Are private schools safer than public schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The public school bullying is much worse. Less likely to have an intensely angry bullying victim in private.

Generalize much?

And to the extent you want to make broad generalizations, private has had worse bullying than public in my experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not put your kid in an urban school that isn't majority middle and upper middle class and white? Not only would your child get a more real world education than they'd get at a private school -- you don't see many mass shootings in those environments either. And for the college obsessed among you (which, I dare say, is probably all of you), a student with involved parents who excels in an urban school can expect his or her pick of top colleges.

Can you name for me a high quality urban public school that isn't majority middle and UMC white? Honest question.

And a note: Magnet schools don't count because, by virtue of the fact that they are selective, they don't have the cross-section of the population you are implying is necessary for a real world education.

Wilson in DC, as well as several public high schools in Arlington, Fairfax, and Montgomery counties. Top students at any one of them can get as good if not better an education than virtually any private school can offer. I realize, of course, that posting this on the private school discussion thread is heresy.

At least in MCPS, the best high schools are neither urban, nor are they majority non-MC and UMC white. You sound like you have an axe to grind against private schools.

First, who said anything about "best'? The poster asked that I identify "high quality" public schools that aren't majority middle and upper middle class white, and I did that. Second, what's your definition of "best?" Highest test scores? You do realize that the best predictors of a student's test scores is how much money and education his or her parents have, right? If you're a rich white kid at Wilson high or any high school in Arlington, Fairfax or Montgomery counties you're already on third base, and the quality of any one of these schools is easily high enough for you to score a home run.

You sound like you have an axe to grind against people who don't have what you have -- or look like you do.

[Anonymous]

I think privates may be slightly safer from a mass shooting but that is likely made up for in additional driving to get to/from school. Additionally it seems like private schools (mainly boarding but also day schools like Horace Mann) seem to more often mishandle sexual predators on campus. It is possible that this is no longer going on - but is also possible we just won't know about the current abuse for a while.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not put your kid in an urban school that isn't majority middle and upper middle class and white? Not only would your child get a more real world education than they'd get at a private school -- you don't see many mass shootings in those environments either. And for the college obsessed among you (which, I dare say, is probably all of you), a student with involved parents who excels in an urban school can expect his or her pick of top colleges.

Can you name for me a high quality urban public school that isn't majority middle and UMC white? Honest question.

And a note: Magnet schools don't count because, by virtue of the fact that they are selective, they don't have the cross-section of the population you are implying is necessary for a real world education.

Wilson in DC, as well as several public high schools in Arlington, Fairfax, and Montgomery counties. Top students at any one of them can get as good if not better an education than virtually any private school can offer. I realize, of course, that posting this on the private school discussion thread is heresy.

At least in MCPS, the best high schools are neither urban, nor are they majority non-MC and UMC white. You sound like you have an axe to grind against private schools.

First, who said anything about "best'? The poster asked that I identify "high quality" public schools that aren't majority middle and upper middle class white, and I did that. Second, what's your definition of "best?" Highest test scores? You do realize that the best predictors of a student's test scores is how much money and education his or her parents have, right? If you're a rich white kid at Wilson high or any high school in Arlington, Fairfax or Montgomery counties you're already on third base, and the quality of any one of these schools is easily high enough for you to score a home run.

You sound like you have an axe to grind against people who don't have what you have -- or look like you do.

You calling me racist? What the hell makes you think I’m racist?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think privates may be slightly safer from a mass shooting but that is likely made up for in additional driving to get to/from school. Additionally it seems like private schools (mainly boarding but also day schools like Horace Mann) seem to more often mishandle sexual predators on campus. It is possible that this is no longer going on - but is also possible we just won't know about the current abuse for a while.

Eh, that’s only because they tend to get more press. Go over to the MCPS forum and look at how they’re totally mismanaging multiple incidents of sexual abuse across that system.

[Anonymous]

Considering most school shootings are done by students, I would say privates are safer. My son is in private. They spend a lot of time on conflict resolution, emotional awareness, empathy etc. They pair younger students with older students for a multitude of “buddy” activities. Older kids end up looking out for the younger ones, thus eliminating a lot of bullying situations. The kids have respect for each other and their school. 99 out of 100 times the kids police each other before a teacher needs to get involved. And you can’t look like the scary kid in a trench coat when everyone is wearing the same thing. Also DS school is very diverse, racially and socioeconomically. They understand that people come from different places/types of homes. A lot of this they learn from underlying themes in curriculum.

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Banneker is a high quality mostly black school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Banneker is a high quality mostly black school.

It’s a magnet school. I was asking for open enrollment schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Considering most school shootings are done by students, I would say privates are safer. My son is in private. They spend a lot of time on conflict resolution, emotional awareness, empathy etc. They pair younger students with older students for a multitude of “buddy” activities. Older kids end up looking out for the younger ones, thus eliminating a lot of bullying situations. The kids have respect for each other and their school. 99 out of 100 times the kids police each other before a teacher needs to get involved. And you can’t look like the scary kid in a trench coat when everyone is wearing the same thing. Also DS school is very diverse, racially and socioeconomically. They understand that people come from different places/types of homes. A lot of this they learn from underlying themes in curriculum.

Oh paleeze. Are you seriously suggesting that the curriculum at your school makes it safer than a public school? What a joke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Banneker is a high quality mostly black school.

It’s a magnet school. I was asking for open enrollment schools.

And a previous poster has already answered your question. I see you have nothing to say in response.

[Anonymous]

"First, who said anything about "best'? The poster asked that I identify "high quality" public schools that aren't majority middle and upper middle class white, and I did that. Second, what's your definition of "best?" Highest test scores? You do realize that the best predictors of a student's test scores is how much money and education his or her parents have, right? If you're a rich white kid at Wilson high or any high school in Arlington, Fairfax or Montgomery counties you're already on third base, and the quality of any one of these schools is easily high enough for you to score a home run.

You sound like you have an axe to grind against people who don't have what you have -- or look like you do."

Not to get political, but this kind of virtue-signaling, politically correct bs is exactly why Trump won. Let's try to remember that stereotping people by their race is always wrong, even if you're doing it to prove that you're the most enlightened self-hating social justice warrior in your yoga class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have proved that thus far!

OP here. I don't know that the lack of school shootings so far at private schools (that I know of) is necessarily evidence that they're safer. Only 10% of students nationwide attend private schools, so I wouldn't expect an occurrence that remains fairly unusual to necessarily happen at schools that educate such a small percentage of students. My question is whether there are substantive reasons why private schools are safer.

I can't speak to school shootings but I can tell you that it was at dd's elite private school where she was sexually assaulted and had access to drugs and alcohol. She was safer at her DC public school in terms of interpersonal violence and a climate of drugs and drinking.

But, of course, you're not asking about that. I just am adding it in case people start assuming that private schools are safer in other ways. But the reality is that sometimes it's the rich entitled boys who are the dangerous ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"First, who said anything about "best'? The poster asked that I identify "high quality" public schools that aren't majority middle and upper middle class white, and I did that. Second, what's your definition of "best?" Highest test scores? You do realize that the best predictors of a student's test scores is how much money and education his or her parents have, right? If you're a rich white kid at Wilson high or any high school in Arlington, Fairfax or Montgomery counties you're already on third base, and the quality of any one of these schools is easily high enough for you to score a home run.

You sound like you have an axe to grind against people who don't have what you have -- or look like you do."

Not to get political, but this kind of virtue-signaling, politically correct bs is exactly why Trump won. Let's try to remember that stereotping people by their race is always wrong, even if you're doing it to prove that you're the most enlightened self-hating social justice warrior in your yoga class.

Oh lord, here's the virtue signaling crap again! That pp isn't virtue signaling but stating a fact - that kids with money and education will do better wherever they go to school. Okay, that pp is also making assumptions about the next pp in a way that is unfair and frankly annoying. But the next pp doesn't look any better by throwing around the "self-hating social justice warrior" insult. And I just love posters who decry "virtue signaling" by virtue signaling themselves.

[Anonymous]

Our private school seriously mishandled a tween making violent threats (including threats to bring a gun to school.)