Why Berkeley Is Number One

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


They have the best weather and beautiful surroundings, most students of color out of top 20 schools, most number of Nobel prize laureates and the most academic departments/programs ranked in the top 10 in the country along with low tuition rate than privates. They have lot to offer.


They also send the most number of grads to SV.

Silicon Valley hires more alumni from University of California, Berkeley, than any other school, according to a new analysis from online recruiting company https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-hires-uc-berkeley-grads-2017-5.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Berkeley is great if you are a graduate student or a professor doing research. But if you are an undergrad, not much, except you are contributing much of your tuition to support the staff for their research while you cram in the huge classrooms trying to make sense what the teaching instructors are saying in a rush. The thousand person classroom experiense is just not great.


Ain’t that that truth.


That ain't the truth - just a standard talking point against public universities.


Many professors are looking for undergraduate students to do research, so there is plenty opportunities for undergraduates too. But an average student is already exhausted from the course load, and it's very competitive environment. Many students are also too intimidated by the professors, who tend to be the legends in their fields, to take the opportunities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley is great if you are a graduate student or a professor doing research. But if you are an undergrad, not much, except you are contributing much of your tuition to support the staff for their research while you cram in the huge classrooms trying to make sense what the teaching instructors are saying in a rush. The thousand person classroom experiense is just not great.


Ain’t that that truth.


That ain't the truth - just a standard talking point against public universities.


Many professors are looking for undergraduate students to do research, so there is plenty opportunities for undergraduates too. But an average student is already exhausted from the course load, and it's very competitive environment. Many students are also too intimidated by the professors, who tend to be the legends in their fields, to take the opportunities.


Cal has a program to encourage undergraduate students to join on-going academic research projects on campus.
Anonymous
SLAC's are very likely to engage undergrads in research, because they have no one else to work in their labs (i.e. no competition from grad students and post-doctoral fellows).

My DC is working on her 4th peer reviewed publication already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


They have the best weather and beautiful surroundings, most students of color out of top 20 schools, most number of Nobel prize laureates and the most academic departments/programs ranked in the top 10 in the country along with low tuition rate than privates. They have lot to offer.


They also send the most number of grads to SV.

Silicon Valley hires more alumni from University of California, Berkeley, than any other school, according to a new analysis from online recruiting company https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-hires-uc-berkeley-grads-2017-5.


i'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that they have an undergraduate enrollment of 30,000 students. Nothing at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


They have the best weather and beautiful surroundings, most students of color out of top 20 schools, most number of Nobel prize laureates and the most academic departments/programs ranked in the top 10 in the country along with low tuition rate than privates. They have lot to offer.


They also send the most number of grads to SV.

Silicon Valley hires more alumni from University of California, Berkeley, than any other school, according to a new analysis from online recruiting company https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-hires-uc-berkeley-grads-2017-5.


i'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that they have an undergraduate enrollment of 30,000 students. Nothing at all.



Well, there are literally dozens and dozens of universities that enroll 30,000 undergraduate students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


They have the best weather and beautiful surroundings, most students of color out of top 20 schools, most number of Nobel prize laureates and the most academic departments/programs ranked in the top 10 in the country along with low tuition rate than privates. They have lot to offer.


They also send the most number of grads to SV.

Silicon Valley hires more alumni from University of California, Berkeley, than any other school, according to a new analysis from online recruiting company https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-hires-uc-berkeley-grads-2017-5.


i'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that they have an undergraduate enrollment of 30,000 students. Nothing at all.



Well, there are literally dozens and dozens of universities that enroll 30,000 undergraduate students.

Within an hour's drive of Silicon Valley?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does that mean Target is "better" than Nordstrom because it's cheaper?


Don't "enlightened" people want lot of diversity, inclusion and equity along with ton of poor people at elite schools?

This is like TJ having 35% FARMS kids, 15% blacks, 20% Hispanics, 30% whites and 35% Asian students with excellent outcomes.


They have the best weather and beautiful surroundings, most students of color out of top 20 schools, most number of Nobel prize laureates and the most academic departments/programs ranked in the top 10 in the country along with low tuition rate than privates. They have lot to offer.


They also send the most number of grads to SV.

Silicon Valley hires more alumni from University of California, Berkeley, than any other school, according to a new analysis from online recruiting company https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-hires-uc-berkeley-grads-2017-5.


i'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that they have an undergraduate enrollment of 30,000 students. Nothing at all.



Well, there are literally dozens and dozens of universities that enroll 30,000 undergraduate students.

Within an hour's drive of Silicon Valley?


So, you don't think the main reason is the fact that Berkeley has the number 1 ranked CS program in the country?
Anonymous
I have been to the city of Berkeley and didn't find the city, or really any of the Bay Area to be "stunning."

However, if my kid could get in there at the Virginia in-state price and wanted to go there, I'd proudly send them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Cornell is #13, Emory is #35. Someone is going to be pissed!


Dead
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have been to the city of Berkeley and didn't find the city, or really any of the Bay Area to be "stunning."

However, if my kid could get in there at the Virginia in-state price and wanted to go there, I'd proudly send them.


I would proudly send my kid to Berkeley at the OOS price if he could get in there.
Anonymous
I think Cal also sends the most graduates to the Peace Corp if you look at the past 20 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have been to the city of Berkeley and didn't find the city, or really any of the Bay Area to be "stunning."

However, if my kid could get in there at the Virginia in-state price and wanted to go there, I'd proudly send them.


I would proudly send my kid to Berkeley at the OOS price if he could get in there.

+1
Conversely, no one in CA would send their kid to UVA over Cal for most majors.

Nobody in their right mind would choose OOS UVA over OOS Cal for the most majors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UC Berkeley can’t practice affirmative action by law. There’s the answer to why UCB tops Harvard and the rest.


Since they can't legally, they have pursued getting rid of standardized tests so they can admit whoever they want -- affirmative action without leaving evidence
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