"No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

This — assuming trump even manages to be a candidate. There needs to be a solid Plan B Democrat candidate.

With Biden losing in the polls now to Trump, just imagine how far he'd be behind if Trump was forced out of the race due to his legal problems, and was replaced by a more fit candidate? Why is our Dem incumbent behind in the polls to someone as awful as Trump? What are we thinking?

46% of the country is locked in on Trump no matter who Dems nominate. There is no “unicorn” candidate. In fact, if he wasn’t president right now, people would be pointing to Biden as the kind of moderate candidate Democrats *should* be nominating.

From a policy standpoint sure, but are you forgetting how much of an effort it was last time to get the Democrats to not nominate Bernie Sanders, who has a zero percent chance at winning a national election? We also cannot be nominating octogenarians to be president regardless of their policies, full stop.

The Dems did not nominate Bernie and they won. They understand the compromise required to win. Can't say the same for the GOP

I don’t think they understand, they just got lucky. I have no doubt that if Biden wasn’t an incumbent we would be watching a Dem primary with some crazy-a$$ left wing candidate up against a more moderate candidate and the party would again be locked in an internal struggle over its direction.

Disagree. Biden was chosen specifically to defeat trump in the swing states. Luck was not involved.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

The hook to independents are:

-freedom of choice for our wives and daughters
-a growing economy
-a restoration of the allies and order we have known for the past 70 years
-a sense of normalcy in our politics
-low unemployment, more opportunity, higher GDP, more job creation

This isn't hard. The vote for Trump installs him as a dictator. That is what he is saying and we should believe him.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

He is adamantly and unabashedly pro-life. He also prioritized Maryland spending to benefit hist properties and those of his cronies. Vote accordingly.

Here’s the thing, sure he is pro-life, that is his personal viewpoint on the issue. I know many people (raised Catholic) who share that viewpoint. What matters to me is what he is going to do to impose that view point on the country. I have not seen anything to indicate he intends to impose a national ban or any other radical pro-life policy, so his being personally pro-life is not something that concerns me about him as a candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

This — assuming trump even manages to be a candidate. There needs to be a solid Plan B Democrat candidate.

With Biden losing in the polls now to Trump, just imagine how far he'd be behind if Trump was forced out of the race due to his legal problems, and was replaced by a more fit candidate? Why is our Dem incumbent behind in the polls to someone as awful as Trump? What are we thinking?

46% of the country is locked in on Trump no matter who Dems nominate. There is no “unicorn” candidate. In fact, if he wasn’t president right now, people would be pointing to Biden as the kind of moderate candidate Democrats *should* be nominating.

From a policy standpoint sure, but are you forgetting how much of an effort it was last time to get the Democrats to not nominate Bernie Sanders, who has a zero percent chance at winning a national election? We also cannot be nominating octogenarians to be president regardless of their policies, full stop.

The Dems did not nominate Bernie and they won. They understand the compromise required to win. Can't say the same for the GOP

I don’t think they understand, they just got lucky. I have no doubt that if Biden wasn’t an incumbent we would be watching a Dem primary with some crazy-a$$ left wing candidate up against a more moderate candidate and the party would again be locked in an internal struggle over its direction.

If Biden wasn't a candidate, there would be a race between Nesome, Whitmer, Bashear and probably one of the crazy left wingers you hypothosize.

Have you looked at the slate of candidates outside of Trump? One is worse than the next, they are all prohibitively pro-life and most of them have some form of corruption in their background.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

Really not sure she could have won in 2008. The defeat of roe is a wake up call as to how far women still have to go in this country. Men can be so insecure. Maybe the next generation of sons will not be so easily threatened and a woman can win the presidency.

To their credit, the Dem voters focused on defeating trump in the end in 2020 and nominated Biden to do it successfully.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

He is adamantly and unabashedly pro-life. He also prioritized Maryland spending to benefit hist properties and those of his cronies. Vote accordingly.

Here’s the thing, sure he is pro-life, that is his personal viewpoint on the issue. I know many people (raised Catholic) who share that viewpoint. What matters to me is what he is going to do to impose that view point on the country. I have not seen anything to indicate he intends to impose a national ban or any other radical pro-life policy, so his being personally pro-life is not something that concerns me about him as a candidate.

IOW, I will vote against my interests out of some fantasy left wing bogeyman.

Face it, Biden is a moderate. The country is in a much better place today than it was in January, 2021 when he took office. The country is also in a much better place relative to its peers around the world. And yet somehow, you want to take someone and project your abortion stance on to them out of some sort of leopards eating faces party believing your face won't be eaten.

Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

FWIW Hillary would have easily won the Democratic nomination in 2008 if she had voted against the Iraq War. But she voted for it and the rest is history. It was the Iraq War vote, not misogyny, that cost her the nomination.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

Really not sure she could have won in 2008. The defeat of roe is a wake up call as to how far women still have to go in this country. Men can be so insecure. Maybe the next generation of sons will not be so easily threatened and a woman can win the presidency.

To their credit, the Dem voters focused on defeating trump in the end in 2020 and nominated Biden to do it successfully.

I do believe the next generation of sons will be better. Looking at voting numbers for "the kids" and people under 30 - a fast growing electorate, they are tilting demonstrably to the left. These are people who have grown up with gun drills in schools watching leadership do nothing about it; grew up with direct impact of COVID on their education and employment, and watched Trumpism wreak havoc on our schools and healthcare systems; watched 1/6 happen and imperil their future. These are not voters the GOP is going to get back without a radical change to embrace a pro-choice, anti-assault weapon and pro-normalcy platform, which at the moment, favors the democrats.

Please explain how Trump or the GOP captures this vote, which is outpacing the "senior" vote significantly?

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

He is adamantly and unabashedly pro-life. He also prioritized Maryland spending to benefit hist properties and those of his cronies. Vote accordingly.

Here’s the thing, sure he is pro-life, that is his personal viewpoint on the issue. I know many people (raised Catholic) who share that viewpoint. What matters to me is what he is going to do to impose that view point on the country. I have not seen anything to indicate he intends to impose a national ban or any other radical pro-life policy, so his being personally pro-life is not something that concerns me about him as a candidate.

Wake up. A sustained and aggressive effort must be made to fight back to secure protections for women's rights. We need candidates that we actively pursue pro choice policies. That is the compromise position and somehow this battle must be fought again to give our future generations the protections we all held

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

Imagine what this country would be if AL GORE had been allowed to become president after being elected:

No 9/11 because he wouldn’t have been sleeping at the wheel;
No war in Afghanistan;
No war in Iraq;
A commitment to fighting climate change 20 years ago when it would have made a bigger difference.

Our lives would have been completely different.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

FWIW Hillary would have easily won the Democratic nomination in 2008 if she had voted against the Iraq War. But she voted for it and the rest is history. It was the Iraq War vote, not misogyny, that cost her the nomination.

Narrator: It was mysogyny.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

Imagine what this country would be if AL GORE had been allowed to become president after being elected:

No 9/11 because he wouldn’t have been sleeping at the wheel;
No war in Afghanistan;
No war in Iraq;
A commitment to fighting climate change 20 years ago when it would have made a bigger difference.

Our lives would have been completely different.

Not to mention the Supreme Court justices who would have been appointed! Roe v. Wade would still be the law of the land. Protections for individuals, workers, and the environment would be stronger.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

He is adamantly and unabashedly pro-life. He also prioritized Maryland spending to benefit hist properties and those of his cronies. Vote accordingly.

Here’s the thing, sure he is pro-life, that is his personal viewpoint on the issue. I know many people (raised Catholic) who share that viewpoint. What matters to me is what he is going to do to impose that view point on the country. I have not seen anything to indicate he intends to impose a national ban or any other radical pro-life policy, so his being personally pro-life is not something that concerns me about him as a candidate.

IOW, I will vote against my interests out of some fantasy left wing bogeyman.

Face it, Biden is a moderate. The country is in a much better place today than it was in January, 2021 when he took office. The country is also in a much better place relative to its peers around the world. And yet somehow, you want to take someone and project your abortion stance on to them out of some sort of leopards eating faces party believing your face won't be eaten.

Good luck with that.

I don’t understand anything you are trying to say here. But yes, I am aware Biden is moderate, and he is an improvement over Trump, but really you shouldn’t be lauded for merely being better than the worst. I just don’t find “Biden, he’s better than Trump” to be a compelling reason to vote for someone. Hence, my being an independent voter.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

Umkay. Let's see what the sentiment is a year from now when the fact that Biden isn't going to win finally becomes apparent to those living in la la land. It will be too late in the game to do anything about it and you folks who refused to see the obvious writing on the wall will be the ones to blame for a Trump victory. It's just ridiculous. Ignorance is what got Trump elected in 2016. Repeat.

The only way Trump wins is if No Labels takes too many "independent" voters. The fact is, if Hogan is the candidate, then it will be a pro-life vote. I highly doubt many independent voters will support that.

I am an independent voter and I do not see Larry Hogan as a “pro-life” vote. Like Nikki Haley, he knows this is a losing issue and that there is no pathway to a national ban and will leave it alone. If I am in a booth and my options are Trump, Biden and Hogan I am going to have a very hard time not casting a vote for Hogan even though intellectually I understand that takes away from Biden. I just can’t believe this is what the Democratic Party had trotted out again.

Intellectualize yourself to another trump term if you most but most voters will say hell no. Hold the nose and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. That is what our elections are a lot of the time.

You keep thinking that most voters will say hell no, but you’re thinking as someone firmly in the Biden camp. The only thing I have less desire for than another 4 years of Biden is Trump part 2. The fact that your hook to independents is hold your nose and vote Biden is just really not persuasive.

IMO it is very persuasive. I am not young and I would absolutely say the majority of elections involve voting against a candidate rather than being thrilled with the democratic choice. That is just the way it is.

There are exceptions like Obama. Boy do we all miss him. And for me Clinton because I am raising some girls and I was excited to have them witness our first woman leader. Ugggg. Imagine is she would have won, where this country could be now.

But on we go. Trump is a such a huge repellent to many millions and rightly so. He is so bad he drives voter turnout to come out and defeat him which is unusual.

Imagine if Clinton had been nominated in 2008 when she was in her political prime and had no Benghazi or email server baggage? Obama left to gain the more experience he needed and then in place to crush Trumpism before it could get off the ground. Oh wait, that would all make too much sense for voters to be able to figure out.

FWIW Hillary would have easily won the Democratic nomination in 2008 if she had voted against the Iraq War. But she voted for it and the rest is history. It was the Iraq War vote, not misogyny, that cost her the nomination.

Ok. But I don't know that she could have won the election.