DC School Report Cards are up

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Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds is worse that I expected. Their special needs students actually measure twice as high than school average. White students less than black students and half as well as school average. Is there a school in DC where this is showing? White students perform the same as at risk population.

Yes. LAMB, Yu Ying also showing very low numbers for white students. I am trying to understand this metric better. Disabled students showing very high numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds is worse that I expected. Their special needs students actually measure twice as high than school average. White students less than black students and half as well as school average. Is there a school in DC where this is showing? White students perform the same as at risk population.

aren't they a 3

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Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds is worse that I expected. Their special needs students actually measure twice as high than school average. White students less than black students and half as well as school average. Is there a school in DC where this is showing? White students perform the same as at risk population.

aren't they a 3

The middle school is a 3. The elementary school is a 2.

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Deal feeders, at risk %

Janney 5, 0% 88.43, 70.10
Hearst 4, 8% 77.32, 60.95
Murch 4, 5% 79.85, 58.63
Lafayette 4, 3% 78.00, 69.25
Shepherd 4, 15% 71.61, 76.25
Bancroft 4, 31% 80.16, < 10 AA students

PP here. I was interested in how AA students perform at these schools. I've added the Star Framework score for all students, followed by score for black students, for each school.

Overall, it looks like Shepherd has the best score for AA students. However, they don't offer breakdowns for "at-risk" etc. within subgroups, and so it's unclear whether the higher score at Shepherd is attributable to something about instruction, demographic factors, or a combination.

I did this quickly, but hopefully no errors.

Oh, and forgot to add, it's curious why the score for AA students at Shepherd is actually higher than the score for all students--this is the only Deal feeder where that is true. I need to read a fuller description of how these scores were calculated.

Um why do you find that curious? Do you know anything about Shepherd and the families that live in that neighborhood, or do you just assume that all AAs underperform compared to whites?

PP here. I'm black, IB for Shepherd, and was actively involved while my kid attended for several years, so I'm familiar with the student body. The reason I said it's "curious" is because Shepherd is actually 57% OOB, 15% at-risk, and 2% homeless--so it's a very mixed, SES-diverse student body.

This data point would suggest to me that there's something about the instruction at Shepherd that's leading to higher ratings among the black students relative to any other Deal feeder, but I'm interested to hear other possible explanations too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you actually just list all the schools by their scores, instead of seeing them just sorted by star?

And, I'm confused about how the breakdown of the score by demographic is achieved. For our school All Students is higher than the actual score; also various demographics have their own scores but they don't seem to average to All Students - ?

There is weighting involved in the subgroups (e.g. I know that students with disabilities are weighted 2x as much as ELLs or students with disabilities).

For the details you need to dig into the Framework Technical guide https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2018-19%20DC%20School%20Report%20Card%20and%20STAR%20Framework%20Technical%20Guide.pdf

Wait what? They’re assigning more value to some students?

My understanding is that one of the inputs to the STAR rating is a student groups score, which is a required element in the ESSA. In DC the student groups are: All Students, At-risk students , English Learners , Students with disabilities snf Race/ethnicity

Far more detail is in the Technical Guide, pg 60.

Bottom line - the STAR ratings are more complex than just straight PARCC proficiency and growth scores. Whether they are more useful, time will tell.

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Deal feeders, at risk %

Janney 5, 0% 88.43, 70.10
Hearst 4, 8% 77.32, 60.95
Murch 4, 5% 79.85, 58.63
Lafayette 4, 3% 78.00, 69.25
Shepherd 4, 15% 71.61, 76.25
Bancroft 4, 31% 80.16, < 10 AA students

PP here. I was interested in how AA students perform at these schools. I've added the Star Framework score for all students, followed by score for black students, for each school.

Overall, it looks like Shepherd has the best score for AA students. However, they don't offer breakdowns for "at-risk" etc. within subgroups, and so it's unclear whether the higher score at Shepherd is attributable to something about instruction, demographic factors, or a combination.

I did this quickly, but hopefully no errors.

Oh, and forgot to add, it's curious why the score for AA students at Shepherd is actually higher than the score for all students--this is the only Deal feeder where that is true. I need to read a fuller description of how these scores were calculated.

Um why do you find that curious? Do you know anything about Shepherd and the families that live in that neighborhood, or do you just assume that all AAs underperform compared to whites?

PP here. I'm black, IB for Shepherd, and was actively involved while my kid attended for several years, so I'm familiar with the student body. The reason I said it's "curious" is because Shepherd is actually 57% OOB, 15% at-risk, and 2% homeless--so it's a very mixed, SES-diverse student body.

This data point would suggest to me that there's something about the instruction at Shepherd that's leading to higher ratings among the black students relative to any other Deal feeder, but I'm interested to hear other possible explanations too.

A couple thoughts - Shepherd has a different curriculum (IB PYP) than the other feeders.

Pure conjecture -- it may also be that AA children, because they are not the minority group at Shepherd the way they are elsewhere, are not subjected to as much implicit bias as happens at schools everywhere when they are the minority.

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Two Ward 5 elementary schools rank the same (3) as the nearby popular charters that siphon off their IB students.

Maybe this will system will help neighborhood schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Two Ward 5 elementary schools rank the same (3) as the nearby popular charters that siphon off their IB students.

Maybe this will system will help neighborhood schools?

It should, and it should push the charters to do better. Name the schools?

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Deal feeders, at risk %

Janney 5, 0% 88.43, 70.10
Hearst 4, 8% 77.32, 60.95
Murch 4, 5% 79.85, 58.63
Lafayette 4, 3% 78.00, 69.25
Shepherd 4, 15% 71.61, 76.25
Bancroft 4, 31% 80.16, < 10 AA students

PP here. I was interested in how AA students perform at these schools. I've added the Star Framework score for all students, followed by score for black students, for each school.

Overall, it looks like Shepherd has the best score for AA students. However, they don't offer breakdowns for "at-risk" etc. within subgroups, and so it's unclear whether the higher score at Shepherd is attributable to something about instruction, demographic factors, or a combination.

I did this quickly, but hopefully no errors.

Oh, and forgot to add, it's curious why the score for AA students at Shepherd is actually higher than the score for all students--this is the only Deal feeder where that is true. I need to read a fuller description of how these scores were calculated.

Um why do you find that curious? Do you know anything about Shepherd and the families that live in that neighborhood, or do you just assume that all AAs underperform compared to whites?

PP here. I'm black, IB for Shepherd, and was actively involved while my kid attended for several years, so I'm familiar with the student body. The reason I said it's "curious" is because Shepherd is actually 57% OOB, 15% at-risk, and 2% homeless--so it's a very mixed, SES-diverse student body.

This data point would suggest to me that there's something about the instruction at Shepherd that's leading to higher ratings among the black students relative to any other Deal feeder, but I'm interested to hear other possible explanations too.

A couple thoughts - Shepherd has a different curriculum (IB PYP) than the other feeders.

Pure conjecture -- it may also be that AA children, because they are not the minority group at Shepherd the way they are elsewhere, are not subjected to as much implicit bias as happens at schools everywhere when they are the minority.

Doesn't Shepherd have a much higher proportion of UMC black families than the other feeders?

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Anonymous wrote:

Deal feeders, at risk %

Janney 5, 0% 88.43, 70.10
Hearst 4, 8% 77.32, 60.95
Murch 4, 5% 79.85, 58.63
Lafayette 4, 3% 78.00, 69.25
Shepherd 4, 15% 71.61, 76.25
Bancroft 4, 31% 80.16, < 10 AA students

PP here. I was interested in how AA students perform at these schools. I've added the Star Framework score for all students, followed by score for black students, for each school.

Overall, it looks like Shepherd has the best score for AA students. However, they don't offer breakdowns for "at-risk" etc. within subgroups, and so it's unclear whether the higher score at Shepherd is attributable to something about instruction, demographic factors, or a combination.

I did this quickly, but hopefully no errors.

Oh, and forgot to add, it's curious why the score for AA students at Shepherd is actually higher than the score for all students--this is the only Deal feeder where that is true. I need to read a fuller description of how these scores were calculated.

Um why do you find that curious? Do you know anything about Shepherd and the families that live in that neighborhood, or do you just assume that all AAs underperform compared to whites?

PP here. I'm black, IB for Shepherd, and was actively involved while my kid attended for several years, so I'm familiar with the student body. The reason I said it's "curious" is because Shepherd is actually 57% OOB, 15% at-risk, and 2% homeless--so it's a very mixed, SES-diverse student body.

This data point would suggest to me that there's something about the instruction at Shepherd that's leading to higher ratings among the black students relative to any other Deal feeder, but I'm interested to hear other possible explanations too.

A couple thoughts - Shepherd has a different curriculum (IB PYP) than the other feeders.

Pure conjecture -- it may also be that AA children, because they are not the minority group at Shepherd the way they are elsewhere, are not subjected to as much implicit bias as happens at schools everywhere when they are the minority.

PP here and I had a similar thought. I've heard from AA friends at other popular DCPS schools that their children were occasionally assumed to be trouble-makers, assumed poor, etc. etc. I'm biased, but Shepherd, in contrast, kinda has a family feel, and I'd imagine less implicit bias among teachers/staff.

Interesting possibility to account for the scores, although of course we'd need more data before we can conclude that implicit bias translates to a measurable decrease in scores for AA children at some schools..

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Anonymous wrote:Two Ward 5 elementary schools rank the same (3) as the nearby popular charters that siphon off their IB students.

Maybe this will system will help neighborhood schools?

It should, and it should push the charters to do better. Name the schools?

Langdon got 4 stars but I have my doubts. It seems like a lot of this data is just not correct.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Deal feeders, at risk %

Janney 5, 0% 88.43, 70.10
Hearst 4, 8% 77.32, 60.95
Murch 4, 5% 79.85, 58.63
Lafayette 4, 3% 78.00, 69.25
Shepherd 4, 15% 71.61, 76.25
Bancroft 4, 31% 80.16, < 10 AA students

PP here. I was interested in how AA students perform at these schools. I've added the Star Framework score for all students, followed by score for black students, for each school.

Overall, it looks like Shepherd has the best score for AA students. However, they don't offer breakdowns for "at-risk" etc. within subgroups, and so it's unclear whether the higher score at Shepherd is attributable to something about instruction, demographic factors, or a combination.

I did this quickly, but hopefully no errors.

Oh, and forgot to add, it's curious why the score for AA students at Shepherd is actually higher than the score for all students--this is the only Deal feeder where that is true. I need to read a fuller description of how these scores were calculated.

Um why do you find that curious? Do you know anything about Shepherd and the families that live in that neighborhood, or do you just assume that all AAs underperform compared to whites?

PP here. I'm black, IB for Shepherd, and was actively involved while my kid attended for several years, so I'm familiar with the student body. The reason I said it's "curious" is because Shepherd is actually 57% OOB, 15% at-risk, and 2% homeless--so it's a very mixed, SES-diverse student body.

This data point would suggest to me that there's something about the instruction at Shepherd that's leading to higher ratings among the black students relative to any other Deal feeder, but I'm interested to hear other possible explanations too.

Ok sorry, you never know around here Don't you think it's a big part that AA students at Shepherd are from high SES families that value education?

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Anonymous wrote:Overall comment - there is a lot of data here.

Forget the stars, you can definitely dig in and see how different students are doing on a range of measures.

I like these. They seem helpful.

-parent, no OSSE affiliation

Agreed- this is the best thing I have ever seen out of OSSE.

Is it? It lists Janney as Title I, and a lot of schools have no Kindergarten kids at all.

Eaton is also listed as Title 1 and it says before and aftercare are free. Someone messed up some pretty basic facts on these.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall comment - there is a lot of data here.

Forget the stars, you can definitely dig in and see how different students are doing on a range of measures.

I like these. They seem helpful.

-parent, no OSSE affiliation

Agreed- this is the best thing I have ever seen out of OSSE.

Is it? It lists Janney as Title I, and a lot of schools have no Kindergarten kids at all.

Eaton is also listed as Title 1 and it says before and aftercare are free. Someone messed up some pretty basic facts on these.

All the WOTP elementaries I looked at listed free before and after care, so that detail seems wrong at several schools.