Schedule - full day!?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As far as I know we do not need consent to record unless it will be shared with the public, as in people outside the school.

Teams informs you when it’s being recorded and it says to log off if you do not consent. By staying on the call you are legally consenting to be recorded.

I see no problem with this as a teacher but if parents feel unsafe in any way you can just let me know so I know your child won’t be on camera.

Guys/ you can’t deny a kid public education because they don’t want to be recorded. Please understand this.
For all of you recording teachers- can you honestly say, with certainty, where those recordings went? We’re they password protected?
For the sake of your own integrity figure this out.
In a nearby district they are held on a password protected & secure website for 48 hours & then deleted.
These are the kinds of things our district should have *already thought through.

Microsoft Teams or Microsoft in general is used by DCPS because they have deemed it the most secure. That’s why google drive is being pushed out and zoom is not allowed.

So if anything ‘leaks’ either the teacher posted it on some random site or there’s a serious hacker. The latter would obviously not be an issue of integrity and quite frankly if you feel teachers would randomly post students in a public place without consent perhaps you should home school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As far as I know we do not need consent to record unless it will be shared with the public, as in people outside the school.

Teams informs you when it’s being recorded and it says to log off if you do not consent. By staying on the call you are legally consenting to be recorded.

I see no problem with this as a teacher but if parents feel unsafe in any way you can just let me know so I know your child won’t be on camera.

Guys/ you can’t deny a kid public education because they don’t want to be recorded. Please understand this.
For all of you recording teachers- can you honestly say, with certainty, where those recordings went? We’re they password protected?
For the sake of your own integrity figure this out.
In a nearby district they are held on a password protected & secure website for 48 hours & then deleted.
These are the kinds of things our district should have *already thought through.

Microsoft Teams or Microsoft in general is used by DCPS because they have deemed it the most secure. That’s why google drive is being pushed out and zoom is not allowed.

So if anything ‘leaks’ either the teacher posted it on some random site or there’s a serious hacker. The latter would obviously not be an issue of integrity and quite frankly if you feel teachers would randomly post students in a public place without consent perhaps you should home school.

I don’t think it’s a question of teachers posting, but of students doing it to one another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is having your kid occupied all day a problem? If done by noon, then you have a whole lot more supervision to provide.

I think that is the logic behind this approach. But, like OP, I hate it because I think my kid will hate it. It’s one thing to coerce my DS to participate in — to him — painfully tedious online sessions. But him logging on and off through the day all the way til 3? Unlikely to happen.

I don’t have to provide him supervision for his free time — he’ll just read. But I do have to provide supervision for Zoom, which he finds intolerable.

+1. There was a silver lining for this whole covid and distance learning situation that is now eroded with full online schedules. They are ok for my older kid, but it’s just going to be a daily struggle with my 1st grader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can ask your school or the teacher to have all the live lessons you can’t attend with your kid recorded.

I’d do that for families who couldn’t always make a certain lesson. Then I could follow up with your child later.

I know it’s not ideal but this whole setup really isn’t at all.

They can't record lessons due to privacy at least according to our principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can ask your school or the teacher to have all the live lessons you can’t attend with your kid recorded.

I’d do that for families who couldn’t always make a certain lesson. Then I could follow up with your child later.

I know it’s not ideal but this whole setup really isn’t at all.

They can't record lessons due to privacy at least according to our principal.

I’m sure this will be our schools position too. Privacy. Liability. Teacher captures parent argument in background, mandatory reporting, who knows what and now you’ve got it on tape.

[Anonymous]

^^ exactly! You get it.
We can’t run around recording people’s homes

[Anonymous]

This thread pretty much sums it up. A bunch of bitter parents sniping at each other barely able to hide their jealousy about what others have or are able to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread pretty much sums it up. A bunch of bitter parents sniping at each other barely able to hide their jealousy about what others have or are able to do.

Jealousy? I believe we can all agree that a pandemic sucks for all and that we all have to make sacrifices. It’s clear that different approaches work for different families because we all have different kinds of jobs and kids! I was hoping the DL plan would be a bit more accommodating to the vast array of situations we are all facing. We are essential workers, others work in customer facing and in-person roles. It just seems like DCPS is out of touch with the reality many of us are facing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why parents are upset about school being all day.

No way an elementary kid will sit for 2.5 hours straight. I want it to be broken up into pieces.

If I have work I’m going to pay attention but mute. My job already knows my circumstance.

Employers need to be understanding, I suggest you gather parents and let the employer know. That is what we did at my company when they made no mention. They quickly sent out a staff email to employees asking if they needed reasonable accommodations.

+1

I agree -- three hours straight would never work. I like the way they've done it, in that they've broken up whole-class instruction, small-group work, online independent work, offline independent work, movement breaks, etc. Yes, it's logistically a bit trickier, but it more closely approximates an in-person school day, and having a regular schedule for the week will help. I bought my kid a pair of headphones with a mic so I don't have to listen all day. We sit at the same table, so I'm available to help log in, etc., and make sure she doesn't wander off. But I don't want to sit next to my kid while she's "in class." She needs to be listening to the teacher, not me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....

You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.

“all day jobs”? are you joking?

my job is flexible, but not flexible enough that I can be interrupted 5x/day to make sure my kid logs on to the computer.

Why on earth do you think you have to do that? An 8-year old can do this. Give your kid some credit. Will there be a glitch on occasion, yes. But if you set him up to think it is your job to make sure he is logged on, then it will become your job to do do. Start as you mean to go on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread pretty much sums it up. A bunch of bitter parents sniping at each other barely able to hide their jealousy about what others have or are able to do.

Jealousy? I believe we can all agree that a pandemic sucks for all and that we all have to make sacrifices. It’s clear that different approaches work for different families because we all have different kinds of jobs and kids! I was hoping the DL plan would be a bit more accommodating to the vast array of situations we are all facing. We are essential workers, others work in customer facing and in-person roles. It just seems like DCPS is out of touch with the reality many of us are facing.

The problem is that different people want different things. People complained that there wasn't enough live instruction, so they added some, and now people are complaining that there is too much. People complained about a lack of a consistent schedule, so they made one, and now people are complaining about the specific schedule. They can't please everyone. The schedule was created to be more like the in-person schedule, with a mix of whole-class instruction, small-group and independent work time, online work using apps, etc., and with movement breaks included because ES kids can't sit still and stare at a screen for three hours at a time.

Trying to accommodate everyone's personal situation isn't logistically feasible. This isn't ideal, but they did listen to feedback and try to address some of the issues we saw in the spring, to create something that was consistent and workable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread pretty much sums it up. A bunch of bitter parents sniping at each other barely able to hide their jealousy about what others have or are able to do.

Jealousy? I believe we can all agree that a pandemic sucks for all and that we all have to make sacrifices. It’s clear that different approaches work for different families because we all have different kinds of jobs and kids! I was hoping the DL plan would be a bit more accommodating to the vast array of situations we are all facing. We are essential workers, others work in customer facing and in-person roles. It just seems like DCPS is out of touch with the reality many of us are facing.

The problem is that different people want different things. People complained that there wasn't enough live instruction, so they added some, and now people are complaining that there is too much. People complained about a lack of a consistent schedule, so they made one, and now people are complaining about the specific schedule. They can't please everyone. The schedule was created to be more like the in-person schedule, with a mix of whole-class instruction, small-group and independent work time, online work using apps, etc., and with movement breaks included because ES kids can't sit still and stare at a screen for three hours at a time.

Trying to accommodate everyone's personal situation isn't logistically feasible. This isn't ideal, but they did listen to feedback and try to address some of the issues we saw in the spring, to create something that was consistent and workable.

And were the preponderance of the replies on this thread differing on such matters as live/recorded, breaks or straight through, etc. I would agree. But as usual it devolves into petty shots about types of jobs and amount of calls and value brought to the fore in the those meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can ask your school or the teacher to have all the live lessons you can’t attend with your kid recorded.

I’d do that for families who couldn’t always make a certain lesson. Then I could follow up with your child later.

I know it’s not ideal but this whole setup really isn’t at all.

They can't record lessons due to privacy at least according to our principal.

I’m sure this will be our schools position too. Privacy. Liability. Teacher captures parent argument in background, mandatory reporting, who knows what and now you’ve got it on tape.

And our principal said we should always record to post for the kids who can’t make it to the live sessions. DCPS needs to publicly release a policy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....

You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.

“all day jobs”? are you joking?

my job is flexible, but not flexible enough that I can be interrupted 5x/day to make sure my kid logs on to the computer.

Why on earth do you think you have to do that? An 8-year old can do this. Give your kid some credit. Will there be a glitch on occasion, yes. But if you set him up to think it is your job to make sure he is logged on, then it will become your job to do do. Start as you mean to go on!

Not all kids will be that compliant. I'm hopeful my 8 year old will figure it out, but I'm doubtful. And of course, it's way too much to expect for kids even younger than him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can ask your school or the teacher to have all the live lessons you can’t attend with your kid recorded.

I’d do that for families who couldn’t always make a certain lesson. Then I could follow up with your child later.

I know it’s not ideal but this whole setup really isn’t at all.

They can't record lessons due to privacy at least according to our principal.

I’m sure this will be our schools position too. Privacy. Liability. Teacher captures parent argument in background, mandatory reporting, who knows what and now you’ve got it on tape.

And our principal said we should always record to post for the kids who can’t make it to the live sessions. DCPS needs to publicly release a policy!

Why am I not surprised that a DCPS principal would be ignorant of FERPA and media rights ... No, do not record. You don't have permission to record my child. If DCPS wants to provide an asynchronous option, then they need to do that.