Op-Ed from previous MCPS SMOBs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is an achievement gap--blacks and Latinos are behind whites and Asians.

How can that gap be closed?

Blacks and Latinos must work harder than whites and Asians.

If whites and Asians study 2 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 3 hours a day.

If whites and Asians study 4 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 6 hours a day.

Until that happens, how can the achievement gap be closed?

Go away.

DP.. why? The ^PP is not wrong. My kid is not athletic, so he needs to work harder and practice more to be at the same level as the rest of his teammates. He may not like that fact, but it is what it is. He sucks at sports, and he knows it, but I tell him that part of the problem is that he doesn't want to try harder to get better. He'd rather play on his computer. I say to him that he obviously doesn't want it enough if he isn't willing to try harder.

My other DC's reading scores are not super high, and gets upset when DC doesn't score well. I tell this DC that if DC wants better test scores, DC needs to read more, but DC would rather watch TV, says reading is boring. OK, then, I guess you are not going to get better test scores because if you want to get better at something, you need to practice more. That is a truthism that is applicable to life in general.

I'm Asian Am. ,btw.

Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

Stop it. She is not saying her son is not athletic because he’s Asian American. She is saying her son is not athletic and happens to be Asian American. Educational success begins at home and there is something lacking in poor black/brown households making it so their kids don’t attain the level of educational success they could have attained in different environments.

So the achievement gap is just because of all of those kids who are not academic and happen to be Black or Hispanic? Really? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Certain zip codes succeeded at preventing construction of rental housing and public transportation. Fix that, and the W schools will magically become more diverse.

And, let’s make each W school a magnet so high performing kids from anywhere in the county can attend.

Easy.

Yes.

The answer is UPZONING.

Our zoning laws do more to segregate our schools than any other single factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.

That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.

That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?

Well, two things are

1. Not inherit the continuing legacy of 400 years of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people.
2. Buy into the Model Minority Myth, which is part of the continuing legacy of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people (see #1).

Also, generally, my attitude towards systematic injustice isn't "that's life" but rather "that needs to change because it's hurting people" but hey, that's me.

[Anonymous]

^^^here's something to read that might be helpful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/young-asians-and-latinos-push-their-parents-to-acknowledge-racism-amid-protests/2020/06/21/97daa5f2-b193-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?

PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.

I read plenty. One study was model in MCPS 30 years ago.
Please answer my question. Do you believe black and brown kids have to be with white and Asian kids to do better academically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?

PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.

I read plenty. One study was model in MCPS 30 years ago.
Please answer my question. Do you believe black and brown kids have to be with white and Asian kids to do better academically?

Is there a reason you're opposed to integrating schools?

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't know why Nate chose Kennedy if he wanted an integrated high school. It's okay that I used his name, because he wrote the Op-Ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.

That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?

Well, two things are

1. Not inherit the continuing legacy of 400 years of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people.
2. Buy into the Model Minority Myth, which is part of the continuing legacy of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people (see #1).

Also, generally, my attitude towards systematic injustice isn't "that's life" but rather "that needs to change because it's hurting people" but hey, that's me.

I don't buy this. There are several high performing black students at my daughter's predominantly black hs. Yet the majority of blacks are low performers. The difference is parental involvement and instilling the importance of an education seems to be the difference. my daughters friends get a lot of pressure from their parents to do well and it shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is an achievement gap--blacks and Latinos are behind whites and Asians.

How can that gap be closed?

Blacks and Latinos must work harder than whites and Asians.

If whites and Asians study 2 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 3 hours a day.

If whites and Asians study 4 hours a day, blacks and Latinos need to study 6 hours a day.

Until that happens, how can the achievement gap be closed?

Go away.

Why? its true. any black child that studies as much as any other child will do well. There are plenty of high performing black kids in the county that are doing well because they study. anyone who is doing poorly is because they either have a LD or they don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Are you saying that your kid is not athletic because he's Asian-American? Like, there's something about Asian-Americans that makes them personally bad at sports, and so they have to work harder? You're not saying that, are you? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Just like saying that there's something about Black kids and Latino kids that makes them personally bad at school, and so they have to work harder, is a ridiculous thing to say.

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0249/0

Here is an example, in Clarksburg High School, the math proficiency rate for Asians is 80.8%, blacks 38.1%, Latinos 37.1%, whites 72.6%. These are students in the same school and taught by the same teachers.

How can this gap be reduced? How can those behind catch up with those ahead, if not by working harder?

Let's say there's a 100-yard race. Runner A gets to start at the starting line. Runner B must start 20 yards behind the starting line. Your take on this situation is that Runner B should work harder on running faster.

That’s life. A lot of Asian immigrants came here with nothing and pulled themselves up. What did they do that the black community by in large isn’t?

Well, two things are

1. Not inherit the continuing legacy of 400 years of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people.
2. Buy into the Model Minority Myth, which is part of the continuing legacy of systematic personal and institutional racism against Black people (see #1).

Also, generally, my attitude towards systematic injustice isn't "that's life" but rather "that needs to change because it's hurting people" but hey, that's me.

Institutional racism is an excuse. If a black family is living in Bethesda and attending the same school as whites and Asian Americans, then what is holding him/her back ? How is he/she 20 years behind the starting line ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ After all, integrated schools are empirically proven to produce the kind of equality that the country is marching for. For black and brown children, integrated schools lead to higher test scores, increased graduation rates and higher levels of college enrollment. ”
No this again. Black and brown students do better when surrounded by white and asian students. I would like to ask the black SMOB member what his follow whitE and Asian students do to make him a better high school student. Did he do better on his AP English class? Did he pass his Calculus class effortless? Did other two SMOBs help their fellow black and brown students do better in school?

PP, if you're sincerely interested in learning about segregated vs. integrated schools, there's plenty out there on the Internet for you to read.

I read plenty. One study was model in MCPS 30 years ago.
Please answer my question. Do you believe black and brown kids have to be with white and Asian kids to do better academically?

Is there a reason you're opposed to integrating schools?

If you answer my question, I will tell you my thought on How to improve acadamic for all kids who need extra help.

[Anonymous]

This is 100% a housing issue, and not school issue. However the developers have too much money (and give to much money to County Council members who also choose Planning Board members) and wont succumb to pressure like the school system will.