TJ Class of 2018 College Acceptance Data

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Anonymous wrote:For the supposed top 1% of Fairfax County intellectually most are going to UVA. That's frankly pathetic

Again most would have been better off at their base school

You are clueless. Many families are doughnut hole and can’t afford elite schools. This isn’t private school money.

And I agree that getting into a specific set of colleges is not the point of TJ. The point is the amazing learning opportunities and peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the supposed top 1% of Fairfax County intellectually most are going to UVA. That's frankly pathetic

Again most would have been better off at their base school

You are clueless. Many families are doughnut hole and can’t afford elite schools. This isn’t private school money.

And I agree that getting into a specific set of colleges is not the point of TJ. The point is the amazing learning opportunities and peers.

That won’t cut it for the shameless front runners.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

I heard something similar from W&M when they tracked performance longitudinally. TJ graduates perform really well. I wonder why, then, UVA seems to be trying to be more selective with TJ graduates. They weren't as selective a few years ago. It could be just a general increase in selectivity, but if they perform better than any other school, why would you not want more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

I heard something similar from W&M when they tracked performance longitudinally. TJ graduates perform really well. I wonder why, then, UVA seems to be trying to be more selective with TJ graduates. They weren't as selective a few years ago. It could be just a general increase in selectivity, but if they perform better than any other school, why would you not want more?

Because if the universit only serves students from No Virginia, or most of its No Virginia students are from one high school it would lose its remaining political support and funding from the legislature. It would also have a very imbalanced study body.

It isn't CMU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

This is wrong. Schools that only use the FAFSA do not consider cost of living. But the elite privates (NECSAC) that calculate based on a combination of the CSS and their own formulas do care where you come from, how much your home is worth (and how much remains to be paid) and other factors that the income-only FAFSA doesn't take into account.

Of course what they think you can pay, and what you think you can or should pay, can be very different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

Ridiculous. Over 1/3 of TJ kids applied to Cornell. The reason more are not attending Ivies is because they were not accepted. They applied and were not accepted, period. Ask the over TJ kids who applied to UVA and were rejected if TJ was such a great idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

Don't forget that about 70% of TJ grads are Asian Americans and Asian Americans have tougher time (discrimination based on race) gaining acceptances to top colleges and universities. Wonder why Harvard's acceptances for TJ jumped almost 100% to 10 (2018) from about 5-6 for the past ~10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

Ridiculous. Over 1/3 of TJ kids applied to Cornell. The reason more are not attending Ivies is because they were not accepted. They applied and were not accepted, period. Ask the over TJ kids who applied to UVA and were rejected if TJ was such a great idea.

Many TJ grads ultimately follow the scholarship or merit aid. Our son's graduating class few years back had about 52 million dollars (according to the school official at graduation) in scholarship money. These are scholarships in connection with Jefferson scholars, Regents Scholars, Robertson Scholars, Stamp Scholars and many other full rides or almost full rides.

There was a grad who chose UVA over Harvard primarily for scholarship, another grad who chose W&M over Oxford (lower tuition/scholarship), another who chose USNA over an elite university, another grad who chose UC Berkeley (scholarship) over top 10 school etc.

[Anonymous]

Oxford for what subject though? I’m intrigued because three years plus one year study abroad (deeply discounted by Oxford) with international student status is roughly the same total cost as four years at W&M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

I heard something similar from W&M when they tracked performance longitudinally. TJ graduates perform really well. I wonder why, then, UVA seems to be trying to be more selective with TJ graduates. They weren't as selective a few years ago. It could be just a general increase in selectivity, but if they perform better than any other school, why would you not want more?

Because if the universit only serves students from No Virginia, or most of its No Virginia students are from one high school it would lose its remaining political support and funding from the legislature. It would also have a very imbalanced study body.

It isn't CMU

You are probably correct on political reasons, but that is obviously not meritocratic. And since TJ draws from the region, it has the same NOVA vs. ROVA implications as any other NOVA school. So ironically attending TJ might decrease likelihood of UVA admit, while perhaps boosting for IVY+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

I heard something similar from W&M when they tracked performance longitudinally. TJ graduates perform really well. I wonder why, then, UVA seems to be trying to be more selective with TJ graduates. They weren't as selective a few years ago. It could be just a general increase in selectivity, but if they perform better than any other school, why would you not want more?

Because if the universit only serves students from No Virginia, or most of its No Virginia students are from one high school it would lose its remaining political support and funding from the legislature. It would also have a very imbalanced study body.

It isn't CMU

You are probably correct on political reasons, but that is obviously not meritocratic. And since TJ draws from the region, it has the same NOVA vs. ROVA implications as any other NOVA school. So ironically attending TJ might decrease likelihood of UVA admit, while perhaps boosting for IVY+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

Ridiculous. Over 1/3 of TJ kids applied to Cornell. The reason more are not attending Ivies is because they were not accepted. They applied and were not accepted, period. Ask the over TJ kids who applied to UVA and were rejected if TJ was such a great idea.

LOL, do you have a secret portal into everyone's personal information?

Ridiculous indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you know. I think you are stereotyping. It’s definitely the reason in our family.

+1. TJ is an amazzing education and a great peer group. Full stop. My kid has been pushed, has learned how to work and manage time, has learned how to write well, analyze critically, work in groups and perform high level science research. He has been pushed by some of the smartest kids in the nation. He can go anywhere and do well. There is a former UVA Dean out there who said he ran GPA by high school every year he was at UVA. And TJ was always the top school among American high schools with 10 or more kids enrolled. It’s not just getting into college. If my kid ends up at the exact same college he would have from his base school, or the exact same college as their base school sibling, TJ will still have been worth it. Because of the education and the peers. It’s about succeeding once DC gets to college, and getting into a good grad school.

Plus, we are donut hole family too. Lots and lots of TJ families are professional class and therefore do it hole. My kid is not allowed to take on undergrad debt, so my kid isn’t even applying to an Ivy or NEASC. No merit aid. A lot of their friends are in the same boat. Wealthy enough to pay for WM (35k a year, close to 150k total, is not chump change) but private (starting to hit 80k a year or 320k total). is not realistic? But, we are too wealthy in a high COL area to score need based aid. And colleges do not consider COL. DMV, rural ND— the calculation is the same. And we have to consider another kid, and the strong possibility of grad school.

An unlimited budget would be awesome. Telling my kid they can go to any college they want, finances be damned, wouldalso be amazing. But you have to be pretty out of touch to think that 80k/year x 2 kids plus maybe helping with grad school is most peoples’ reality. Most people consider merit aid or stick to VA Public’s. That is reflected in the TJ college list.

I heard something similar from W&M when they tracked performance longitudinally. TJ graduates perform really well. I wonder why, then, UVA seems to be trying to be more selective with TJ graduates. They weren't as selective a few years ago. It could be just a general increase in selectivity, but if they perform better than any other school, why would you not want more?

Because if the universit only serves students from No Virginia, or most of its No Virginia students are from one high school it would lose its remaining political support and funding from the legislature. It would also have a very imbalanced study body.

It isn't CMU

You are probably correct on political reasons, but that is obviously not meritocratic. And since TJ draws from the region, it has the same NOVA vs. ROVA implications as any other NOVA school. So ironically attending TJ might decrease likelihood of UVA admit, while perhaps boosting for IVY+.

I wonder if having TJ makes it harder for students from other schools in NOVA. Do colleges assume that a high percentage of the best students are skimmed off by TJ and, as a result, discount the achievements of students at the schools these kids have left behind? Or does TJ act like a rising tide and raise all boats?