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From Jagger himself. On the live band point, he’s right they were awesome in their pre-fame days before they literally couldn’t hear themselves play. They didn’t have the conditions to play well by mid-1963 and then they stopped touring before equipment got to the point where you could really rock out, Who style.
Anyway: The Beatles were so big that it's hard for people not alive at the time to realize just how big they were. There isn't a real comparison with anyone now. I suppose Michael Jackson at one point, but it still doesn't quite seem the same. They were so big that to be competitive with them was impossible. I'm talking about in record sales and tours and all this. They were huge... They certainly were not a great live band. Maybe they were in the days of the Cavern, when they were coming up as a club band. I'm sure they were hilariously funny and all that. And they did have this really good onstage persona. But as far as the modern-day world, they were not a great performing band. But... (t)hey were the Beatles. They were this forerunning, breakthrough item, and that's hard to overestimate. Jagger 1995 |
Another George fan! This is awesome
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FYI: Roger Daltrey is still the lead singer for The Who. Him and Pete Townshend are the surviving members of the group, and they are playing a concert today at Wembley Stadium. You're thinking of either Keith Moon or John Entwhistle, both of whom passed away. |
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| Fun fact: the Rolling Stones' first hit record was a Lennon-McCartney song. |
Actually, it was their second single. They needed a follow-up hit and Jagger was visiting the Beatles in the studio. Paul said they had a song they just needed to finish. It was I Wanna Be Your Man. He went in a corner with John and finished it then and there. One underappreciated aspect of McCartney and Lennon's genius was that, beyond all the songs they recorded with the Beatles, they gave away a huge number of songs during the 60s that became hits for other artists. Just another reason their songwriting talent is really unparalleled in the rock/pop world. This album has just a few of them and doesn't even include I Wanna Be Your Man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Songs_Lennon_and_McCartney_Gave_Away Another thing people don't fully appreciate is that, despite the fact that Apple Records folded fairly quickly as a record company for anyone other than the Beatles, they did help produce albums for Badfinger, Cilla Black, and most notably, they were the first to sign James Taylor. The lyric "a holy host of others standing around me" in Carolina In My Mind is a reference to the fact that Paul played bass on it and George sang backing vocals. It also went the other way -- George openly said his lyric "something in the way she moves" came from Taylor's lyric. This is a long way of saying that when you combine the ingenuity of the Beatles' group and solo outputs and the influence that music had, along with how many songs they gave away to others and the concrete impact they had on other artists' careers, I simply don't see how any other band compares. |
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Depends on my mood, but at any given time it could be: Wild Horses Gimme Shelter Lovin’ Cup Shine A Light You Can’t Always Sympathy (Get Your Ya Yas Out version) Brown Sugar Yes, I’m a fan. |
Great picks. My favorites: Moonlight Mile Beast or Burden Get Off of My Cloud Start Me Up Wild Horses (The Sundays version too) |
| Never heard of either except for that magazine |
That’s a start. |
This |
Not as superior as you
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The Beatles were big because they were more like craft.. but the Stones are more like art. Different kind of big.
If the two were food, Beatles would be like Rice Crispy cereal, processed to perfection that leads to nausea requiring search for something palate cleansing.. like say.. bread.. they eventually became their own bread after they split but perhaps they got drawn in their own overly sweet music that just like honey was difficult to swim for a long time in. Stones.. Stones were more self made not so processed, they were more like organic food, the flavor is deeper, more intense, lasts longer and long after eating you feel that your body has been feed for a very long time... in a very good healthy way.
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