Applications are way up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boston College ED came out yesterday and only 42% of those admitted submitted scores.

I don't suppose anyone knows what portion of applicants submitted scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for an org that helps low-income students apply to college. Our students are really dispirited and applications will likely be down overall. Typically, our high academic achievers would complete an average of 10 applications, but it's been hard to convince students to apply to our usual mix of lesser known/strong financial aid schools.

What a shame, especially in this test-optional environment. Do they include a large proportion of URMs, or not really?

The vast majority of our students are Black, Latinx, and Southeast Asian. Lately, most of our "white" students have been refugees from Syria and Iraq. These demographics reflect the broader demographics of our local school systems. We do have a good record of overmatching students, and they tend to do very well at those reach schools. We will just have to see how this year goes. We do push, but we also need to be human and acknowledge if a young person has lost 3 family members to COVID and they are worried about getting evicted in January, maybe they do 4 college applications instead of 10, and it will be okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools are extended their ED and EA deadlines so I don't think that's a good sign for them.

+1 Yes, 2 of our daughter's schools extended their deadlines and we interpreted that as lower than expected or hoped for numbers of applications. These were Top 25 schools so we were a little surprised.

That may be a good sign for your daughter, if these schools are targets!

What schools?

[Anonymous]

Due to uncertainty. Schools will lean heavily on ED so it the extra apps don't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for an org that helps low-income students apply to college. Our students are really dispirited and applications will likely be down overall. Typically, our high academic achievers would complete an average of 10 applications, but it's been hard to convince students to apply to our usual mix of lesser known/strong financial aid schools.

What a shame, especially in this test-optional environment. Do they include a large proportion of URMs, or not really?

The vast majority of our students are Black, Latinx, and Southeast Asian. Lately, most of our "white" students have been refugees from Syria and Iraq. These demographics reflect the broader demographics of our local school systems. We do have a good record of overmatching students, and they tend to do very well at those reach schools. We will just have to see how this year goes. We do push, but we also need to be human and acknowledge if a young person has lost 3 family members to COVID and they are worried about getting evicted in January, maybe they do 4 college applications instead of 10, and it will be okay.

Just wanted to say I’m glad there are organizations like yours, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for an org that helps low-income students apply to college. Our students are really dispirited and applications will likely be down overall. Typically, our high academic achievers would complete an average of 10 applications, but it's been hard to convince students to apply to our usual mix of lesser known/strong financial aid schools.

What a shame, especially in this test-optional environment. Do they include a large proportion of URMs, or not really?

The vast majority of our students are Black, Latinx, and Southeast Asian. Lately, most of our "white" students have been refugees from Syria and Iraq. These demographics reflect the broader demographics of our local school systems. We do have a good record of overmatching students, and they tend to do very well at those reach schools. We will just have to see how this year goes. We do push, but we also need to be human and acknowledge if a young person has lost 3 family members to COVID and they are worried about getting evicted in January, maybe they do 4 college applications instead of 10, and it will be okay.

Latinos don't call themselves "Latinx".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for an org that helps low-income students apply to college. Our students are really dispirited and applications will likely be down overall. Typically, our high academic achievers would complete an average of 10 applications, but it's been hard to convince students to apply to our usual mix of lesser known/strong financial aid schools.

What a shame, especially in this test-optional environment. Do they include a large proportion of URMs, or not really?

The vast majority of our students are Black, Latinx, and Southeast Asian. Lately, most of our "white" students have been refugees from Syria and Iraq. These demographics reflect the broader demographics of our local school systems. We do have a good record of overmatching students, and they tend to do very well at those reach schools. We will just have to see how this year goes. We do push, but we also need to be human and acknowledge if a young person has lost 3 family members to COVID and they are worried about getting evicted in January, maybe they do 4 college applications instead of 10, and it will be okay.

Just wanted to say I’m glad there are organizations like yours, PP.

Me too. Thank you for helping these students navigate all of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work for an org that helps low-income students apply to college. Our students are really dispirited and applications will likely be down overall. Typically, our high academic achievers would complete an average of 10 applications, but it's been hard to convince students to apply to our usual mix of lesser known/strong financial aid schools.

What a shame, especially in this test-optional environment. Do they include a large proportion of URMs, or not really?

The vast majority of our students are Black, Latinx, and Southeast Asian. Lately, most of our "white" students have been refugees from Syria and Iraq. These demographics reflect the broader demographics of our local school systems. We do have a good record of overmatching students, and they tend to do very well at those reach schools. We will just have to see how this year goes. We do push, but we also need to be human and acknowledge if a young person has lost 3 family members to COVID and they are worried about getting evicted in January, maybe they do 4 college applications instead of 10, and it will be okay.

Latinos don't call themselves "Latinx".

Glad you know all Latinos. We are an org with a lot of young, queer and non-binary people in leadership and among the youth we serve so we use Latinx.

[Anonymous]

Misleading thread title. Maybe up at MIT but likely down most places. I’ve been through this with three prior kids and this year is the first time they’ve been bombarded with ED and EA extension emails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools are extended their ED and EA deadlines so I don't think that's a good sign for them.

+1 Yes, 2 of our daughter's schools extended their deadlines and we interpreted that as lower than expected or hoped for numbers of applications. These were Top 25 schools so we were a little surprised.

That may be a good sign for your daughter, if these schools are targets!

That's our hope!!! Fingers and toes all crossed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Misleading thread title. Maybe up at MIT but likely down most places. I’ve been through this with three prior kids and this year is the first time they’ve been bombarded with ED and EA extension emails.

it doesn’t help anyone to suggest this without data, particularly when you have seen evidence to the contrary. Your feels are not facts.

[Anonymous]

Full pay kids that ED with halfway decent stats will have the advantage. Schools are hurting financially so will want money and certainty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Misleading thread title. Maybe up at MIT but likely down most places. I’ve been through this with three prior kids and this year is the first time they’ve been bombarded with ED and EA extension emails.

it doesn’t help anyone to suggest this without data, particularly when you have seen evidence to the contrary. Your feels are not facts.

Not PP, but Common App's numbers were reported last month as being down across the board. That's probably what PP was referring to. https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2020/11/16/college-applications-are-decreasing

Early apps at highly-selective colleges may be up, though that is likely the effect of test-optional policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Misleading thread title. Maybe up at MIT but likely down most places. I’ve been through this with three prior kids and this year is the first time they’ve been bombarded with ED and EA extension emails.

it doesn’t help anyone to suggest this without data, particularly when you have seen evidence to the contrary. Your feels are not facts.

So we agree, as OP made an assertion without data.