APS concurrent for grades 3-5

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I'm curious how hybrid parents will respond to this. Some really just need their kids in the classroom. I wonder if this will still be worth it, or if they made that choice based on a presumption that it would be a bit more like "real" school.

Those parents have been engaged in magical thinking. Even before concurrent was announced, this isn’t going to be like the before times. Not for a long while, not until kids are vaccinated, too.

We chose virtual, but friends who chose hybrid figured at least the teacher would be standing at the front of the class, kids may be masked and distanced but able to look at each other and have an in-class discussion. That's what I mean. Different but closer to normal than virtual. I'm pretty certain no hybrid-selecting parent envisioned this.

Hybrid 3rd parent here - you are exactly right. I never would have chosen hybrid for this arrangement. It makes zero sense for anyone.

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Wait so are teachers doing hybrid 2 days a week or 4?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so are teachers doing hybrid 2 days a week or 4?

Teachers teach 4 days per week. Teacher probably will be in the classroom. Teachers with ADA exemptions will teach via DL and an aide will be in the classroom to maintain order.
DL kids stay DL 4 days per week.
Hybrid kids go to school 2x/wk and learn via DL 2x/wk.

That part hasn't changed. What has changed is that those three groups of kids will all be taught by the same teacher at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:Here what was posted on AEM: I'd like to point out to parents that the real point of this email is not the early release day on 2/5, but the application of the concurrent model to 3rd to 5th graders. Some here might be interested what Bridget Loft had to say on this topic back in August when she was asked by Dr. Barbara Kanninen whether middle schoolers would be learning in the concurrent model. Loft said: "But I want to reiterate, we were very explicit, this could only be a high school model, because our high school students have developed in their skills sets and their executive functioning. While our middle school students are exactly where they need to be, and need that additional support of having a teacher in front of them." And now Loft is applying the concurrent model to 3rd graders?

Full exchange below. Here's the link to the video - https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/, discussion on this topic starts at 2:05.

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Barbara Kanninen: Dr. Duran, we did talk, and I noticed in your presentation, you did clarify, about the difference in approaches between high school; and middle school. And I would like for you to elaborate a bit about what middle school will look like for those students. Middle school., traditionally, not just in this environment, is often the level we forget about sometimes. … Those are of course three very important years in our students' lives. If you could please elaborate a bit on what that model will look like.

Bridget Loft: … To speak to your question, Dr. Kanninen, our middle school and our high school principals, and our T&L staff, were really explicit in designing two different models to speak exactly to what you pointed out that our middle school students – ages 11 to 14 – are developing in their abstract thinking, and their executive functioning, and need a great deal of time and attention and work with their teachers to help build those skills. And so, our middle school principals and our T&L staff have landed on a model in which, to the best of our ability, we’ve matched our preferred model that our middle school families have identified to the preferred model of our staff members. That would mean that while we are all starting distance learning, when we do transition to the hybrid model, students whose families have identified that they will transition into the in person hybrid model will be working with teachers who will be in person in the hybrid model. And also students whose families have identified that their children will continue in the distance learning model will likely be working with teachers who are in the distance learning model as well. When we talk about large scale planning, it’s not always going to match up, but that’s the philosophy and practice that our middle school docs, who have been working tirelessly to build the master schedule. This contrasts with the high school model. And that’s a recognition of several factors: (1) a recognition that our high schoolers have more sophisticated executive functioning skills, and (2) have had a lot of practice in being able to practice impulse control, and work with less direction. And, in addition to that, the understanding that, each of our high schools offers up to 40 to 50, what we call, singleton classes, which means that is the lone class offered in that school. So that might be something like, symphonic band. There’s only one in each of our high schools. And so it becomes incredibly challenging to try to match family’s preferences for a model and our singleton teachers’ preferences for a model. So, for high school only, and let’s remember everyone is starting distance learning, students have been assigned to their teacher, with whom they will stay for the entire year, and so that may mean when we go back that that teacher may have students who are reporting in person in the hybrid model, and students who will remain in distance learning. And, it could be that that teacher has also chosen to teach via distance learning. And, if that is the case, then students will be learning, synchronously with their teacher, they will continue to have an engaging experience, using their MacBook Airs, and there will be an adult who is present in those classrooms. But I want to reiterate, we were very explicit, this could only be a high school model, because our high school students have developed in their skills sets and their executive functioning. While our middle school students are exactly where they need to be, and need that additional support of having a teacher in front of them.

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If the school board doesn’t step in I am leaving Arlington. It has totally gone down the toilet. Forget recalling the school board, Bridget loft needs to go. She’s the same person that brought us no new instruction last spring.

Middle school parent who remembers that exchange well. I was horrified when they switched MIDDLE SCHOOL to this model. But I’ve just given up. I picked DL for mine because I couldn’t see this worth going into school for. But I think it is terrible for DL kids too who have to learn via video through a mask. It’s APS fault for not dividing these kids into DL and hybrid cohorts in the Fall. What are they thinking??

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Anonymous wrote:Middle school parent who remembers that exchange well. I was horrified when they switched MIDDLE SCHOOL to this model. But I’ve just given up. I picked DL for mine because I couldn’t see this worth going into school for. But I think it is terrible for DL kids too who have to learn via video through a mask. It’s APS fault for not dividing these kids into DL and hybrid cohorts in the Fall. What are they thinking??

At least for fourth and fifth grade I'm guessing it's a combo of not wanting to try and re-do homeroom groups. Plus in those grades kids have multiple teachers. You'd now need each teacher to teach all subjects.

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The letter says
“ All MPSA students will participate in the original hybrid/in-person model. “

So NONE of the Montessori kids will be concurrent.

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APS teacher here. What can the school board do? There is not staffing to do half and half hybrid with assistants for all the classes. There isn't anyone to monitor the 2nd room. There isn't enough teachers to staff hybrid and make a separate 1-2 hybrid classrooms per grade level. There isn't staffing for it. Not enough. Can't make people out of thin air to run this model. My principal said our school barely has the staffing to make it work in Prek-2.

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sorry, staffing to make 1-2 virtual only classes per grade level in 3-5.

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Anonymous wrote:The letter says
“ All MPSA students will participate in the original hybrid/in-person model. “

So NONE of the Montessori kids will be concurrent.

I believe this is because Montessori classes have an assistant already in all the classes which are multiage. So they already have the staffing for 2 adults per classroom group.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. What can the school board do? There is not staffing to do half and half hybrid with assistants for all the classes. There isn't anyone to monitor the 2nd room. There isn't enough teachers to staff hybrid and make a separate 1-2 hybrid classrooms per grade level. There isn't staffing for it. Not enough. Can't make people out of thin air to run this model. My principal said our school barely has the staffing to make it work in Prek-2.

Then why did they ever propose it?

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Maybe they didn’t realize how many parents would select hybrid. I honestly don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. What can the school board do? There is not staffing to do half and half hybrid with assistants for all the classes. There isn't anyone to monitor the 2nd room. There isn't enough teachers to staff hybrid and make a separate 1-2 hybrid classrooms per grade level. There isn't staffing for it. Not enough. Can't make people out of thin air to run this model. My principal said our school barely has the staffing to make it work in Prek-2.

That's why this is awful because it's now on you the teacher to ensure that every child on your class list receives an appropriate education. I don't envy you in this position that you now must ensure that kids in the classroom and on the screen are treated equally in terms of the attention you give, and of course also continue to differentiate appropriately among the kids who qualify for spec ed or GT or other services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. What can the school board do? There is not staffing to do half and half hybrid with assistants for all the classes. There isn't anyone to monitor the 2nd room. There isn't enough teachers to staff hybrid and make a separate 1-2 hybrid classrooms per grade level. There isn't staffing for it. Not enough. Can't make people out of thin air to run this model. My principal said our school barely has the staffing to make it work in Prek-2.

Yeah, honestly I understand. Just frustrated that everything is constantly changing. I don't think they ever should have proposed it in the first place since it was pretty obvious they wouldn't have the staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. What can the school board do? There is not staffing to do half and half hybrid with assistants for all the classes. There isn't anyone to monitor the 2nd room. There isn't enough teachers to staff hybrid and make a separate 1-2 hybrid classrooms per grade level. There isn't staffing for it. Not enough. Can't make people out of thin air to run this model. My principal said our school barely has the staffing to make it work in Prek-2.

Ok. But maybe they shouldn’t have offered it. And they should let parents pick again?

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Just when you think APS couldn't get any worse.

This is just a bad plan all around. I no longer have an APS elem kid but this is just horrible for all involved. The entire school board lacks common sense and needs to go.