Holding APS Leadership, Staff and School Board Accountable for the Boundary Mess

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Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Seriously. For all of the hate that Henry gets for their failed fight to stay together, at least they never wavered from speaking for ALL of their students. #FairlingtonUnited is so transparent as to be offensive to the non-Fairlington Abingdon kids. Notice it was NEVER #AbingdonUnited...

You can’t honestly be this simple?
Henry= “fighting” to stay together didn’t hurt their educational outcomes/property values
Abingdon= fighting for better educational outcomes and property values

I’m sorry, did you not see that 1/5 of Henry is at Drew next year? You’re honestly going to tell me that now being zoned to a total unknown but historically low-performing school ISN’T going to hurt my property value or possibly kids’ educational outcome?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Seriously. For all of the hate that Henry gets for their failed fight to stay together, at least they never wavered from speaking for ALL of their students. #FairlingtonUnited is so transparent as to be offensive to the non-Fairlington Abingdon kids. Notice it was NEVER #AbingdonUnited...

You can’t honestly be this simple?
Henry= “fighting” to stay together didn’t hurt their educational outcomes/property values
Abingdon= fighting for better educational outcomes and property values

I don’t get all the hate between CH and SF. Aren’t both communities just advocating for what’s in each of their respective best interests, which is basic human nature? Do CH or SF members really think they would have behaved differently in each other’s shoes? It’s the maps and policies that put the communities in a zero sum position and hasn’t been supporting Drew or implementing programs that would make the school an acceptable alternative to CH or SF current schools. Both the communities may wind up in the same district in 2020 (or their kids in middle school together later on) so the hate seems counterproductive.

I don’t hate South Fairlington, and can’t say I would have done differently in their situation. It’s neither here nor there at this point, but I think their arguments are disingenuous. Abingdon is more than just Fairlington. I doubt we will ever be in the same middle school zone, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Seriously. For all of the hate that Henry gets for their failed fight to stay together, at least they never wavered from speaking for ALL of their students. #FairlingtonUnited is so transparent as to be offensive to the non-Fairlington Abingdon kids. Notice it was NEVER #AbingdonUnited...

You can’t honestly be this simple?
Henry= “fighting” to stay together didn’t hurt their educational outcomes/property values
Abingdon= fighting for better educational outcomes and property values

I don’t get all the hate between CH and SF. Aren’t both communities just advocating for what’s in each of their respective best interests, which is basic human nature? Do CH or SF members really think they would have behaved differently in each other’s shoes? It’s the maps and policies that put the communities in a zero sum position and hasn’t been supporting Drew or implementing programs that would make the school an acceptable alternative to CH or SF current schools. Both the communities may wind up in the same district in 2020 (or their kids in middle school together later on) so the hate seems counterproductive.

I don’t hate South Fairlington, and can’t say I would have done differently in their situation. It’s neither here nor there at this point, but I think their arguments are disingenuous. Abingdon is more than just Fairlington. I doubt we will ever be in the same middle school zone, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Seriously. For all of the hate that Henry gets for their failed fight to stay together, at least they never wavered from speaking for ALL of their students. #FairlingtonUnited is so transparent as to be offensive to the non-Fairlington Abingdon kids. Notice it was NEVER #AbingdonUnited...

You can’t honestly be this simple?
Henry= “fighting” to stay together didn’t hurt their educational outcomes/property values
Abingdon= fighting for better educational outcomes and property values

I’m sorry, did you not see that 1/5 of Henry is at Drew next year? You’re honestly going to tell me that now being zoned to a total unknown but historically low-performing school ISN’T going to hurt my property value or possibly kids’ educational outcome?

I’m sorry you misunderstand. I totally think it will suck for you, I just don’t care. And I certainly don’t think sacrificing a school on the cusp of improvement (Abingdon)for 1/5 of Henry is acceptable. We need MORE schools the middle class will send their elementary aged children to, not less. I’m not in either zone, so I have no particular axe to grind. I just want to see another good neighborhood school in South Arlington. I’m sorry you won’t be zoned to one of them, but you have other options if you don’t want Drew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

How about some support for the non-AH diehards in these neighborhoods and who actually send their kids to these neighborhood schools? How about standing up for them and helping them advocate for different policies and for school boundary policies and decisions that help?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

How about some support for the non-AH diehards in these neighborhoods and who actually send their kids to these neighborhood schools? How about standing up for them and helping them advocate for different policies and for school boundary policies and decisions that help?

They are going to have their be willing to fight their own neighbors first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

Gotta link? I love a good skewering

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

Gotta link? I love a good skewering

I live in CF and I honestly don't know what you are talking about. So yes, a link would be interesting.

[Anonymous]

The reality is that there's only so much land in Arlington, the schools are where they are and the people are where they are. The affordable housing is built where it is, and the school board had no say in that. I wouldn't have been anywhere near as nice about "listening about the community staying together" if I had been drawing the maps. Minimizing the need for buses, proximity to home, and some safety concerns would have been it. I live in gerrymandered North Arlington and my kid goes to a school miles in the wrong direction when I can walk to one school and drive past two others to get there. Can't wait for them to wipe it out, although my kid will be done by then. I don't care if my kid goes to school with rich kids, poor kids, white kids, or brown kids. They're all good schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not concerned whatsoever about holding this Board accountable. They screwed up, big time. I'm sure it was a cover up, but now I'm zoned to Drew so I'll focus on trying to make that school better.

This Board is their own worst enemy. They fall victim to their stupidity. There is not much we can do to change that and they are not accountable to anyone.

I do hope SF gets totally $ucked in 2020.

Didn’t you hear last night from one of the totally pointless SF speakers “supporting” map 6.1-A? They are trying to convince the county to turn SF into a walk zone for Abingdon so they’re not on the chopping block in 2020. They swear that they can find “community” ways to get all of their kids to school without buses.

Good for them. Sounds like an engaged community, fighting for their school.

If by "fighting for their school" you mean "manipulating public policy to ensure that the only solution to overcrowding is to lop off all the affordable housing in their school's boundary", then yes, I agree.

Uh yeah. Good for them. They are working within the framework and not pretending the “progressive excellence” of Arlington will
Magically solve their problems.
Besides I know for a fact some hardcore AH policy wonks live in CF. They can lie in the bed they’ve made.

Wait a minute. All I hear on these threads is how AH advocates are all limousine liberals who live in NA, tucked safely away from the riff raff they force upon SA. Now I’m hearing they actually live in neighborhoods that “allowed” a giant CAF to be built off Columbia Pike in their neighborhood?? Like... so they’re neighbors??? I’m so terribly, terribly confused...

You haven’t been reading enough. Plenty of posts about being people being skewered on the listserv by dyed in the wool believers within these neighborhoods. Barcroft and CF especially. It’s why I have no sympathy.

How about some support for the non-AH diehards in these neighborhoods and who actually send their kids to these neighborhood schools? How about standing up for them and helping them advocate for different policies and for school boundary policies and decisions that help?

They are going to have their be willing to fight their own neighbors first.

They HAVE been!!!!! But they are fighting the AH advocates who are strongly linked with those limousine liberals in the privileged and thriving neighborhoods and serving on the CB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that there's only so much land in Arlington, the schools are where they are and the people are where they are. The affordable housing is built where it is, and the school board had no say in that. I wouldn't have been anywhere near as nice about "listening about the community staying together" if I had been drawing the maps. Minimizing the need for buses, proximity to home, and some safety concerns would have been it. I live in gerrymandered North Arlington and my kid goes to a school miles in the wrong direction when I can walk to one school and drive past two others to get there. Can't wait for them to wipe it out, although my kid will be done by then. I don't care if my kid goes to school with rich kids, poor kids, white kids, or brown kids. They're all good schools.

Duck and cover!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that there's only so much land in Arlington, the schools are where they are and the people are where they are. The affordable housing is built where it is, and the school board had no say in that. I wouldn't have been anywhere near as nice about "listening about the community staying together" if I had been drawing the maps. Minimizing the need for buses, proximity to home, and some safety concerns would have been it. I live in gerrymandered North Arlington and my kid goes to a school miles in the wrong direction when I can walk to one school and drive past two others to get there. Can't wait for them to wipe it out, although my kid will be done by then. I don't care if my kid goes to school with rich kids, poor kids, white kids, or brown kids. They're all good schools.

Ashlawn? That’s a pretty ridiculous boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reality is that there's only so much land in Arlington, the schools are where they are and the people are where they are. The affordable housing is built where it is, and the school board had no say in that. I wouldn't have been anywhere near as nice about "listening about the community staying together" if I had been drawing the maps. Minimizing the need for buses, proximity to home, and some safety concerns would have been it. I live in gerrymandered North Arlington and my kid goes to a school miles in the wrong direction when I can walk to one school and drive past two others to get there. Can't wait for them to wipe it out, although my kid will be done by then. I don't care if my kid goes to school with rich kids, poor kids, white kids, or brown kids. They're all good schools.

Ashlawn? That’s a pretty ridiculous boundary.

It’s not like pp didn’t know the boundary when they bought. Hear that northie? You should have thought about schools before you bought your house.