's hope cooler heads prevail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This previous one, pointing it out. But these threads are full of vile antisemitism and antisemitic tropes which shouldn’t be allowed to remain. The fact that it’s indiscernible to many people shows the sad state of affairs and what has become acceptable discourse in elite circles.

Luckily it’s transparent from the language that it’s the same one or two people sitting up at night miserable that Israel exists and writing diatribes- we can be confident, these sad people aren’t life’s winners.

This. It may not even be 1 or 2. There are more radical Islamist in the US than previously thought. Some posts may not even be coming from here. Indoctrination of those on the extreme left has proven easier than we could have ever imagined. Radical forms of Islam allow and promote lying and promoting to reach the agenda, an agenda even some of the defenders don't even understand and would not want. There is also a tremendous amount of ignorance about the history leading up to this attack by Iran. Israel's attack was a long time coming with all the attacks they endure from Iran's proxies. The people defending what is basically a terrorist regfime-Iran and instead using projection and claiming Israel are terrorists are either extremists themselves or they are just dangerously ignorant and they better hope the Iran's Islamic regime does not reach their ultimate goal. many of those who defend them fall into groups who would murdered or at the very least oppressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Iran hasn't attacked any US facilities or forces, so the US will not participate in any counter-attack against Iran should Israel choose to pursue that course. That seems prudent to me. Not sure Trump would be so restrained though.

Iran hasn't attacked the US facilities or forces.
But, they have made sure their proxies have.
You are clueless if you think Iran has no hand in the attacks we have suffered.

Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday in Jordan, while more than 40 other service members were injured following an uncrewed aerial system attack at a military base near the Syrian border. Those service members were in Jordan to support Operation Inherent Resolve, which is the U.S. and coalition mission to ensure the defeat of ISIS.

"In terms of attribution for the attack, we know this is an [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ]-backed militia," she said. "It has the footprints of Kataib Hezbollah. But not making a final assessment on that, our teams here are continuing to do the analysis. We know that Iran is behind it. And certainly as we've said before ... Iran continues to arm and equip these groups to launch these attacks, and we will certainly hold them responsible."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3659809/3-us-service-members-killed-others-injured-in-jordan-following-drone-attack/

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

Israel has no allies? Hmm, I wonder what Joe Biden is talking about then? Listen, I give the ayatollahs enough credit for brains to know that they would be unwise to step on Superman's cape.

Not allies, just paid sponsors thanks to AIPAC.

Whatever. Biden just reiterated in no uncertain terms the U.S.'s "ironclad" commitment to defending Israel's security.

Of course he'd say that - he has already cashed AIPAC's checks.

Only AIPAC's checks? Don't you really mean that he already cashed Jewish sourced checks. That he is owned and controlled by the Jews? Don't you mean that the Jews are trying to control everything? Don't you mean there is a Jewish conspiracy? Isn't that all what you mean?

Are there other foreign agents that are allowed to write checks directly to US politicians?

Foreign agents=Jews

NP. Plenty of American Jews have absolutely no part in lobbying these politicians.

Clowns like you are trying to drag all Jews into defending your favorite fascist ethnostate. It’s not working!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Iran hasn't attacked any US facilities or forces, so the US will not participate in any counter-attack against Iran should Israel choose to pursue that course. That seems prudent to me. Not sure Trump would be so restrained though.

Iran hasn't attacked the US facilities or forces.
But, they have made sure their proxies have.
You are clueless if you think Iran has no hand in the attacks we have suffered.

Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday in Jordan, while more than 40 other service members were injured following an uncrewed aerial system attack at a military base near the Syrian border. Those service members were in Jordan to support Operation Inherent Resolve, which is the U.S. and coalition mission to ensure the defeat of ISIS.

"In terms of attribution for the attack, we know this is an [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ]-backed militia," she said. "It has the footprints of Kataib Hezbollah. But not making a final assessment on that, our teams here are continuing to do the analysis. We know that Iran is behind it. And certainly as we've said before ... Iran continues to arm and equip these groups to launch these attacks, and we will certainly hold them responsible."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3659809/3-us-service-members-killed-others-injured-in-jordan-following-drone-attack/

Israel has attacked and killed Americans. Are you saying we should bomb Israel in retaliation? Americans do not support attacking Iran.
Time for Israel to fight its own wars by itself. Though not enough the Haredi are willing to fight for Israel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Iran hasn't attacked any US facilities or forces, so the US will not participate in any counter-attack against Iran should Israel choose to pursue that course. That seems prudent to me. Not sure Trump would be so restrained though.

Iran hasn't attacked the US facilities or forces.
But, they have made sure their proxies have.
You are clueless if you think Iran has no hand in the attacks we have suffered.

Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday in Jordan, while more than 40 other service members were injured following an uncrewed aerial system attack at a military base near the Syrian border. Those service members were in Jordan to support Operation Inherent Resolve, which is the U.S. and coalition mission to ensure the defeat of ISIS.

"In terms of attribution for the attack, we know this is an [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ]-backed militia," she said. "It has the footprints of Kataib Hezbollah. But not making a final assessment on that, our teams here are continuing to do the analysis. We know that Iran is behind it. And certainly as we've said before ... Iran continues to arm and equip these groups to launch these attacks, and we will certainly hold them responsible."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3659809/3-us-service-members-killed-others-injured-in-jordan-following-drone-attack/

Immediately PP makes it clear that anti-Iranian discourse echoes antisemitic discourse in that it not just points to a people’s atavistic problems, but also imagines the totality of evil coming from a single malign group. And as with antisemitism, the purpose of anti-Iranianism is to distract from the misdirection of a society’s own leaders. Sad!

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

Israel has no allies? Hmm, I wonder what Joe Biden is talking about then? Listen, I give the ayatollahs enough credit for brains to know that they would be unwise to step on Superman's cape.

Not allies, just paid sponsors thanks to AIPAC.

Whatever. Biden just reiterated in no uncertain terms the U.S.'s "ironclad" commitment to defending Israel's security.

Of course he'd say that - he has already cashed AIPAC's checks.

Only AIPAC's checks? Don't you really mean that he already cashed Jewish sourced checks. That he is owned and controlled by the Jews? Don't you mean that the Jews are trying to control everything? Don't you mean there is a Jewish conspiracy? Isn't that all what you mean?

Are there other foreign agents that are allowed to write checks directly to US politicians?

Foreign agents=Jews

NP. Plenty of American Jews have absolutely no part in lobbying these politicians.

Clowns like you are trying to drag all Jews into defending your favorite fascist ethnostate. It’s not working!

DP that is true. The majority of Americans Jews have different culture and values vs Israeli. Israel still coordinates and leads the lobbying. It would be criminally incompetence for Israel to not do so. The country is solely dependent on the US for its existence. AIPAC has 1600 lobbyists at Israel call. The mistake was letting local Israeli politicians push their right wing politics and attacks on democrats. Now Israel is a right/left issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran hasn't attacked any US facilities or forces, so the US will not participate in any counter-attack against Iran should Israel choose to pursue that course. That seems prudent to me. Not sure Trump would be so restrained though.

Iran hasn't attacked the US facilities or forces.
But, they have made sure their proxies have.
You are clueless if you think Iran has no hand in the attacks we have suffered.

Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday in Jordan, while more than 40 other service members were injured following an uncrewed aerial system attack at a military base near the Syrian border. Those service members were in Jordan to support Operation Inherent Resolve, which is the U.S. and coalition mission to ensure the defeat of ISIS.

"In terms of attribution for the attack, we know this is an [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ]-backed militia," she said. "It has the footprints of Kataib Hezbollah. But not making a final assessment on that, our teams here are continuing to do the analysis. We know that Iran is behind it. And certainly as we've said before ... Iran continues to arm and equip these groups to launch these attacks, and we will certainly hold them responsible."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3659809/3-us-service-members-killed-others-injured-in-jordan-following-drone-attack/

Immediately PP makes it clear that anti-Iranian discourse echoes antisemitic discourse in that it not just points to a people’s atavistic problems, but also imagines the totality of evil coming from a single malign group. And as with antisemitism, the purpose of anti-Iranianism is to distract from the misdirection of a society’s own leaders. Sad!

The IRGC has been designated as a terrorist regime. And, not just in the US.
Rightly so.

[Anonymous]

Time to test the b21 on iran

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

At least the women got to wear mini skirts and bare heads then if they wanted, and oh yeah, other freedoms and self determination too. The photos of women in pre theocractic Iran, Afghanistan etc. are heartbreaking. As an average Joelle, Id have taken the Shah any day!

[Anonymous]

Wonder if this Biden operative had a direct line to Terhan over the past few daya?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to test the b21 on iran

Stop with this stupid flexing, Iran has plenty of support from Russia and China, you don’t want the situation to escalate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

At least the women got to wear mini skirts and bare heads then if they wanted, and oh yeah, other freedoms and self determination too. The photos of women in pre theocractic Iran, Afghanistan etc. are heartbreaking. As an average Joelle, Id have taken the Shah any day!

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

You're kidding right? Just last night Israel intercepted and destroyed 300 drones and missiles launched by Iraq. Do you know what just one US aircraft carrier would do to Iraq's defenses? Gimme a break. (The only question would be how much the US chooses to limit the damage for one reason or another).

You are kidding right? It took Israel $1.5billion dollars, all of its air fleet, US, UK, French, German, Jordanian air fleets. US, UK, French navy support and air defense systems to down 400 cheap drones and 150 old tech missiles. Iran made direct hits to the top 3 Israeli military assets and mapped out Israel’s air defense system and it’s defense tactics. Israel is on a suicide mission.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time to test the b21 on iran

Stop with this stupid flexing, Iran has plenty of support from Russia and China, you don’t want the situation to escalate.

Plenty of support? Russia couldn't even help their CSTO ally Armenia out. Russia is greatly overextended. And China is too smart to go to war over Iran.