"Prison on a Hill" MCPS Middle School

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My kids attended Neelsville quite a few years ago. The narrow hallways and stairwells are a huge problem during class changes. I hate to think of what would happen during an emergency. The huge ramp in the middle of the school is so steep that there is no way anyone in a wheelchair or on crutches could safely use it. The office is not near the front doors, so I don't know how a security vestibule could be constructed. Clearly, with the photos of the ceiling tiles, etc., something needs to be done now, even if they are temporary measures, like cleaning up the mold and replacing the ceiling tiles.

As for the person who snidely commented about how few parents were at the meeting, did you ever think about the fact that many of the parents have to work multiple jobs, often at night, and simply cannot take the time off to show up at a meeting? It shouldn't take a large group of parents showing up at a meeting to have a school with a healthy, safe environment! That is something that all children in this county should have!

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stick to the topic? We are humoring the rich sides of towns with hundreds of thousands of dollars in studies and not even doing basic repairs to the school. At a minimum that school needs a new roof, cleaned up, new ceiling tiles and made ADA compliant.

No one cared when the ghetto kids from Fox Chapel, Daly, etc. Went there. Why care now???? Cburg brats think they are to good for old Neelsville??

Fact check. The Neelesville kids have been begging since 2015!!! Staff there have been asking for help and yet they've been ignored. I have one staff member tell me she is convinced mcps has been ignoring them because they are a majority minority school with a high Farms rate. This is on mCPS, not the Clarksburg folks you want to demonize.

That may be so but the PP had a good point. Nobody cared until the privileged kids were assigned there. It sounds like diversifying these schools is having the intended impact since it will improve outcomes for many more students!

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stick to the topic? We are humoring the rich sides of towns with hundreds of thousands of dollars in studies and not even doing basic repairs to the school. At a minimum that school needs a new roof, cleaned up, new ceiling tiles and made ADA compliant.

No one cared when the ghetto kids from Fox Chapel, Daly, etc. Went there. Why care now???? Cburg brats think they are to good for old Neelsville??

Fact check. The Neelesville kids have been begging since 2015!!! Staff there have been asking for help and yet they've been ignored. I have one staff member tell me she is convinced mcps has been ignoring them because they are a majority minority school with a high Farms rate. This is on mCPS, not the Clarksburg folks you want to demonize.

That may be so but the PP had a good point. Nobody cared until the privileged kids were assigned there. It sounds like diversifying these schools is having the intended impact since it will improve outcomes for many more students!

That’s baloney. There are a number of school buildings that are significantly more deteriorated than Neelsville, even one of the - gasp! - W schools and the high profile magnet at Poolesville. MCPS is ignoring ALL of them. Let’s not make everything about race.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stick to the topic? We are humoring the rich sides of towns with hundreds of thousands of dollars in studies and not even doing basic repairs to the school. At a minimum that school needs a new roof, cleaned up, new ceiling tiles and made ADA compliant.

No one cared when the ghetto kids from Fox Chapel, Daly, etc. Went there. Why care now???? Cburg brats think they are to good for old Neelsville??

Fact check. The Neelesville kids have been begging since 2015!!! Staff there have been asking for help and yet they've been ignored. I have one staff member tell me she is convinced mcps has been ignoring them because they are a majority minority school with a high Farms rate. This is on mCPS, not the Clarksburg folks you want to demonize.

That may be so but the PP had a good point. Nobody cared until the privileged kids were assigned there. It sounds like diversifying these schools is having the intended impact since it will improve outcomes for many more students!

So that's exactly what's so whack about this. People are willing to jump down on the folks from Clarksburg when in fact MCPS is the one who has been ignoring the school for years. So only now will they do something about it when a bunch of loud middle class parents who just got moved there are bitching about it. Wouldn't you be loud and angry about it too? Since when has it been bad to advocate for a good school for your kids?

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Wittmans getting an addition...

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You are so wrong. You sound like Dr. Smith when he said he would send all 6 of his grandkids there.

He said he would but did not.

Nope, but the taxpayers did pay for Jack Smith to move to a bigger house that could accommodate visits from his 6 grandkids. I bet you he or his grandkids don't live anywhere near Neelsville MS.

Of course but I guarantee you he wouldn't put his grand kids there.

Why would he "put" his grandchildren in any school? He doesn't make those decisions.

Not sure if you saw and heard what he said in response to the parent complaints. He said Neelesville is an excellent school and he would be happy to send all 6 of his grandkids there.

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You are so wrong. You sound like Dr. Smith when he said he would send all 6 of his grandkids there.

He said he would but did not.

Nope, but the taxpayers did pay for Jack Smith to move to a bigger house that could accommodate visits from his 6 grandkids. I bet you he or his grandkids don't live anywhere near Neelsville MS.

Of course but I guarantee you he wouldn't put his grand kids there.

Why would he "put" his grandchildren in any school? He doesn't make those decisions.

Not sure if you saw and heard what he said in response to the parent complaints. He said Neelesville is an excellent school and he would be happy to send all 6 of his grandkids there.

I would expect any school superintendent to say the same thing about any of their schools. While at the same time planning to improve their conditions.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like every school

You are so wrong. You sound like Dr. Smith when he said he would send all 6 of his grandkids there.

He said he would but did not.

Nope, but the taxpayers did pay for Jack Smith to move to a bigger house that could accommodate visits from his 6 grandkids. I bet you he or his grandkids don't live anywhere near Neelsville MS.

Of course but I guarantee you he wouldn't put his grand kids there.

Why would he "put" his grandchildren in any school? He doesn't make those decisions.

Not sure if you saw and heard what he said in response to the parent complaints. He said Neelesville is an excellent school and he would be happy to send all 6 of his grandkids there.

I would expect any school superintendent to say the same thing about any of their schools. While at the same time planning to improve their conditions.

Ya sure. Parents aren't stupid and for him to say that is insulting their intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:I coach softball and we had evening practices at the school. Last year there was a late field trip that got in and kids were still on buses as we carried gear to the field. There was one boy yelling at me from his bus window, 'Hey cracker! Hey cracker cracker! F*ck you cracker!"

That was nice.

Glad my kid isn't there.

Cool story.

If it was a white kid calling a black or Hispanic person a derogatory name it wouldn't be a cool story would it?

NP. I have never heard an actual live black person (not a fictional character) call a white person cracker. Ever. And I’m almost 50. Sadly, I have heard a lot of black children and adults called the N word by real life white people.

Awww wa wa wa. I’ve heard 19,000 blacks call other blacks “nigga and “nigge*) and no one is ever disciplined.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stick to the topic? We are humoring the rich sides of towns with hundreds of thousands of dollars in studies and not even doing basic repairs to the school. At a minimum that school needs a new roof, cleaned up, new ceiling tiles and made ADA compliant.

Agreed. This is disconcerting. I actually work in the detention center the one student referred to. We aren’t missing ceiling tiles.....why is this school?

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Anonymous wrote:I coach softball and we had evening practices at the school. Last year there was a late field trip that got in and kids were still on buses as we carried gear to the field. There was one boy yelling at me from his bus window, 'Hey cracker! Hey cracker cracker! F*ck you cracker!"

That was nice.

Glad my kid isn't there.

Cool story.

If it was a white kid calling a black or Hispanic person a derogatory name it wouldn't be a cool story would it?

NP. I have never heard an actual live black person (not a fictional character) call a white person cracker. Ever. And I’m almost 50. Sadly, I have heard a lot of black children and adults called the N word by real life white people.

Awww wa wa wa. I’ve heard 19,000 blacks call other blacks “nigga and “nigge*) and no one is ever disciplined.

So what. Completely different context.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stick to the topic? We are humoring the rich sides of towns with hundreds of thousands of dollars in studies and not even doing basic repairs to the school. At a minimum that school needs a new roof, cleaned up, new ceiling tiles and made ADA compliant.

No one cared when the ghetto kids from Fox Chapel, Daly, etc. Went there. Why care now???? Cburg brats think they are to good for old Neelsville??

Fact check. The Neelesville kids have been begging since 2015!!! Staff there have been asking for help and yet they've been ignored. I have one staff member tell me she is convinced mcps has been ignoring them because they are a majority minority school with a high Farms rate. This is on mCPS, not the Clarksburg folks you want to demonize.

That may be so but the PP had a good point. Nobody cared until the privileged kids were assigned there. It sounds like diversifying these schools is having the intended impact since it will improve outcomes for many more students!

Bingo!

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton and Poolesville are in much worse shape and have had improvements delayed much longer than this school.

Which only proves that the condition of the school has nothing to do with outcomes. The population at Neelsville is such that parents have no involvement in their kids' education, and hence, the environment is horrendous...then pile on the physical conditions, and morale is down the tubes. Glad my kid will never be in a place like that.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids attended Neelsville quite a few years ago. The narrow hallways and stairwells are a huge problem during class changes. I hate to think of what would happen during an emergency. The huge ramp in the middle of the school is so steep that there is no way anyone in a wheelchair or on crutches could safely use it. The office is not near the front doors, so I don't know how a security vestibule could be constructed. Clearly, with the photos of the ceiling tiles, etc., something needs to be done now, even if they are temporary measures, like cleaning up the mold and replacing the ceiling tiles.

As for the person who snidely commented about how few parents were at the meeting, did you ever think about the fact that many of the parents have to work multiple jobs, often at night, and simply cannot take the time off to show up at a meeting? It shouldn't take a large group of parents showing up at a meeting to have a school with a healthy, safe environment! That is something that all children in this county should have!

The context of this comment was the large group of parents that showed up at the public hearing for the boundary change last fall, to oppose their children getting reassigned to Neelsville MS.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton and Poolesville are in much worse shape and have had improvements delayed much longer than this school.

Which only proves that the condition of the school has nothing to do with outcomes. The population at Neelsville is such that parents have no involvement in their kids' education, and hence, the environment is horrendous...then pile on the physical conditions, and morale is down the tubes. Glad my kid will never be in a place like that.

That comment says a whole lot about you.