Covid at UVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where’s the sanctimonious UVA parent who claimed UVA students have more “character” than students at other schools and so wouldn’t be irresponsibly partying and spreading COVID? Please stand up and admit how wrong you were. We’ll wait.

There hasn't been one. That was Notre Dame mom trying to defend ND's decision to start classes early (football????) and leave by Thanksgiving. That didn't work so well. https://www.chronicle.com/article/more-colleges-are-responding-to-covid-19-surges-with-2-week-quarantines-do-they-work. Many have had to send everyone home, which protects the school but serves to spread the virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol
A week and a half ago everyone on here was saying the UVA kids were smart and wouldn’t spread covid. Look who’s the same as VT and JMU now.

Someone tracks the daily status from the college dashboards and makes estimates of the percentage that are positive from the testing data. For UVA, it is increasing, but certainly not to the level of Radford, JMU, and VT yet. UVA is estimated at 4.2% of population positive vs. 33% at Radford, 28% at JMU, and 11.2% at VT. The other Virginia schools seem to be doing better at this point.

https://www.vacovidstatus.com/2020/09/daily-status-sept_19.html

Yes, UVA's is one of the lowest in the nation, which is why I don't understand OP's post. Look at JMU if you want to see a real mess.

[Anonymous]

Dera OP, you will have a better sense of what is going on with colleges and universities in the U.S. if you read the following threads in this forum:


Colleges that are reopening and shutting down

Is Notre Dame Screwing up?


There are other threads as well but those two come immediately to mind. If you read those and/or the Chronicle of Higher Education, you will see that UVA has done a very good job of balancing a need to move forward for the students with a hybrid model without a serious infection rate (yet).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where’s the sanctimonious UVA parent who claimed UVA students have more “character” than students at other schools and so wouldn’t be irresponsibly partying and spreading COVID? Please stand up and admit how wrong you were. We’ll wait.

There hasn't been one. That was Notre Dame mom trying to defend ND's decision to start classes early (football????) and leave by Thanksgiving. That didn't work so well. https://www.chronicle.com/article/more-colleges-are-responding-to-covid-19-surges-with-2-week-quarantines-do-they-work. Many have had to send everyone home, which protects the school but serves to spread the virus.

Actually Notre Dame is doing quite well. Daily cases are low (much lower than UVA) and positivity rate is 1% vs UVA 9%. The campus has set up resort like spaces for the kids to enjoy outdoors like fire tables, entertainment, lawn games, fireworks, etc. Consequently, they have managed to keep students engaged and have flattened the curve. They will likely make it through the end of the semester. This administration and the kids are smart, and they figured out how to fix the problem. UVA should be able to as well, but they need to take action.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-university-of-wisconsin-notre-dame-20200916-querg3libzhhjajp7vppa7f6im-story.html

https://here.nd.edu/our-approach/dashboard/

https://here.nd.edu/facilities-environment/student-gathering-spaces/library-lawn/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol
A week and a half ago everyone on here was saying the UVA kids were smart and wouldn’t spread covid. Look who’s the same as VT and JMU now.

Someone tracks the daily status from the college dashboards and makes estimates of the percentage that are positive from the testing data. For UVA, it is increasing, but certainly not to the level of Radford, JMU, and VT yet. UVA is estimated at 4.2% of population positive vs. 33% at Radford, 28% at JMU, and 11.2% at VT. The other Virginia schools seem to be doing better at this point.

https://www.vacovidstatus.com/2020/09/daily-status-sept_19.html

Yes, UVA's is one of the lowest in the nation, which is why I don't understand OP's post. Look at JMU if you want to see a real mess.

In Virginia, UVA is the third worst in terms of current levels.

JMU -> VT -> UVA.

Radford was ahead of all of them, but either everyone got sick or they were able to get it under control. (at its worse, Radford at two weeks where nearly every test was positive; they could only test 60/per day).


The only school to have been able to control an outbreak so far is VCU.

W&M, CNU & GMU have avoided them so far. UMW and ODU, the student returned too recently to really assess.



UVA had an initial surge, then it leveled off, but now it is growing again. Of course, it is UVA so what do you expect? I mean, the virus does not have a chance against the grounds.

[Anonymous]

I am a parent of a UVA student who is on campus. We have been told there are upwards of 1,000-1,500 dorm and hotel rooms reserved for quarantine and isolation cases. Those are separated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a UVA student who is on campus. We have been told there are upwards of 1,000-1,500 dorm and hotel rooms reserved for quarantine and isolation cases. Those are separated. Also, there is nowhere near 17,000 students in Charlottesville this semester. The percentage on campus has dropped from about 82% expected prior to return to Grounds, to about the mid 60s the week school started, and now some percentage below that as some kids decide to go home because pretty much is everything is closed down or to quarantine after contracting Covid. UVA administration has done a good job, though wastewater testing was delayed for some reason until after a number of confirmed cases were reported in a first-year dorm. Some students Have tried to get tested at student health and have been rejected for not meeting criteria, so they went elsewhere. That was a mistake on UVA’s part and suggested to parents that they may be worried about conserving nasal swab tests. We are still waiting for wide-scale saliva tests to begin, sometime in late September. They started random asymptomatic nasal swab tests, by sending emails to a random students as early as the second week. That did not appear to be the case with wastewater tests, which began later. My student just had their dorm tested by wastewater and then nasal swabs, after infection was found in the former. The jury is still out on whether students should have returned to campus. It was a risky decision that involved careful planning. But history has shown us how uNpredictable pandemics can be. We are testing each week as a bonus. But it’s tough for those kids to not be isolated given so few in-person classes (my students single in-person class was canceled by the professor), threats of suspension for gathering in large groups, and RAs who are overwhelmed and concerned about contracting Covid. There is no right answer, as president Ryan said, to taking either the UVA or the Johns Hopkins approach. These kids are getting pulled late at night after test results come in and Taken by cab to isolation rooms. Not easy for first year students, many of whom don’t have roommates. Many NOVA kids chose to stay home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a UVA student who is on campus. We have been told there are upwards of 1,000-1,500 dorm and hotel rooms reserved for quarantine and isolation cases. Those are separated. Also, there is nowhere near 17,000 students in Charlottesville this semester. The percentage on campus has dropped from about 82% expected prior to return to Grounds, to about the mid 60s the week school started, and now some percentage below that as some kids decide to go home because pretty much is everything is closed down or to quarantine after contracting Covid. UVA administration has done a good job, though wastewater testing was delayed for some reason until after a number of confirmed cases were reported in a first-year dorm. Some students Have tried to get tested at student health and have been rejected for not meeting criteria, so they went elsewhere. That was a mistake on UVA’s part and suggested to parents that they may be worried about conserving nasal swab tests. We are still waiting for wide-scale saliva tests to begin, sometime in late September. They started random asymptomatic nasal swab tests, by sending emails to a random students as early as the second week. That did not appear to be the case with wastewater tests, which began later. My student just had their dorm tested by wastewater and then nasal swabs, after infection was found in the former. The jury is still out on whether students should have returned to campus. It was a risky decision that involved careful planning. But history has shown us how uNpredictable pandemics can be. We are testing each week as a bonus. But it’s tough for those kids to not be isolated given so few in-person classes (my students single in-person class was canceled by the professor), threats of suspension for gathering in large groups, and RAs who are overwhelmed and concerned about contracting Covid. There is no right answer, as president Ryan said, to taking either the UVA or the Johns Hopkins approach. These kids are getting pulled late at night after test results come in and Taken by cab to isolation rooms. Not easy for first year students, many of whom don’t have roommates. Many NOVA kids chose to stay home.

Well the W&M approach seems to be working so far.

[Anonymous]

W&M us doing fine because the students mostly study and hang out in their rooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M us doing fine because the students mostly study and hang out in their rooms.

Perhaps they are just sensible enough to follow guidelines and realize if they don't follow them, everything goes pear shaped. (VCU has also done well, particularly given its size.)

It also looks like W&M had done more testing at this point. They did 3,893 test last week to 2,340 at UVA and W&M has only about a third as many students.

UVA's positive rate isn't close to what Radford or JMU got to, and is actually slightly lower than it was two weeks ago (9% vs 10%).

I think the real test for all these schools will when the weather gets cooler and the kids get more and more antsy with the restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M us doing fine because the students mostly study and hang out in their rooms.

Perhaps they are just sensible enough to follow guidelines and realize if they don't follow them, everything goes pear shaped. (VCU has also done well, particularly given its size.)

It also looks like W&M had done more testing at this point. They did 3,893 test last week to 2,340 at UVA and W&M has only about a third as many students.

UVA's positive rate isn't close to what Radford or JMU got to, and is actually slightly lower than it was two weeks ago (9% vs 10%).

I think the real test for all these schools will when the weather gets cooler and the kids get more and more antsy with the restrictions.

You think a 9% positivity rate is acceptable? What are the doing to get that number down? Notre Dame, which is accused on this forum for "screwing up" is at 1% positivity rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M us doing fine because the students mostly study and hang out in their rooms.

Perhaps they are just sensible enough to follow guidelines and realize if they don't follow them, everything goes pear shaped. (VCU has also done well, particularly given its size.)

It also looks like W&M had done more testing at this point. They did 3,893 test last week to 2,340 at UVA and W&M has only about a third as many students.

UVA's positive rate isn't close to what Radford or JMU got to, and is actually slightly lower than it was two weeks ago (9% vs 10%).

I think the real test for all these schools will when the weather gets cooler and the kids get more and more antsy with the restrictions.

You think a 9% positivity rate is acceptable? What are the doing to get that number down? Notre Dame, which is accused on this forum for "screwing up" is at 1% positivity rate.

You are forgetting Notre Dame made national headlines back in August when it began reporting a surge of coronavirus cases after bringing students back to campus, prompting the University to suspend in-person classes for two weeks. Notre Dame resumed in-person classes on Sept. 2 following a decline in cases, with the University’s dashboard reporting an estimated 43 active cases as of Monday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol
A week and a half ago everyone on here was saying the UVA kids were smart and wouldn’t spread covid. Look who’s the same as VT and JMU now.

Someone tracks the daily status from the college dashboards and makes estimates of the percentage that are positive from the testing data. For UVA, it is increasing, but certainly not to the level of Radford, JMU, and VT yet. UVA is estimated at 4.2% of population positive vs. 33% at Radford, 28% at JMU, and 11.2% at VT. The other Virginia schools seem to be doing better at this point.

https://www.vacovidstatus.com/2020/09/daily-status-sept_19.html

GMU has done very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:W&M us doing fine because the students mostly study and hang out in their rooms.

Perhaps they are just sensible enough to follow guidelines and realize if they don't follow them, everything goes pear shaped. (VCU has also done well, particularly given its size.)

It also looks like W&M had done more testing at this point. They did 3,893 test last week to 2,340 at UVA and W&M has only about a third as many students.

UVA's positive rate isn't close to what Radford or JMU got to, and is actually slightly lower than it was two weeks ago (9% vs 10%).

I think the real test for all these schools will when the weather gets cooler and the kids get more and more antsy with the restrictions.

You think a 9% positivity rate is acceptable? What are the doing to get that number down? Notre Dame, which is accused on this forum for "screwing up" is at 1% positivity rate.

You are forgetting Notre Dame made national headlines back in August when it began reporting a surge of coronavirus cases after bringing students back to campus, prompting the University to suspend in-person classes for two weeks. Notre Dame resumed in-person classes on Sept. 2 following a decline in cases, with the University’s dashboard reporting an estimated 43 active cases as of Monday.

The point here is the Notre Dame has fixed the problem of the surge. With 12K students plus faculty/staff, 43 active cases is pretty damn good. You cannot argue that 1% positivity is amazing for a school that started out in a bad place and instead of sending home infected students, they took the appropriate steps. Why isn't UVA doing that? The other parent said it is business as usual. Let's see what the numbers do in the next week. My prediction is if they don't take steps, they will have a problem. If you look at Notre Dame's graph, it is very similar to New York's. Surge at the very beginning which was flattened and remains flat.

UVA has 232 active cases and have had a total of 508 with classes started August 25. ND has 43 active cases with a total of 698 with classes starting on August 9. I would say it is a wash, except Notre Dame has it under control now and UVA does not. Let's see with the coming weeks bring.

[Anonymous]

Herd immunity is great. Get it over with. In my day chicken pox you put the kids together let them all get it.