Ticket for not stopping for a school bus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.


It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

The FBI agrees with you.

Google

WTOP CEO of company that outfitted Montgomery Co. school buses with cameras pleads guilty to federal fraud charges

and

bus camera montgomery county force multiplier $6.4M fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't they flash yellow before flashing red? You should have had time to stop...

Maybe. Maybe the bus driver flashes yellow for the required distance or maybe she only does it for a few feet. There is a law about
when the yellow is to go on, but the bus driver has to follow that law.

You really have a thing for the school bus threads today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.

It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

The FBI agrees with you.

Google

WTOP CEO of company that outfitted Montgomery Co. school buses with cameras pleads guilty to federal fraud charges

and

bus camera montgomery county force multiplier $6.4M fine

The guy bribed a public official, and not one in Montgomery County. That doesn’t make it OK to pass a stopped school bus in Montgomery County.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/08/ceo-of-company-that-outfitted-montgomery-co-school-buses-with-cameras-pleads-guilty-to-federal-fraud-charges/

[Anonymous]

Happened to me too. Four lane road (East Jefferson) plus a turning lane in the middle, I was in the far lane and sign started coming out just as I passed (I caught it out of the corner of my eye). In most states (including where I took drives ed) you don’t have to stop in that situation. In MD you do. I paid, but am still angry about it. I feel like a cop would have given a wRning at most in that situation but with cameras you are screwed. I’m normally all for strict school bus laws, but that situation was pretty ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Happened to me too. Four lane road (East Jefferson) plus a turning lane in the middle, I was in the far lane and sign started coming out just as I passed (I caught it out of the corner of my eye). In most states (including where I took drives ed) you don’t have to stop in that situation. In MD you do. I paid, but am still angry about it. I feel like a cop would have given a wRning at most in that situation but with cameras you are screwed. I’m normally all for strict school bus laws, but that situation was pretty ridiculous.

That is not Maryland law. The bus driver must put on yellow warning lights 100 feet before stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.

It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

The FBI agrees with you.

Google

WTOP CEO of company that outfitted Montgomery Co. school buses with cameras pleads guilty to federal fraud charges

and

bus camera montgomery county force multiplier $6.4M fine

The guy bribed a public official, and not one in Montgomery County. That doesn’t make it OK to pass a stopped school bus in Montgomery County.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/08/ceo-of-company-that-outfitted-montgomery-co-school-buses-with-cameras-pleads-guilty-to-federal-fraud-charges/

Says who? Same company. Same guy. Same scam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got one for "passing" a school bus on the other side of a two lane road with a 30ft wide grass median with creek running down the middle of it! There was no possible way a kid could've gotten from the bus to in front of my car without getting in the creek up to his knees. Still got a ticket though.


It's a scam. Just like speed cameras.

The physical median between the lanes would be a deciding factor on whether or no the citation was lawful or not, dependent on state statute, of course.

If it's not a cement median, it doesn't count. I got a ticket on Leeburg Pike where buses definitely don't allow kids to cross to the opposite side because of heavy traffic and multiple lanes on both sides. There was a cement median, then a wide painted middle strip and back to a cement median. Because I passed in the painted section I was ticketed. I went to court, paid a fine, had the charge reduced and got no points because I had a good driving record. No matter how big the road is, if it's not a highway, assume you should stop.

I didn't know that grass medians don't count. Good to know.

My only issue with school busses is that the one serving my neighborhood parks in the entrance to the neighborhood (blocking the crossroad) even when waiting with doors closed and lights off. Otherwise, happy to stop.

[Anonymous]

It is all water under the bridge now but for what it’s worth if you had stopped abruptly and someone had run into you you would not have been at fault. The person driving behind you would have been at fault.

Signed,

A person who has both rear ended people who have stopped abruptly and a person who has been at rear ended because I myself stopped abruptly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:treat a school bus like a stale green light, predict it to change.

This exactly!