Where do these jet setters afford all their travel?

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It’s an anonymous site so you can pretty much say what you want . However I reserve the right to doubt your claim that business/first class is waste of money . It maybe transient as you say but it is nonetheless excruciatingly unpleasant.Moreover, people who can afford business/first seats aren’t looking to save so they can afford more trips , so based on your comments you clearly seem to lack the means to afford that on a regular basis , therefore clearly not the target demographic . The idea that the flying experience on a long haul flight ( even short one) where you can’t even move your knees and run the risk of being trapped next to some mouth breathing morbidly overweight fellow in coach is the same as business class where you aren’t reduced to being the human version of canned sardines is the same is quite frankly pitiful

You do you, honey. I’ll spend my money on things that matter to me.

I’m not sure why you feel the need to insult others who don’t care to waste money on such things. That says a lot about you. It’s like you need to justify your spending to yourself. Do you fly business because you need to feel superior? Again, it’s your money. If that feeling is what you like when you fly, have at it. You way want to consider giving to charity.

The wealthy people (even by DCUM standards) I know fly coach and drive unassuming cars. We all have our priorities.

You’re quite the sad and strange creature , if stating the facts is insulting so be it . You’re desperately pushing the false narrative that coach and business are one of the same thing and such dishonesty should be vigorously contested .No! I’m not better than you because I can afford to fly business whenever I travel. I’d be damned if people like and your barely disguised envy and jealousy are not confronted. You keep insisting that it’s waste of money without providing verifiable and pertinent arguments as to why , of course it was only a matter of time before you brought in that tired trope of wealthy people driving unsssuming cars . You’re not even good at trolling .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1) insta and FB are curated - it’s what people want you to think of their life - not what their life really is - the exception are the influencers - but they’re a different subject

2) many of these “jet setters” are fakers (most are, just look at the data). They’re not living it up as much as it looks like. They’re taking budget flights, with multiple connections, with overstuffed carryons, sleeping at budget hotels and hostels, etc. they’re also prioritizing their spend to save for these trips.

3) if that’s what you want to do - do it too - image citation just takes time and desire. I’m taking a international trip with one of my “jet set” friends, and the difference is stark. My travel and accommodations budget is much more than his. I’m flying business, he’s in emailer economy on the same flight. I’m staying at 4 and 5 Star Hotels, he’ s budgeting. The difference is how I enjoy traveling vs how he enjoys it - but in the end, we’re going to the same place and seeing the same stuff. I’ll do this a couple tomes a year, he’ll take like 5 of these and be glamorous on insta...it’s all about projecting an image - and he enjoys it knowing he isn’t projecting reality

It isn’t faking to go to places on a budget. Staying in a 5 Star hotel does not enhance my experience. I could care less about flying business, waste of money. Like you said, he enjoys himself and sees all the same stuff you see. He is projecting reality, which is that I bet he is way more easygoing and fun to travel with!

NP , you’re missing a crucial element here, these people don’t go on social media bragging about their budget travels. It is curated in a way that lets the viewer know or at least have the image of someone living a life of insouciance and opulence . So yeah there’s a bit of faking going on there , either the culprit is aware or not .
Furthermore , I suspect you don’t fly business class regularly and I’m tempted to say I detect a little thinly veiled bitterness in your assertion that business class is a waste of money , these days airlines literally go out of their way to make travelling in coach as undignified and humiliating as possible and according to your very insightful assertion business class is waste of money ? Bro, you sound pathetic

Not the PP, but why in the world would it be humiliating to fly coach? I suppose we all prioritize things differently, but I have a small amount of pity for the folks who wasted money on something so transient. It’s your money to waste, so have at it. I’ve flown business and first class, but it isn’t worth the money to me. I’d rather take two trips than spend that much on airfare. To each their own.

You are my lost twin sister. I dragged my two kids all around the world,and yes, I even stayed with two young kids in the hostel in Portugal (and loved it!). I fly business for work trips, but would never splurged on business class for family vacations, even on a long flights to Turkey, Russia, UAE, Jordan, even Thailand. Kids had a blast regardless of the coach class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Travel churning. New credit card, meet minimum spend to earn bonus, move on to the next card. Never carry a balance, if done correctly.

That or budgeting well and prioritizing.

+1 when done responsibly, this is the way to go. This year we took 3 trips, one of them to Hawaii, all on points earned from CCs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s an anonymous site so you can pretty much say what you want . However I reserve the right to doubt your claim that business/first class is waste of money . It maybe transient as you say but it is nonetheless excruciatingly unpleasant.Moreover, people who can afford business/first seats aren’t looking to save so they can afford more trips , so based on your comments you clearly seem to lack the means to afford that on a regular basis , therefore clearly not the target demographic . The idea that the flying experience on a long haul flight ( even short one) where you can’t even move your knees and run the risk of being trapped next to some mouth breathing morbidly overweight fellow in coach is the same as business class where you aren’t reduced to being the human version of canned sardines is the same is quite frankly pitiful

You do you, honey. I’ll spend my money on things that matter to me.

I’m not sure why you feel the need to insult others who don’t care to waste money on such things. That says a lot about you. It’s like you need to justify your spending to yourself. Do you fly business because you need to feel superior? Again, it’s your money. If that feeling is what you like when you fly, have at it. You way want to consider giving to charity.

The wealthy people (even by DCUM standards) I know fly coach and drive unassuming cars. We all have our priorities.

You’re quite the sad and strange creature , if stating the facts is insulting so be it . You’re desperately pushing the false narrative that coach and business are one of the same thing and such dishonesty should be vigorously contested .No! I’m not better than you because I can afford to fly business whenever I travel. I’d be damned if people like and your barely disguised envy and jealousy are not confronted. You keep insisting that it’s waste of money without providing verifiable and pertinent arguments as to why , of course it was only a matter of time before you brought in that tired trope of wealthy people driving unsssuming cars . You’re not even good at trolling .

DP here, but you sound desperate. The PP means that coach and business are one of the same thing in the sense that you will get from point A to point B, and this is what her goal is. Why are you so emotional about someone's choice to fly coach? It is like a sofa that cost $1000 and $30,000 is the same thing -- it is the sofa and provides you with the place to sit on. You can argue as much as you want that the $30,000 is so superior, and people who think it is a wast of money just jealous and envy, but the reality is: it is still the sofa.

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Anonymous wrote:About the coach seats thing, when I go on vacation - the ENTIRETY of my trip needs to be a vacation for me. At least 80%. So four connections through Baltimore, New York, Rekaivik, and then finally landing in Paris is cramping my style.

On top of that, sitting in Coach for 10+ hours with cramped space and crying babies after fighting for your rightful carry-on space overhead is also not relaxing. So I don't think its embarrassing, its just not also what I picture when I have a vacation in my sights.

^^THIS X 1,000,000!!

If I can afford to fly business, I will fly business. Flying is part of my vacation, and I want to enjoy it. I get that paying for business class is not for everyone, but it's a luxury I enjoy. I am single with no kids. I have a good job that allows me to do what I want.

No judgement from me for others who chose to travel differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s an anonymous site so you can pretty much say what you want . However I reserve the right to doubt your claim that business/first class is waste of money . It maybe transient as you say but it is nonetheless excruciatingly unpleasant.Moreover, people who can afford business/first seats aren’t looking to save so they can afford more trips , so based on your comments you clearly seem to lack the means to afford that on a regular basis , therefore clearly not the target demographic . The idea that the flying experience on a long haul flight ( even short one) where you can’t even move your knees and run the risk of being trapped next to some mouth breathing morbidly overweight fellow in coach is the same as business class where you aren’t reduced to being the human version of canned sardines is the same is quite frankly pitiful

You do you, honey. I’ll spend my money on things that matter to me.

I’m not sure why you feel the need to insult others who don’t care to waste money on such things. That says a lot about you. It’s like you need to justify your spending to yourself. Do you fly business because you need to feel superior? Again, it’s your money. If that feeling is what you like when you fly, have at it. You way want to consider giving to charity.

The wealthy people (even by DCUM standards) I know fly coach and drive unassuming cars. We all have our priorities.

You’re quite the sad and strange creature , if stating the facts is insulting so be it . You’re desperately pushing the false narrative that coach and business are one of the same thing and such dishonesty should be vigorously contested .No! I’m not better than you because I can afford to fly business whenever I travel. I’d be damned if people like and your barely disguised envy and jealousy are not confronted. You keep insisting that it’s waste of money without providing verifiable and pertinent arguments as to why , of course it was only a matter of time before you brought in that tired trope of wealthy people driving unsssuming cars . You’re not even good at trolling .

Relax, lady. Like I said before, you do you. I do not need to provide verifiable evidence for my opinion. It’s an opinion. If it’s worth it to you, have at it. I get to my destination just the same while sitting in coach.

I generally avoid the sterilized, tourist parts of town too. The fascinating parts of the feel and personality of a city can be found elsewhere. It’s in the people, and the grocery store, and the mom and pop bakery. We all get different things out of travel experiences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travel churning. New credit card, meet minimum spend to earn bonus, move on to the next card. Never carry a balance, if done correctly.

That or budgeting well and prioritizing.

+1 when done responsibly, this is the way to go. This year we took 3 trips, one of them to Hawaii, all on points earned from CCs.

Does this work with any credit card?

[Anonymous]

For me, it's business travel overseas (5 times per year) that I usually combine with a couple days of personal sightseeing or visiting foreign friends. I went skiing in the Swiss Alps for 4 days in February and it only cost me the price of lift tickets and a cheap Airbnb with my friend!

We have a sh#t-ton of credit card points and airline miles (multiple hundreds of thousands). We use those for special trips or for my fiancee to tag along on one of my business trips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travel churning. New credit card, meet minimum spend to earn bonus, move on to the next card. Never carry a balance, if done correctly.

That or budgeting well and prioritizing.

+1 when done responsibly, this is the way to go. This year we took 3 trips, one of them to Hawaii, all on points earned from CCs.

Does this work with any credit card?

I'm the first pp quoted here. I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Can you sign up for any credit card, put required spend on it, then move on? Sure, if you'll be approved for the card. Best to use it occasionally for small things here and there after that point.

It is best to do these applications strategically, however, as card issuers have their own requirements, such as Chase, who have a rule of no more than 5 cards within the last 24 months. I started with two Southwest cards, earned Companion Pass, then got a Chase Sapphire Reserve for a lot of Chase Ultimate Rewards points and primary car rental insurance. Moved on from there. There are lots of internet resources.

[Anonymous]

Am I the only one that hates to fly because you miss too much? I guess there are places one can't visit unless they fly, but as I approach retirement, my desire to go around the world has dissipated due to the state of the world. Even many European cities are starting to resemble third world s-holes!

Give me a car, the open road, and a camera and I'm good. Drive through Canada? Sure. Alaskan Highway? Sign me up. The only other trips I'd like to do are river cruises throughout the US. They are pricey but you get a lot of bang for the buck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s an anonymous site so you can pretty much say what you want . However I reserve the right to doubt your claim that business/first class is waste of money . It maybe transient as you say but it is nonetheless excruciatingly unpleasant.Moreover, people who can afford business/first seats aren’t looking to save so they can afford more trips , so based on your comments you clearly seem to lack the means to afford that on a regular basis , therefore clearly not the target demographic . The idea that the flying experience on a long haul flight ( even short one) where you can’t even move your knees and run the risk of being trapped next to some mouth breathing morbidly overweight fellow in coach is the same as business class where you aren’t reduced to being the human version of canned sardines is the same is quite frankly pitiful

You do you, honey. I’ll spend my money on things that matter to me.

I’m not sure why you feel the need to insult others who don’t care to waste money on such things. That says a lot about you. It’s like you need to justify your spending to yourself. Do you fly business because you need to feel superior? Again, it’s your money. If that feeling is what you like when you fly, have at it. You way want to consider giving to charity.

The wealthy people (even by DCUM standards) I know fly coach and drive unassuming cars. We all have our priorities.

You’re quite the sad and strange creature , if stating the facts is insulting so be it . You’re desperately pushing the false narrative that coach and business are one of the same thing and such dishonesty should be vigorously contested .No! I’m not better than you because I can afford to fly business whenever I travel. I’d be damned if people like and your barely disguised envy and jealousy are not confronted. You keep insisting that it’s waste of money without providing verifiable and pertinent arguments as to why , of course it was only a matter of time before you brought in that tired trope of wealthy people driving unsssuming cars . You’re not even good at trolling .

DP here, but you sound desperate. The PP means that coach and business are one of the same thing in the sense that you will get from point A to point B, and this is what her goal is. Why are you so emotional about someone's choice to fly coach? It is like a sofa that cost $1000 and $30,000 is the same thing -- it is the sofa and provides you with the place to sit on. You can argue as much as you want that the $30,000 is so superior, and people who think it is a wast of money just jealous and envy, but the reality is: it is still the sofa.

Your interpretation skills are lacking , keep whatever day job you have if at all you’re employed . If PP meant what you say she meant why didn’t she say so? It’s because it’s not what she meant, she clearly alluded to the fact coach and business are similar in experience and further proclaimed that in lieu of business class seats she’d rather take two other vacations . All I did was point out that insinuating business and coach are the same thing flies in the face of reality and that people who can’t afford business class on a regular aren’t concerned about how many vacations they can take


Your sofa analogy is pathetic , if all you can afford is a $1,000 then it’s fine. However let’s not pretend that before long you wouldn’t be on the lookout for a replacement once your sweatshop-made sofa is coming apart like they always do . What are the chances of the $6,000 sofa ( Forget $30k) disintegrating in a short time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one that hates to fly because you miss too much? I guess there are places one can't visit unless they fly, but as I approach retirement, my desire to go around the world has dissipated due to the state of the world. Even many European cities are starting to resemble third world s-holes!

Give me a car, the open road, and a camera and I'm good. Drive through Canada? Sure. Alaskan Highway? Sign me up. The only other trips I'd like to do are river cruises throughout the US. They are pricey but you get a lot of bang for the buck.

Yeah it’s like we live in a country that doesn’t bury more than 13,000 people due to gun violence . It’s like going to church, a concert , a movie theater or dropping your kid at school hasn’t become a death sentence or something . Why bother with the facts when there’s always some false of sense superiority itching to surface ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cheap housing and pre-purchased airfare. I could get a ticket to Beijing right now for a September trip for $500 round-trip. You just need to know how to look.

This. I lived well below my means (cheap apartments), no car, saved a lot. Travel isn't that expensive if you're not staying in the Ritz Carlton.

[Anonymous]

Before they had a baby my DD and SIL traveled a ton almost always using miles. They both travel extensively for work and they are experts at racking up miles sometimes going to absurd lengths to get them. So miles plus a modest amount of cash can take you places.

[Anonymous]

Every "How does ___ afford ____" thread is the same.

1. They have more money than you realize (family money, lucky on investments, etc.)

OR

2. They spend less than you imagine (curated social media creates false impressions)

OR

3. They are in debt more than you realize (second mortgage, credit card debt, etc.)

Or some combination of the 3. Fin.