Best way to prep for the IAAT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's an aptitude test, not a skills test. I teach middle school algebra. PLEASE don't prep for this test. If your child has to prep to score high enough, algebra is probably going to be a rough road.

“Probably” is the key word here.

You know your kid best.

This.

-- mom of teens now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

[Anonymous]

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+1 I'm not against test prep generally -- I think it's good to prep for SAT/ACT; I can understand why people who think their child will get a more appropriate education in AAP prep for the Cogat. But prepping for the IAAT really doesn't make sense. It's not a hurdle to get over; it's a diagnostic for readiness. It's a really easy test for any kid who is ready to take algebra--the 91% bar is really too low. There are only disadvantages if you take algebra before you're ready and no upside--you'll struggle in that class, get lower grades (that go on your HS record) and then have to take a higher sequence of math to meet the 4 year requirement many colleges want and likely get lower grades in that.

The SAT is also a measure of college readiness, so you shouldn't prep for that either by your logic.

I prepped my kid for IAAT, and he is getting As in the class. I suspect he would not have passed without the prep, but no way to know for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's an aptitude test, not a skills test. I teach middle school algebra. PLEASE don't prep for this test. If your child has to prep to score high enough, algebra is probably going to be a rough road.

Imagine if this attitude existed in sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an aptitude test, not a skills test. I teach middle school algebra. PLEASE don't prep for this test. If your child has to prep to score high enough, algebra is probably going to be a rough road.

Imagine if this attitude existed in sports.

I agree with the overall sentiment. In some cases it doesn't apply though. I advised one parent to appeal to get into algebra, because probably his kid is capable, but he did not score well enough on the pretest to be eligible.

[Anonymous]

There is an IAAT book you can buy on amazon .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

No, they're not.

Also, thinking that 43/60 is the 91st percentile shows you lack mathematical sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

No, they're not.

Also, thinking that 43/60 is the 91st percentile shows you lack mathematical sense.

43/60 could be the 91st percentile. 30/60 could be the 91st percentile is the test is hard enough for the norming population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

No, they're not.

Also, thinking that 43/60 is the 91st percentile shows you lack mathematical sense.

What are you even talking about? The post stating that 43/60 is the 91st percentile is from over 3 years ago. The PP is long gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's an aptitude test, not a skills test. I teach middle school algebra. PLEASE don't prep for this test. If your child has to prep to score high enough, algebra is probably going to be a rough road.

Imagine if this attitude existed in sports.

Ya, ignore them. They just don't want others to do well, so they intentionally dispense bad advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

No, they're not.

Also, thinking that 43/60 is the 91st percentile shows you lack mathematical sense.

What are you even talking about? The post stating that 43/60 is the 91st percentile is from over 3 years ago. The PP is long gone.

For what it's worth - my DD got a 95% and I requested a copy of the raw data from the school. She got a 52/60.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

That link is for IARA, not IAAT. They’re different tests.

No, they're not.

Also, thinking that 43/60 is the 91st percentile shows you lack mathematical sense.

What are you even talking about? The post stating that 43/60 is the 91st percentile is from over 3 years ago. The PP is long gone.

For what it's worth - my DD got a 95% and I requested a copy of the raw data from the school. She got a 52/60.

... which is 100% consistent with tables A1/A2 in the IARA Interpretation Guide. IARA and IAAT are the same test and use the same conversion tables.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

What is your source for this claim (that the 91st percentile is 43/60)?

The University of Iowa's interpretation guide lists the 91% percentile as a SS of 170 (Table A2), and Table A1 shows that 50/60 corresponds to that SS. So the 91st percentile is 50 out of 60.

They're just trying to make their own kid look better by tearing down others. The prep war is on and pretending it isn't is only going to hurt your child's chances since they're are competing against many kids whose parents have sunk tens of thousands into outside enrichment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you need to prep, you shouldn't apply. Prepping is basically cheating. That spot should go to a kid with natural ability.

Spots? IAAT is used to determine readiness for Algebra. There are no spots to take away from anyone else.

That being said, you shouldn't prep. The bar for being permitted to take Algebra is generally pretty low (91st percentile in FCPS, which is around 43/60 correct). The IAAT tests fairly basic pre-algebra concepts and should be a trivial test for kids who are good at math and will do well in Algebra. If you have to prep to overcome this very very low bar, then Algebra is likely to be a nightmare. The goal should be to be placed in the correct math level, which isn't necessarily the highest and fastest one.

So what that 91st percentile is 43/60? The test makers have determined that at that point you’re ready for Algebra.

What’s your uneducated point?