Why do aftercare programs don't provide more pickup options?

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Anonymous wrote:^^no idea how democrats got involved in this!!

“Gives me the chance”

-PP

Thanks, Obama!

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Anonymous wrote:Haha OP here, everyone calms down.
So at my school most aftercare staffs are teachers who are there for the day and are trying to make some extra bucks, so I am sure some would want to stay an extra 1-2hours instead of 3 hours. I wasn't asking for paying for 45minutes, but maybe instead of paying $400/3 hours they should have $250/1.5 hours and $400/3 hours? Most summer camps after care programs provide that options why cant schools do the same?

Running aftercare programs is complicated and this would be a complicated option. I understand why you want it but it's just unlikely. I have seen aftercare that ends at 6pm with a special option for 6:30pm that parents pay extra to access. But, in this case, it would be easier to track who is supposed to be left at 6:15pm and who is not. In your scenario, it would be really hard to keep track of which parents paid for 2 hours but regularly used 3.

Our first charter had drop in aftercare which was AMAZING. Our current one doesn't. But, we understand our current one is run in house and they just can't handle the variability as much as the hired program. So, we deal.

If you've found an aftercare nanny for two kids for less than $1000, great! Keep doing that. Ours is super reliable but we may much more.

OP here, can you share how much you pay and what is her schedule? I am considering at all my options. Thanks

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Anonymous wrote:Posts like this drive me crazy because they are so self absorbed. The aftercare program is running a service. It needs to employ staff and maintain appropriate ratios. How could it manage pro-rating for early pick up times like child care at a gym? So the staff would only get paid for working an extra 45 min? Just think about it.

Seriously. OP is so typical self-absorbed DC.
"what do you mean, can't the aftercare staff work around MY needs? Surely the employees can manage to just live off of 45 minutes of salary because that's only childcare hours I need. What, the workers have set bills and need a full 3 hours of income?. NO way, I thought the world revolved around me!"

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OP, aftercare isn't really created to be tailored to your needs; its more of a catch-all (one size fits all) operation. It sounds like you need a part-time nanny or attend a private school (where they offer these options). Aftercare is program offered to working parents that can't pick up their kids at 3 or 3:15 because of their jobs. You pay a flat fee because your child can stay from 3:30 to 6:30 even if you don't need them to be there the entire time. It's not customizable. It doesn't exist to offer these different options--it exists to meet the general needs of the parent body.

I guess if you don't like something at your public school the only option is to go private? Seriously guys it ok to ask for "better" options!

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Anonymous wrote:Posts like this drive me crazy because they are so self absorbed. The aftercare program is running a service. It needs to employ staff and maintain appropriate ratios. How could it manage pro-rating for early pick up times like child care at a gym? So the staff would only get paid for working an extra 45 min? Just think about it.

Seriously. OP is so typical self-absorbed DC.
"what do you mean, can't the aftercare staff work around MY needs? Surely the employees can manage to just live off of 45 minutes of salary because that's only childcare hours I need. What, the workers have set bills and need a full 3 hours of income?. NO way, I thought the world revolved around me!"

+1

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OP, aftercare isn't really created to be tailored to your needs; its more of a catch-all (one size fits all) operation. It sounds like you need a part-time nanny or attend a private school (where they offer these options). Aftercare is program offered to working parents that can't pick up their kids at 3 or 3:15 because of their jobs. You pay a flat fee because your child can stay from 3:30 to 6:30 even if you don't need them to be there the entire time. It's not customizable. It doesn't exist to offer these different options--it exists to meet the general needs of the parent body.

I guess if you don't like something at your public school the only option is to go private? Seriously guys it ok to ask for "better" options!

Providing aftercare is an extra service. Schools are NOT required to offer it at all.

So, go private, or enter the lottery for another school that has aftercare that suits your needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha OP here, everyone calms down.
So at my school most aftercare staffs are teachers who are there for the day and are trying to make some extra bucks, so I am sure some would want to stay an extra 1-2hours instead of 3 hours. I wasn't asking for paying for 45minutes, but maybe instead of paying $400/3 hours they should have $250/1.5 hours and $400/3 hours? Most summer camps after care programs provide that options why cant schools do the same?

I have never seen a summer camp that offers multiple aftercare options like that.

They also have fixed costs that are unrelated to how long your kid stays, such as snacks, supplies, any craft materials used, administrative costs, insurance, rent, etc.

It's also possible that there's not enough demand for it, or they have no trouble filling their aftercare program as-is and see no need to change it to make less money than they do now.

This is just one example of camps with those options:
https://anshome.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/2019-Summer-Camp-Guide.pdf

The highlights of the flyer above:
Fees (same rate for members and nonmembers)
$45 per week for Before Care from 8-8:45 am, Tuesday-Friday (Grades 1 and up only)
$120 per week for Full Extended Camp from 3-6 pm (Grades 1-4)
$65 per week for Half Extended Camp from 3-4 pm (Grades Full Day Pre-K/K-4)
$75 per week for Half Extended Camp from 4-6 pm (Grades 5 and up only)

So yeah maybe what I am asking is not that crazy or impossible!

NP here- I have truly never seen this before. I think this is unique to this camp.

I know of another camp that has similar fee structure. This is not unique.

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TR's Springboard aftercare offers a bridge hour from when 3:30 to 4:30 PM. Normal aftercare goes until 6 PM. I cannot remember the cost difference offhand, but this does exist.

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Maret used to offer a 5pm and a 6pm pick up plan, and release a few employees early. It was a pretty good system, employees were paid for the whole time, and they made absolute bank off parents who picked up at 5:10pm consistently.

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Anonymous wrote:Posts like this drive me crazy because they are so self absorbed. The aftercare program is running a service. It needs to employ staff and maintain appropriate ratios. How could it manage pro-rating for early pick up times like child care at a gym? So the staff would only get paid for working an extra 45 min? Just think about it.

Seriously. OP is so typical self-absorbed DC.
"what do you mean, can't the aftercare staff work around MY needs? Surely the employees can manage to just live off of 45 minutes of salary because that's only childcare hours I need. What, the workers have set bills and need a full 3 hours of income?. NO way, I thought the world revolved around me!"

+1

+100

OP, aftercare isn't really created to be tailored to your needs; its more of a catch-all (one size fits all) operation. It sounds like you need a part-time nanny or attend a private school (where they offer these options). Aftercare is program offered to working parents that can't pick up their kids at 3 or 3:15 because of their jobs. You pay a flat fee because your child can stay from 3:30 to 6:30 even if you don't need them to be there the entire time. It's not customizable. It doesn't exist to offer these different options--it exists to meet the general needs of the parent body.

I guess if you don't like something at your public school the only option is to go private? Seriously guys it ok to ask for "better" options!

So better options at a public school aftercare program that's created to serve as many parents as possible is to simply ask for the school to customize it to your needs? That's literally why people opt for private or a nanny share. I get that this annoying for her, but these fumes of entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:Posts like this drive me crazy because they are so self absorbed. The aftercare program is running a service. It needs to employ staff and maintain appropriate ratios. How could it manage pro-rating for early pick up times like child care at a gym? So the staff would only get paid for working an extra 45 min? Just think about it.

Seriously. OP is so typical self-absorbed DC.
"what do you mean, can't the aftercare staff work around MY needs? Surely the employees can manage to just live off of 45 minutes of salary because that's only childcare hours I need. What, the workers have set bills and need a full 3 hours of income?. NO way, I thought the world revolved around me!"

+1

+100

OP, aftercare isn't really created to be tailored to your needs; its more of a catch-all (one size fits all) operation. It sounds like you need a part-time nanny or attend a private school (where they offer these options). Aftercare is program offered to working parents that can't pick up their kids at 3 or 3:15 because of their jobs. You pay a flat fee because your child can stay from 3:30 to 6:30 even if you don't need them to be there the entire time. It's not customizable. It doesn't exist to offer these different options--it exists to meet the general needs of the parent body.

I guess if you don't like something at your public school the only option is to go private? Seriously guys it ok to ask for "better" options!

So better options at a public school aftercare program that's created to serve as many parents as possible is to simply ask for the school to customize it to your needs? That's literally why people opt for private or a nanny share. I get that this annoying for her, but these fumes of entitlement.

You forget that other schools do provide those options, so yeah this doesn't sound like a crazy request to me.

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OP here. I was reading a different thread and someone mentioned Janney aftercare program where you only paid what you use, this would be a great alternative for me. Do many aftercare programs do this or is Janney an outlier.
I have to say I am really impressed by their price break down but you really only paid for what you need, check it out:

https://www.janneyschool.org/janneyplus/jac/

For example I work 2 days from home and will be happy to pay for the other 3 days but not for the whole week or pay the crazy drop in rate!

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I was reading a different thread and someone mentioned Janney aftercare program where you only paid what you use, this would be a great alternative for me. Do many aftercare programs do this or is Janney an outlier.
I have to say I am really impressed by their price break down but you really only paid for what you need, check it out:

https://www.janneyschool.org/janneyplus/jac/

For example I work 2 days from home and will be happy to pay for the other 3 days but not for the whole week or pay the crazy drop in rate!

You still pay for the entire day you use; it’s not charged by the hour. This is also a parent-run non profit org, so no overhead going to for profit companies.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I was reading a different thread and someone mentioned Janney aftercare program where you only paid what you use, this would be a great alternative for me. Do many aftercare programs do this or is Janney an outlier.
I have to say I am really impressed by their price break down but you really only paid for what you need, check it out:

https://www.janneyschool.org/janneyplus/jac/

For example I work 2 days from home and will be happy to pay for the other 3 days but not for the whole week or pay the crazy drop in rate!

You still pay for the entire day you use; it’s not charged by the hour. This is also a parent-run non profit org, so no overhead going to for profit companies.

That is why I said an alternative. Also the have late pickup fee, which means normal care stop at 6, after 630pm you pay extra. My aftercare charges everyone till 630pm. Also good to know that parents run this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I was reading a different thread and someone mentioned Janney aftercare program where you only paid what you use, this would be a great alternative for me. Do many aftercare programs do this or is Janney an outlier.
I have to say I am really impressed by their price break down but you really only paid for what you need, check it out:

https://www.janneyschool.org/janneyplus/jac/

For example I work 2 days from home and will be happy to pay for the other 3 days but not for the whole week or pay the crazy drop in rate!

You still pay for the entire day you use; it’s not charged by the hour. This is also a parent-run non profit org, so no overhead going to for profit companies.

Exactly. Our aftercare provider (Wonders) also lets you do a part-time schedule so that you go only certain days of the week, but you have to pay for the whole day.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I was reading a different thread and someone mentioned Janney aftercare program where you only paid what you use, this would be a great alternative for me. Do many aftercare programs do this or is Janney an outlier.
I have to say I am really impressed by their price break down but you really only paid for what you need, check it out:

https://www.janneyschool.org/janneyplus/jac/

For example I work 2 days from home and will be happy to pay for the other 3 days but not for the whole week or pay the crazy drop in rate!

You still pay for the entire day you use; it’s not charged by the hour. This is also a parent-run non profit org, so no overhead going to for profit companies.

That is why I said an alternative. Also the have late pickup fee, which means normal care stop at 6, after 630pm you pay extra. My aftercare charges everyone till 630pm. Also good to know that parents run this!

Great OP - you should definitely go to Janney then.

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I am in the same situation. I am a teacher at another district and can make it to my kids buildings by 4:10 but pay for the entire aftercare (6:45) slot. I get it though, for all the reasons stated. So 4 times a week I head to the JCC and workout for an hour. Figure I am paying for it. I also really enjoy the post workout shower. Alone, can use lots of hot water, I blow dry my hair in peace, etc etc. Then I can head to bed rather quickly after my kids are down because Im all washed up already. Can you think of something to do for yourself with the time?