Bullying - Eliot-Hines

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

I experienced ongoing violence at my 100% white suburban middle and high schools in the midwest.

My high school kid has never experienced bullying in WOTP DCPS. It's really move of a school by school thing, very much influenced by how seriously the admin takes bullying.

This. I have a kid who is vulnerable to bullying (already experiencing those dynamics in elementary) and I am ultimately much more concerned about the school admin than the racial/economic makeup of the school. I am also concerned about the quality of instruction and whether there is a cohort of nerdy kids for my kid to be friends with, but I really have no clue where we will find that. It's entirely possible he'll feel more at home at a school like Eliot-Hine with kids of families that are not obsessed with outward appearances.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

NP. The second point is NOT delusional. Where do mass shootings take place? All that I'm aware of have been in suburbs with different demographics, not urban city centers.

YET.

Sure it's not out of the question, but based on prior history this statistically rare event is more likely to happen in the suburbs.

Most urban districts have metal detectors at each entrance that everyone passes thru each day. So the odds are fairly low that someone can actually bring a weapon inside of a DCPS school. Charters are very different. I haven't been in a charter that has the same amount of security as DCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

NP. The second point is NOT delusional. Where do mass shootings take place? All that I'm aware of have been in suburbs with different demographics, not urban city centers.

YET.

Sure it's not out of the question, but based on prior history this statistically rare event is more likely to happen in the suburbs.

Most urban districts have metal detectors at each entrance that everyone passes thru each day. So the odds are fairly low that someone can actually bring a weapon inside of a DCPS school. Charters are very different. I haven't been in a charter that has the same amount of security as DCPS schools.

In DC, every middle and high school is mandated to have a metal detector by law. They are strict too. My son had a fork confiscated that I put in his lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

NP. The second point is NOT delusional. Where do mass shootings take place? All that I'm aware of have been in suburbs with different demographics, not urban city centers.

YET.

L.O.L.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS struggles to provide a safe learning environment. Not sure what the issue is. Don’t they have an alternative school for kids who have bad behavioral issues? Or was this unique to my school district growing up?

They do have alternative school for kids with behavioral issues or who are caught doing things like drug dealing on campus. Placement can be a lengthy process, however.

Well, EH is a slated school for kids with behavior problems. DCPS decided to dump a bunch of kids on them because they weren’t enrolled at capacity. So there’s that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS struggles to provide a safe learning environment. Not sure what the issue is. Don’t they have an alternative school for kids who have bad behavioral issues? Or was this unique to my school district growing up?

They do have alternative school for kids with behavioral issues or who are caught doing things like drug dealing on campus. Placement can be a lengthy process, however.

Well, EH is a slated school for kids with behavior problems. DCPS decided to dump a bunch of kids on them because they weren’t enrolled at capacity. So there’s that.

How do you know that? Links?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS struggles to provide a safe learning environment. Not sure what the issue is. Don’t they have an alternative school for kids who have bad behavioral issues? Or was this unique to my school district growing up?

They do have alternative school for kids with behavioral issues or who are caught doing things like drug dealing on campus. Placement can be a lengthy process, however.

Well, EH is a slated school for kids with behavior problems. DCPS decided to dump a bunch of kids on them because they weren’t enrolled at capacity. So there’s that.

How do you know that? Links?

NP. The term 'dumping' is offensive.

EH - and several other schools - are home to designated self-contained "Behavioral and Educational Support Programs" classrooms.

Description of BES - Full-time special education classrooms are highly structured and supportive with low student to staff ratios. All classrooms are staffed with certified special education teachers and instructional paraprofessionals. Academic
instruction is aligned to the Common Core State Standards and the DCPS Scope and Sequence. Some students access the general education curriculum, while others are provided with a modified curriculum. In all classes, interventions
supplement the general education curriculum and the modified curriculum. Specially trained and certified related service providers support the needs of the students in accordance with their IEP. Some students participate in the
standard state assessment with accommodations, while others participate in alternate state assessments.

Full-Time Programs:

• Behavior & Education Support (BES): Supports students who have been identified with an emotional disability or who have challenging behaviors and require a more therapeutic environment. ([e-mail]) https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/Family%20Programs%20and%20Resources%20Guide18-19.pdf

List of all specialized classrooms here: https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/FTP%20Vertical.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS struggles to provide a safe learning environment. Not sure what the issue is. Don’t they have an alternative school for kids who have bad behavioral issues? Or was this unique to my school district growing up?

They do have alternative school for kids with behavioral issues or who are caught doing things like drug dealing on campus. Placement can be a lengthy process, however.

Well, EH is a slated school for kids with behavior problems. DCPS decided to dump a bunch of kids on them because they weren’t enrolled at capacity. So there’s that.

How do you know that? Links?

NP. The term 'dumping' is offensive.

EH - and several other schools - are home to designated self-contained "Behavioral and Educational Support Programs" classrooms.

Description of BES - Full-time special education classrooms are highly structured and supportive with low student to staff ratios. All classrooms are staffed with certified special education teachers and instructional paraprofessionals. Academic
instruction is aligned to the Common Core State Standards and the DCPS Scope and Sequence. Some students access the general education curriculum, while others are provided with a modified curriculum. In all classes, interventions
supplement the general education curriculum and the modified curriculum. Specially trained and certified related service providers support the needs of the students in accordance with their IEP. Some students participate in the
standard state assessment with accommodations, while others participate in alternate state assessments.

Full-Time Programs:

• Behavior & Education Support (BES): Supports students who have been identified with an emotional disability or who have challenging behaviors and require a more therapeutic environment. ([e-mail]) https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/Family%20Programs%20and%20Resources%20Guide18-19.pdf

List of all specialized classrooms here: https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/FTP%20Vertical.pdf

I think PP meant they put those kids at the school but didn’t provide additional support or services. I don’t think dump is offensive because DCPS has a terrible track record with special needs students. Honestly, they suck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who said something about getting a Deal placement, it is not the promised land. As a Deal parent, I'm not certain bullying is dealt with much better there. I have heard (from my kid and other parents) many stories about kids being beat up, kicked, pushed into lockers, pushed down stairs, etc. Look at the recent thread on Deal behavior about a student's hair almost being caught on fire. The school does little to nothing about addressing this behavior and claims their hands are tied. You have to file a police report which, when dealing with children 11-14 years old, is just heartbreaking.

Shhhh it's a secret, happens at Deal too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

NP. The second point is NOT delusional. Where do mass shootings take place? All that I'm aware of have been in suburbs with different demographics, not urban city centers.

YET.

Sure it's not out of the question, but based on prior history this statistically rare event is more likely to happen in the suburbs.

Most urban districts have metal detectors at each entrance that everyone passes thru each day. So the odds are fairly low that someone can actually bring a weapon inside of a DCPS school. Charters are very different. I haven't been in a charter that has the same amount of security as DCPS schools.

In DC, every middle and high school is mandated to have a metal detector by law. They are strict too. My son had a fork confiscated that I put in his lunch.

DCPS and DCPCS? Because my DC’s charter school doesn’t not have them and I have sent real (gasp) silverware in the lunch box. Forks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS struggles to provide a safe learning environment. Not sure what the issue is. Don’t they have an alternative school for kids who have bad behavioral issues? Or was this unique to my school district growing up?

They do have alternative school for kids with behavioral issues or who are caught doing things like drug dealing on campus. Placement can be a lengthy process, however.

Well, EH is a slated school for kids with behavior problems. DCPS decided to dump a bunch of kids on them because they weren’t enrolled at capacity. So there’s that.

How do you know that? Links?

NP. The term 'dumping' is offensive.

EH - and several other schools - are home to designated self-contained "Behavioral and Educational Support Programs" classrooms.

Description of BES - Full-time special education classrooms are highly structured and supportive with low student to staff ratios. All classrooms are staffed with certified special education teachers and instructional paraprofessionals. Academic
instruction is aligned to the Common Core State Standards and the DCPS Scope and Sequence. Some students access the general education curriculum, while others are provided with a modified curriculum. In all classes, interventions
supplement the general education curriculum and the modified curriculum. Specially trained and certified related service providers support the needs of the students in accordance with their IEP. Some students participate in the
standard state assessment with accommodations, while others participate in alternate state assessments.

Full-Time Programs:

• Behavior & Education Support (BES): Supports students who have been identified with an emotional disability or who have challenging behaviors and require a more therapeutic environment. ([e-mail]) https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/Family%20Programs%20and%20Resources%20Guide18-19.pdf

List of all specialized classrooms here: https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/FTP%20Vertical.pdf

I think PP meant they put those kids at the school but didn’t provide additional support or services. I don’t think dump is offensive because DCPS has a terrible track record with special needs students. Honestly, they suck!

PP here who used that term. Exactly. The kids are not in self-contained classrooms. EH does have those, in fact, one of my kids is on one of them. They are not the problem. The lack of additional support in regular classrooms with kids with behavioral issues is. There aren’t enough support services for those kids. In theory there should be but that’s not the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you keep your kids in a school district like this? Is your row house & walking commute really worth it?

- Kid can walk to school rather than being ferried around in an SUV everywhere.
- Kid has friends they've known since PK3
- Tight-knit community outside of school.
- Bullying in middle school is universal.
- If my kid is killed or seriously injured, it's going to be in a car in the suburbs.
- (Ironically) Don't have to worry about mass school shootings.

We've always planned to leave when it stops working; fortunately for our family, it hasn't stopped working yet.

Oh, and the walking commute is a nice perk.

As to your first bolder point, bullying may be universal, but ongoing violence is most definitely NOT.

Your second bolded point is just delusional.

NP. The second point is NOT delusional. Where do mass shootings take place? All that I'm aware of have been in suburbs with different demographics, not urban city centers.

YET.

Sure it's not out of the question, but based on prior history this statistically rare event is more likely to happen in the suburbs.

Most urban districts have metal detectors at each entrance that everyone passes thru each day. So the odds are fairly low that someone can actually bring a weapon inside of a DCPS school. Charters are very different. I haven't been in a charter that has the same amount of security as DCPS schools.

In DC, every middle and high school is mandated to have a metal detector by law. They are strict too. My son had a fork confiscated that I put in his lunch.

DCPS and DCPCS? Because my DC’s charter school doesn’t not have them and I have sent real (gasp) silverware in the lunch box. Forks!

DCPS. No idea what goes on at charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle school is rough all around.

Yep, my kid gets subjected to racial taunting every single day at their DCPS MS. There are no repercussions whatsoever.

What is their race?