When you buy from a breeder...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had two Golden’s from breeders and they are literally perfect dogs—never even the slightest issue. The majority of rescues I know are sweet but have behavior quirks.

On a larger point, I don’t know why I should be required to make up for bad mistakes made by people in other states that are too lazy to spay/fix their dogs and/or care for the pups their dogs create. I would 100% support a law requiring those owners to be responsible for their dogs and I would 100% also donate money to fix those dogs for free. I think it’s really nice that so many of you bail those folks out from their poor decisions but I’m not going to get a dog that’s scared or kids or thunderstorms or other dogs or adult males because some guy in the south couldn’t be bothered to fix his dog.

Why on earth is it legal for people to have dogs, let them have puppies, and then not care for the puppies? So ridiculous.

Enlightened east coaster had to provide commentary

I’m actually from the southwest! But every single person I know with a rescue dog from here north to Massachusetts (and I know a ton of people with rescues) has one that was brought up from the deep south where the dog was found wandering around. I visited two different shelters and asked about dogs and all the dogs I asked about had the same background. As far as I can tell, the only dogs in the shelters up here that are not from the Deep South are the pit bull mixes. The whole thing just seems really messed up to me. Why don’t these rescue organizations just try to change the culture in the Deep South rather than enable a system where these dogs are traumatized by a life of homelessness followed by a traumatic interstate transport and shelter stay? I’d definitely donate to that cause. I already give a bunch of money to the shelters to help rescue these dogs but it seems preferable to me to put the effort into changing this disfunctional dynamic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had two Golden’s from breeders and they are literally perfect dogs—never even the slightest issue. The majority of rescues I know are sweet but have behavior quirks.

On a larger point, I don’t know why I should be required to make up for bad mistakes made by people in other states that are too lazy to spay/fix their dogs and/or care for the pups their dogs create. I would 100% support a law requiring those owners to be responsible for their dogs and I would 100% also donate money to fix those dogs for free. I think it’s really nice that so many of you bail those folks out from their poor decisions but I’m not going to get a dog that’s scared or kids or thunderstorms or other dogs or adult males because some guy in the south couldn’t be bothered to fix his dog.

Why on earth is it legal for people to have dogs, let them have puppies, and then not care for the puppies? So ridiculous.

Enlightened east coaster had to provide commentary

I’m actually from the southwest! But every single person I know with a rescue dog from here north to Massachusetts (and I know a ton of people with rescues) has one that was brought up from the deep south where the dog was found wandering around. I visited two different shelters and asked about dogs and all the dogs I asked about had the same background. As far as I can tell, the only dogs in the shelters up here that are not from the Deep South are the pit bull mixes. The whole thing just seems really messed up to me. Why don’t these rescue organizations just try to change the culture in the Deep South rather than enable a system where these dogs are traumatized by a life of homelessness followed by a traumatic interstate transport and shelter stay? I’d definitely donate to that cause. I already give a bunch of money to the shelters to help rescue these dogs but it seems preferable to me to put the effort into changing this disfunctional dynamic.

Except possibly for the pitbulls and Chihuahuas (which are found everywhere), the rescue dogs aren't truly "from the South." That's a fantasy lie told by rescues to mask the fact their dogs come from auction houses and puppy mills. Some of those may indeed be in the south (much of them from Amish country), but it's not like the south is wildly different than the rest of the country as far as pets go. Most of your friends' dogs were not just found "wandering" in the south. They are instead the product of auctions and puppy mills. Your friends were just told they were rescues that were "wandering."

I mean, put two and two together. Don't you think it's just a little bit too coincidental that the "rescue fee" of a lot of these organizations is a bit more than what puppy mill puppies used to cost at pet stores? Do you honestly think the massive puppy mills and dog auctions simply closed up shop when pet stores stopped selling pets? Of course they didn't. They are still here, but instead launder their dogs through Petfinder and shady rescues. That's where your friends' dogs come from.

[Anonymous]

No, I'm petting my amazing Golden right now. But I also have a rescued Beagle so I feel like they balance each other out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had two Golden’s from breeders and they are literally perfect dogs—never even the slightest issue. The majority of rescues I know are sweet but have behavior quirks.

On a larger point, I don’t know why I should be required to make up for bad mistakes made by people in other states that are too lazy to spay/fix their dogs and/or care for the pups their dogs create. I would 100% support a law requiring those owners to be responsible for their dogs and I would 100% also donate money to fix those dogs for free. I think it’s really nice that so many of you bail those folks out from their poor decisions but I’m not going to get a dog that’s scared or kids or thunderstorms or other dogs or adult males because some guy in the south couldn’t be bothered to fix his dog.

Why on earth is it legal for people to have dogs, let them have puppies, and then not care for the puppies? So ridiculous.

Enlightened east coaster had to provide commentary

I’m actually from the southwest! But every single person I know with a rescue dog from here north to Massachusetts (and I know a ton of people with rescues) has one that was brought up from the deep south where the dog was found wandering around. I visited two different shelters and asked about dogs and all the dogs I asked about had the same background. As far as I can tell, the only dogs in the shelters up here that are not from the Deep South are the pit bull mixes. The whole thing just seems really messed up to me. Why don’t these rescue organizations just try to change the culture in the Deep South rather than enable a system where these dogs are traumatized by a life of homelessness followed by a traumatic interstate transport and shelter stay? I’d definitely donate to that cause. I already give a bunch of money to the shelters to help rescue these dogs but it seems preferable to me to put the effort into changing this disfunctional dynamic.

Except possibly for the pitbulls and Chihuahuas (which are found everywhere), the rescue dogs aren't truly "from the South." That's a fantasy lie told by rescues to mask the fact their dogs come from auction houses and puppy mills. Some of those may indeed be in the south (much of them from Amish country), but it's not like the south is wildly different than the rest of the country as far as pets go. Most of your friends' dogs were not just found "wandering" in the south. They are instead the product of auctions and puppy mills. Your friends were just told they were rescues that were "wandering."

I mean, put two and two together. Don't you think it's just a little bit too coincidental that the "rescue fee" of a lot of these organizations is a bit more than what puppy mill puppies used to cost at pet stores? Do you honestly think the massive puppy mills and dog auctions simply closed up shop when pet stores stopped selling pets? Of course they didn't. They are still here, but instead launder their dogs through Petfinder and shady rescues. That's where your friends' dogs come from.

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Oh horseshit. “Puppy mills” and “backyard breeders” aren’t the source for the hundreds of 9-hr-old hounds you see constantly on petfinder, along with the mangy, skeletal GSD-whippet mixes, the three-legged farm mutts and so on. All those elderly beagles with the white muzzles? were former hunting dog pack animals for good ol’ boys who didnt feell like paying for their food anymore when they got old and slow. So they just open the back gate, forever. West Virginia alone could supply the entire US with the last type of shelter dog

[Anonymous]

Yes. That's why this time around we are hoping to adopt through a breed rescue. I can get a purebred, but still give a home to a a dog that needs it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had two Golden’s from breeders and they are literally perfect dogs—never even the slightest issue. The majority of rescues I know are sweet but have behavior quirks.

On a larger point, I don’t know why I should be required to make up for bad mistakes made by people in other states that are too lazy to spay/fix their dogs and/or care for the pups their dogs create. I would 100% support a law requiring those owners to be responsible for their dogs and I would 100% also donate money to fix those dogs for free. I think it’s really nice that so many of you bail those folks out from their poor decisions but I’m not going to get a dog that’s scared or kids or thunderstorms or other dogs or adult males because some guy in the south couldn’t be bothered to fix his dog.

Why on earth is it legal for people to have dogs, let them have puppies, and then not care for the puppies? So ridiculous.

Enlightened east coaster had to provide commentary

I’m actually from the southwest! But every single person I know with a rescue dog from here north to Massachusetts (and I know a ton of people with rescues) has one that was brought up from the deep south where the dog was found wandering around. I visited two different shelters and asked about dogs and all the dogs I asked about had the same background. As far as I can tell, the only dogs in the shelters up here that are not from the Deep South are the pit bull mixes. The whole thing just seems really messed up to me. Why don’t these rescue organizations just try to change the culture in the Deep South rather than enable a system where these dogs are traumatized by a life of homelessness followed by a traumatic interstate transport and shelter stay? I’d definitely donate to that cause. I already give a bunch of money to the shelters to help rescue these dogs but it seems preferable to me to put the effort into changing this disfunctional dynamic.

Except possibly for the pitbulls and Chihuahuas (which are found everywhere), the rescue dogs aren't truly "from the South." That's a fantasy lie told by rescues to mask the fact their dogs come from auction houses and puppy mills. Some of those may indeed be in the south (much of them from Amish country), but it's not like the south is wildly different than the rest of the country as far as pets go. Most of your friends' dogs were not just found "wandering" in the south. They are instead the product of auctions and puppy mills. Your friends were just told they were rescues that were "wandering."

I mean, put two and two together. Don't you think it's just a little bit too coincidental that the "rescue fee" of a lot of these organizations is a bit more than what puppy mill puppies used to cost at pet stores? Do you honestly think the massive puppy mills and dog auctions simply closed up shop when pet stores stopped selling pets? Of course they didn't. They are still here, but instead launder their dogs through Petfinder and shady rescues. That's where your friends' dogs come from.

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Oh horseshit. “Puppy mills” and “backyard breeders” aren’t the source for the hundreds of 9-hr-old hounds you see constantly on petfinder, along with the mangy, skeletal GSD-whippet mixes, the three-legged farm mutts and so on. All those elderly beagles with the white muzzles? were former hunting dog pack animals for good ol’ boys who didnt feell like paying for their food anymore when they got old and slow. So they just open the back gate, forever. West Virginia alone could supply the entire US with the last type of shelter dog

Of course they are largely from auctions and puppy mills. Also backyard breeders. The old ones are breeding stock that the backyard breeders/mills/auctions have tired of. Most people in the South don't act the way you want to believe they do, certainly not enough to supply the thousands of rescue dogs supposedly "from the South" that populate rescues elsewhere in the country. You'd see that if you could exercise common sense. Or do some reading. The Washington Post had a detailed article about the connection between rescues and auctions a few years ago. There have been books as well on the subject.

You are hostile because your ego as a "rescuer" is more important to you than not supporting auctions and puppy mills, but that's what you have done.