Is Chevy Chase & Bethesda MD old money? When did the WASPs have a white flight of those areas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic WASP. There are a few of us. My
Family actually was in the employ of the King of England. Henry to 8th. We are OG Wasps. I was born Catholic since my Dad married a Catholic. But I get street cred.

Cant fake it.

Sounds like you’re a poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic WASP. There are a few of us. My
Family actually was in the employ of the King of England. Henry to 8th. We are OG Wasps. I was born Catholic since my Dad married a Catholic. But I get street cred.

Cant fake it.

Sounds like you’re a poor.

1. Being a servant of Henry VIII does not make you old money. Almost everyone has ancestors who were servants of kings. Descending from nobility is more impressive.

2. By definition you cannot be a Catholic WASP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic WASP. There are a few of us. My
Family actually was in the employ of the King of England. Henry to 8th. We are OG Wasps. I was born Catholic since my Dad married a Catholic. But I get street cred.

Cant fake it.

Sounds like you’re a poor.

1. Being a servant of Henry VIII does not make you old money. Almost everyone has ancestors who were servants of kings. Descending from nobility is more impressive.

2. By definition you cannot be a Catholic WASP.

+1 Marjorie Taylor Greene isn’t even going to invite you to Anglo Saxon Heritage Tea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Bethesda (20816) in the 60s and 70s. Much of it was truly middle class. Not many two working lawyer families because there weren’t that many women lawyers then, especially in private firms. My family was not old money. My grandparents lived nearby in a small split level. They moved there in the 50s and my grandfather was a government worker who took the bus downtown (which was pretty common back then).

I think some people have very warped views of Bethesda.

Redlining will do that to a neighborhood.

PP here - my family is Jewish so I’m aware. I now live in a former redlined neighborhood in 20816.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic WASP. There are a few of us. My
Family actually was in the employ of the King of England. Henry to 8th. We are OG Wasps. I was born Catholic since my Dad married a Catholic. But I get street cred.

Cant fake it.

Sounds like you’re a poor.

1. Being a servant of Henry VIII does not make you old money. Almost everyone has ancestors who were servants of kings. Descending from nobility is more impressive.

2. By definition you cannot be a Catholic WASP.

There is some club where you have to be an original wasp to joint. My cousin who is a wasp said I can join. He traced our roots back to the day we were converted as folks in Kings employment got converted on day 1.

I am not rich. I did work on private banking and most folks here are not rich. I recall in 1997 pulling an account if a rich widow worth one billion. Today one Billion is not much but in 1997 was a lot. Her house was only worth at time around 400k. Rich is 1980s rich when the KKR guy became basically first person ever to make one billion in a single year. Can you imagine making 100 million a month in 1986!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Catholics live in the Blessed Sacrament parish, which is a good chunk of Chevy Chase on both sides of the DC line, and have for generations.

And that group loves WASP cos play!

UMC Catholics have been doing the WASP look for so long I don't think it counts as cos play anymore, does it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Catholic WASP. There are a few of us. My
Family actually was in the employ of the King of England. Henry to 8th. We are OG Wasps. I was born Catholic since my Dad married a Catholic. But I get street cred.

Cant fake it.

Sounds like you’re a poor.

1. Being a servant of Henry VIII does not make you old money. Almost everyone has ancestors who were servants of kings. Descending from nobility is more impressive.

2. By definition you cannot be a Catholic WASP.

There is some club where you have to be an original wasp to joint. My cousin who is a wasp said I can join. He traced our roots back to the day we were converted as folks in Kings employment got converted on day 1.

I am not rich. I did work on private banking and most folks here are not rich. I recall in 1997 pulling an account if a rich widow worth one billion. Today one Billion is not much but in 1997 was a lot. Her house was only worth at time around 400k. Rich is 1980s rich when the KKR guy became basically first person ever to make one billion in a single year. Can you imagine making 100 million a month in 1986!!!

Oh come on, that's a poor trolling attempt. There were 614 billionaires in the US in 2020. Yes, $1b is a lot today. According to Forbes there were 11 billionaires in 1997, although another source reports 60 in 1997. I'm guessing not many of them lived in the DMV. So your "rich widow" was certainly a rarity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously why so many class threads and WASP threads lately?

Yeah -- the obsession feels very 20th Century to me. And my WASP husband and his extended family would agree.

There are too many overpaid/overly wealthy yahoos about these days. That kind of overproduction produces a lot of nasty in-fighting, status obsessions, and in a place like DC, court games.

Not only is this very 20th century, it's like Jim Crow, statues of appalling slaveholders, and the SAR/DAR: all about the propaganda efforts of the 30 or so years on either side of 1900 when powerful scoundrels created our awful empire. Unfortunately, the only attempts to reassess this period so far are about the weakest parts of its legacy, the statues, but hopefully a truer picture will emerge and we can over this silliness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ha, i deserve that. my point is i feel like the "generally wealthy" class of people has gotten much larger than some "his grandpa was an astor/vanderbilt/whatever" group of WASPs that it seems like "old money" isn't really a meaningful thing

but maybe I just don't traffic in the right circles

To the extent that those folks exist in DC, they do tend to live in CC or Bethesda. They do exist, typically working at nonprofit directors or political appointees for not a ton of money, but, hey, they don't need money. Exquisite educational pedigrees, lovely homes, friends in all the "right" circles, and in high prestige/low pay jobs.

The used to have estates on Foxhall road. Perhaps we hear great grandkids have moved out to the burbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ha, i deserve that. my point is i feel like the "generally wealthy" class of people has gotten much larger than some "his grandpa was an astor/vanderbilt/whatever" group of WASPs that it seems like "old money" isn't really a meaningful thing

but maybe I just don't traffic in the right circles

To the extent that those folks exist in DC, they do tend to live in CC or Bethesda. They do exist, typically working at nonprofit directors or political appointees for not a ton of money, but, hey, they don't need money. Exquisite educational pedigrees, lovely homes, friends in all the "right" circles, and in high prestige/low pay jobs.

The used to have estates on Foxhall road. Perhaps we hear great grandkids have moved out to the burbs.

I know folks who went Foxhall->Bethesda-> Chevy Chase. People live in places for a lot of reasons.

[Anonymous]

Lol dcum obsessed with wasps

[Anonymous]

Op I am a real wasp — Mayflower descendant and all that. But guess what? NO ONE CARES. My selfish, alcoholic grandfather was a complete idiot with money and lost everything....the boats, the houses, the trust fund, the huge summer house on Long Island. No one at all cares about my background because my family no longer has piles of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op I am a real wasp — Mayflower descendant and all that. But guess what? NO ONE CARES. My selfish, alcoholic grandfather was a complete idiot with money and lost everything....the boats, the houses, the trust fund, the huge summer house on Long Island. No one at all cares about my background because my family no longer has piles of money.

Fake it 'til you make it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op I am a real wasp — Mayflower descendant and all that. But guess what? NO ONE CARES. My selfish, alcoholic grandfather was a complete idiot with money and lost everything....the boats, the houses, the trust fund, the huge summer house on Long Island. No one at all cares about my background because my family no longer has piles of money.

The WASPy side (my grandmother's side) of my family lost all their money in the depression. The rest of my family immigrated to the US in the early 20th century and were more successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Catholics live in the Blessed Sacrament parish, which is a good chunk of Chevy Chase on both sides of the DC line, and have for generations.

And that group loves WASP cos play!

UMC Catholics have been doing the WASP look for so long I don't think it counts as cos play anymore, does it?

Yeah, WASP is more of a mindset than a rigid definition.

I come from the WASPiest family that ever WASPed (there are not one but two towns in the DC area named after my direct ancestors, you can see my family name on plaques all around DC, and my family sat on every board and belonged to every club at one point or another) but as far as I'm concerned as long as you are overly concerned with social status, enjoy casual alcoholism and racism, (usually at the same time) never ever discuss anything emotional or substantial with your parents, spend more money looking like you do good "for the community" than actually doing good for the community, have a strange obsession with early American furniture, and seriously think you're progressive because your beliefs have finally caught up with actual progressives from the late 1960s, then as far as I'm concerned you're an honorary WASP.