11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled

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Anonymous wrote:Well that's terrifying. We're going to have a nation of illiterate morons.

I mean… we already do, so not much change there.

+1

Between electing trump, alternative facts, and vaccine nonsense our nation was already full of morons. Not to mention, social promotion, low test scores when compared to other nations, the amount of illiterate people graduating high school, and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to generalize, but universally the kids I know that homeschooled all the way through early elementary (I.e., no school school until age 8+) have had emotional regulation issues. We socialize with a few homeschool coop groups and the way those kids play is really disconcerting. These are kids that go to free forest school, classes, Sunday school, etc. But man, it sort of blows my mind how the parents don’t blink an eye when they behave years younger than they are.

I prefer the 7th grader still engaging in imaginative play with friends over the 7th grader making TikTok videos dancing in swimsuits. Homeschooled kids do tend to be more sheltered. When my 7th grader started public school she was surprised by the amount of cursing and how much time people spent comparing and gossiping about each other.

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Anonymous wrote:And a lot of homeschooled students don't go to college

Citation, please...

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my kids (MS/HS) if we should try homeschool, and they were horrified. They enjoy being with their friends in school. They may not necessarily like the academic part, but they like the social part.

Well, let them know that homeschoolers have friends also.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well that's terrifying. We're going to have a nation of illiterate morons.

The majority of homeschooling families that I know are very thoughtful and intentional in the schooling of their children. Yes, I’ve seen a bad homeschooling result too, but the majority of the time I’ve seen it, it’s been done well.

Exactly. Homeschoolers that go to college do well on entrance exams and have a higher graduation rate.

Those that go to college. Many don't

Quick google search:

https://www.communitycollegereview.com/blog/is-community-college-the-best-option-for-homeschoolers
You may be surprised to learn that homeschoolers actually have a higher rate of attending college than any other group of children. Homeschooled children attend college at a rate of 66.7% while traditional public-school children only attend college at 57.5%. In fact, some of the country’s best colleges like Dartmouth, Yale, and UC Berkeley are recruiting and accepting homeschoolers at a high rate.

That's because they're are far fewer of them. so it doesnt take many of them going to college move the percentage up

You had a hard time in statistics class, didn't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

* doesn't equal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

True. But religious homeschoolers are the only ones teaching creationism and other nonsenses as science. It’s often religious communities that support banning books. Teaching evolution and letting kids have access to the library just isn’t an issue with secular homeschoolers in the same that it is with religious homeschoolers.

That’s reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

True. But religious homeschoolers are the only ones teaching creationism and other nonsenses as science. It’s often religious communities that support banning books. Teaching evolution and letting kids have access to the library just isn’t an issue with secular homeschoolers in the same that it is with religious homeschoolers.

That’s reality.

You do understand that evolution is still a theory right? And what difference does evolution vs creation make in the vast majority of careers anyway? I dont know of a single homeschooler who wants to ban books. In fact, most are pro- textbook and physical book vs the internet and ebooks of mass education.

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Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

True. But religious homeschoolers are the only ones teaching creationism and other nonsenses as science. It’s often religious communities that support banning books. Teaching evolution and letting kids have access to the library just isn’t an issue with secular homeschoolers in the same that it is with religious homeschoolers.

That’s reality.

A small subset of religious homeschoolers teach creationism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

True. But religious homeschoolers are the only ones teaching creationism and other nonsenses as science. It’s often religious communities that support banning books. Teaching evolution and letting kids have access to the library just isn’t an issue with secular homeschoolers in the same that it is with religious homeschoolers.

That’s reality.

A small subset of religious homeschoolers teach creationism.

Like a small subset of Utah practices polygamy? Yet they decriminalized it just last year.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-polygamy-utah-decriminalized-20200513-64vq5ptw4bf6bi2fkijpfrpchu-story.html

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Anonymous wrote:Trust the government to educate your children, they can always do it better.

https://www.k12dive.com/news/several-baltimore-schools-report-0-students-proficient-in-math-reading/443155/

Six Baltimore City schools — five high schools and one middle school — were found to have not a single student who scored proficient in math or reading in 2016, Fox45 News reports.
One student interviewed by the station said he believes students aren't passing the state assessments because the material on the tests is not covered in class.
Data shows that despite maintaining one of the country's highest per-pupil spending levels, a recent study out of Harvard University found Baltimore to have the lowest rate of mobility out of poverty in the country, a statistic tied directly to education as much as it is economic opportunity.
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Not to mention, no one homeschooled was ever smart, much less learned to read.

Surely a parent can't even be expected to teach their 5-7 year old to read.

My issue with homeschooling is that when the students or schools are failing it's not a big secret there are mechanisms in place to track school performance and student performance.

Parents on the other hand can let their children play Minecraft all day and call it unschooling and there's no oversight or consequences.

[Anonymous]

My sister homeschooled her kids. This basically meant she taught them things when it struck her fancy which wasn't often. Her 17 year old could read books my 6 year old had mastered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust the government to educate your children, they can always do it better.

https://www.k12dive.com/news/several-baltimore-schools-report-0-students-proficient-in-math-reading/443155/

Six Baltimore City schools — five high schools and one middle school — were found to have not a single student who scored proficient in math or reading in 2016, Fox45 News reports.
One student interviewed by the station said he believes students aren't passing the state assessments because the material on the tests is not covered in class.
Data shows that despite maintaining one of the country's highest per-pupil spending levels, a recent study out of Harvard University found Baltimore to have the lowest rate of mobility out of poverty in the country, a statistic tied directly to education as much as it is economic opportunity.
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Not to mention, no one homeschooled was ever smart, much less learned to read.

Surely a parent can't even be expected to teach their 5-7 year old to read.

My issue with homeschooling is that when the students or schools are failing it's not a big secret there are mechanisms in place to track school performance and student performance.

Parents on the other hand can let their children play Minecraft all day and call it unschooling and there's no oversight or consequences.

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/baltimore-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-g

"A shocking discovery came out of a Baltimore high school, where hundreds of students are failing. It’s a school where a student who passed three classes in four years, ranks near the top half of his class with a 0.13 grade point average."

How's that "oversight" and "consequences" working out?

And homeschoolers have to have their children tested yearly for progress (perhaps not under the religious categorization). The consequence for not meeting standards more than one year is that you have to put them in school. Which would be a great improvement if you lived in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.

Just FYI - secular = smart. Religious people can be smart also.

True. But religious homeschoolers are the only ones teaching creationism and other nonsenses as science. It’s often religious communities that support banning books. Teaching evolution and letting kids have access to the library just isn’t an issue with secular homeschoolers in the same that it is with religious homeschoolers.

That’s reality.

You do understand that evolution is still a theory right? And what difference does evolution vs creation make in the vast majority of careers anyway? I dont know of a single homeschooler who wants to ban books. In fact, most are pro- textbook and physical book vs the internet and ebooks of mass education.

NP here, and you do understand what a scientific theory is, right? And how this isn't really the knock on evolution you think it is.

Also, please tell me how many people in their lifetime don't ever rely on modern medicine...most of which wouldn't be possible if you reject basic foundational evidence that lead to the development of the theory of evolution (e.g. that certain mammals are good models for human physiology, that DNA encodes heredity, etc).