Child at Eastern wears coat during day because it’s so cold

[Anonymous]

23:02, Eastern has NEVER had an overhaul and it has all the problems Poolesville has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poolesville has broken bathrooms, no heat, broken windows with cardboard covering, leaking ceilings, mold and mildew. Cry me a river.

The board gives themselves raises an is paying a half million on a boundary study. Years ago they spent millions in the study for high schoolers going to school later.

Soon, they will complain the state doesn’t give them enough even though they are only 25% of the funds from the budget. The county and piggy back taxes SHOULD be paying for infrastructure and every year it doesn’t.

This.

How the board can give themselves raises is appalling. The way they spend, why would Hogan want to give them more when the county doesn’t give more, nor does it spend it correctly. And like another poster mentioned in another thread. Why so much upper administration. Why all these expensive outsourced independent studies? Outsource curriculum every 3 years. Change testing all the time, which means more training money spent. Don’t even get me started on the promethium boards. Why all the free parent seminars and TED talks. Why all the special optional programs that costs millions to run. I know Eastern is a magnet, but these programs are NOT a priority over keeping kids safe and wam in schools. I would love to see the financials and a complete audit of funds. How can such an expensive county with so much wealth and excessive taxes. A county with 180 private schools that keep at least another 20K of kids that pay taxes towards our school system, but don’t utilize the pubic school system. It is a joke.

PP, Eastern is NOT a magnet. Eastern houses a magnet. It also houses a program for emotionally disabled students. And a program for ESOL students with little to no prior education, many of whom are also dealing with trauma experienced in their home countries. And then there are 600 or so neighborhood students from some of the county’s poorest households. The people complaining don’t just want a decent building for 300 gifted kids. Almost a thousand children are trying to learn in conditions that are downright unhealthy.

The PP said nothing about it being just a magnet. She said she thinks magnets and other program costs over basic safety and infrastructure is not a good way to spend the budget. But she realizes Eastern has a magnet and people probably would veto what she says.

Doesn’t she realize that those students are entitled under state law to an appropriate education? What does she think is so unnecessarily expensive about the 300 magnet students at Eastern? Zero attention would be paid to the building if the magnet was dismantled.

It's not 300, it's only 100!

If Easterm MS parents dont want the magnet program in their school, I am sure MCPS could find another MS to host it. I thought putting the magnet in the poor school is to boost scores in the school.

Learn some history. It was placed there long before the era of high stakes testing. The location was selected due to the de facto segregation.

[Anonymous]

Publicly funded buildings often have this problem. I'm a GG-15 fed and my area of the building is so poorly heated that we wear coats all winter. I've talked to the people who maintain our facilities and the reality is that they don't have the funds to ensure even distribution of heat, and our area is the one that doesn't get it. Yes, there are rules about the temperature that they are required to maintain but no one is willing to provide the funds to enable them to meet those requirements. It's not for lack of trying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Publicly funded buildings often have this problem. I'm a GG-15 fed and my area of the building is so poorly heated that we wear coats all winter. I've talked to the people who maintain our facilities and the reality is that they don't have the funds to ensure even distribution of heat, and our area is the one that doesn't get it. Yes, there are rules about the temperature that they are required to maintain but no one is willing to provide the funds to enable them to meet those requirements. It's not for lack of trying.

The issue is some schools have had multiple remodels including fancy fields and other schools cannot even get heat. They need a balance and repair these schools. Its not ok.

[Anonymous]

What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

[Anonymous]

Teacher here.

I'm in a fairly new building (<5 years old) where the heat doesn't work and kids wear coats or double up on hoodies. We know we won't get it fixed because of how much was spent on our building and all of the schools that still need basic repairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

It was 56 degrees in my class today. The girls were really cold. It is not comfortable at all. I highly doubt your office has ever been in the mid 50’s.

[Anonymous]

I am from India. The school buildings here match the quality of schools we had there. So it is ok and we can manage with this quality of facilities.
The education however substandard. Compared to what I got in India. What can be done to change that?

[Anonymous]

23:02, Eastern has NEVER had an overhaul and it has all the problems Poolesville has.

Actually Poolesville probably has the record for the most serious facilities problems. I think part of the roof collapsed at some point years ago and was shoddily patched or something.

Your attitude os exactly why though the BOE sits back and laughs at all the crumbly facilities, gives themselves a raise and throws money out the window on useless studies while funding a huge staff of internal administrators to create their own useless studies in parallel. The BOE and MCPS thrive on pitting the eastern and western parents against each other. MCCPTA played right into this and fueled the fire. Now, instead of having a mass of parents marching on the BOE demanding better safety and fiscal management to fix all the crumbling schools you instead are convinced that your school is crumbly because those damn parents on the other side of the county tool what money should have been your money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

23:02, Eastern has NEVER had an overhaul and it has all the problems Poolesville has.

Actually Poolesville probably has the record for the most serious facilities problems. I think part of the roof collapsed at some point years ago and was shoddily patched or something.

Your attitude os exactly why though the BOE sits back and laughs at all the crumbly facilities, gives themselves a raise and throws money out the window on useless studies while funding a huge staff of internal administrators to create their own useless studies in parallel. The BOE and MCPS thrive on pitting the eastern and western parents against each other. MCCPTA played right into this and fueled the fire. Now, instead of having a mass of parents marching on the BOE demanding better safety and fiscal management to fix all the crumbling schools you instead are convinced that your school is crumbly because those damn parents on the other side of the county tool what money should have been your money.

Let's keep this in perspective here, PP. The discussion is about Poolesville HS, not Churchill HS. Poolesville. Have you been to Poolesville?

In 2017-2018, 19% of students at John Poole MS received FARMs or had done so in the past. 13% at Poolesville ES, 23% at Monocacy ES. Yes, there's money in the Ag Reserve, but there's poverty, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

It was 56 degrees in my class today. The girls were really cold. It is not comfortable at all. I highly doubt your office has ever been in the mid 50’s.

I've worked in mid-50s rooms. It's cold, but it's not dangerous or work-prohibitive, provided you're dressed for it. (Lots of people wear shorts when it's 56 degrees outside, after all.) The kids probably aren't dressed for it, though, especially if there are other rooms in the building that are overheated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

It was 56 degrees in my class today. The girls were really cold. It is not comfortable at all. I highly doubt your office has ever been in the mid 50’s.

I've worked in mid-50s rooms. It's cold, but it's not dangerous or work-prohibitive, provided you're dressed for it. (Lots of people wear shorts when it's 56 degrees outside, after all.) The kids [b]probably aren't dressed for it, though, especially if there are other rooms in the building that are overheated.

The kids shouldn't be dressed for it in the first place! Is this a first-world country or what? And we're in suburban Washington, not rural Wyoming!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

23:02, Eastern has NEVER had an overhaul and it has all the problems Poolesville has.

Actually Poolesville probably has the record for the most serious facilities problems. I think part of the roof collapsed at some point years ago and was shoddily patched or something.

Your attitude os exactly why though the BOE sits back and laughs at all the crumbly facilities, gives themselves a raise and throws money out the window on useless studies while funding a huge staff of internal administrators to create their own useless studies in parallel. The BOE and MCPS thrive on pitting the eastern and western parents against each other. MCCPTA played right into this and fueled the fire. Now, instead of having a mass of parents marching on the BOE demanding better safety and fiscal management to fix all the crumbling schools you instead are convinced that your school is crumbly because those damn parents on the other side of the county tool what money should have been your money.

Let's keep this in perspective here, PP. The discussion is about Poolesville HS, not Churchill HS. Poolesville. Have you been to Poolesville?

In 2017-2018, 19% of students at John Poole MS received FARMs or had done so in the past. 13% at Poolesville ES, 23% at Monocacy ES. Yes, there's money in the Ag Reserve, but there's poverty, too.

It has nothing to do with poverty. They should do one round of remodels to ALL schools and then start building new ones. They also need to look at their actual spending and reduce costs with new buildings and the remodels and make them more simple designs so they can use that money to get things like HEAT. There is no excuse that some buildings don't have heat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

It was 56 degrees in my class today. The girls were really cold. It is not comfortable at all. I highly doubt your office has ever been in the mid 50’s.

I've worked in mid-50s rooms. It's cold, but it's not dangerous or work-prohibitive, provided you're dressed for it. (Lots of people wear shorts when it's 56 degrees outside, after all.) The kids [b]probably aren't dressed for it, though, especially if there are other rooms in the building that are overheated.

The kids shouldn't be dressed for it in the first place! Is this a first-world country or what? And we're in suburban Washington, not rural Wyoming!

Actually we are in Surbaban MD. No kids should be in a classroom with 50 degree temperatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with wearing a coat indoors sometimes in January? I do this in my office a lot during winter. It's expensive to heat buildings all the way to 70 in the winter.

It was 56 degrees in my class today. The girls were really cold. It is not comfortable at all. I highly doubt your office has ever been in the mid 50’s.

I've worked in mid-50s rooms. It's cold, but it's not dangerous or work-prohibitive, provided you're dressed for it. (Lots of people wear shorts when it's 56 degrees outside, after all.) The kids [b]probably aren't dressed for it, though, especially if there are other rooms in the building that are overheated.

The kids shouldn't be dressed for it in the first place! Is this a first-world country or what? And we're in suburban Washington, not rural Wyoming!

Eh. Your mother never told you to put a sweater on?