Conservative Episcopal Church in DC Area

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Anonymous wrote:I mean...the local 'conservative' Episcopal parishes split off and joined the Anglican Diocese of Nigeria, where being gay is a crime. So if you mean politically conservative, you are probably looking for an Anglican church. I think that must be what you mean, since I don't know of many Episcopal churches where the sermons stray too far from the New Testament...you know, love thy neighbor, etc.

When I attended National Cathedral services, twice, the homilies were full of social justice rhetoric. I am not against gay marriage. I want an inspired homily that does not delve into politics. I guess I want a spiritual escape from the woes of the world. I am active in many out of church service activities.

I attended an Anglican church this morning (Falls Church Anglican). I am trying to find the right church community.

Yes. This is the one you are looking for, OP.

Unfortunately there is no run-of-the-mill Epsicopal church anymore. They are either "social justice-y" churches or they are Anglican now in Nova.

Presbyterian is the same (USA is social justice-y and "in America" is the Anglican equivalent)...same with Lutheran (ELCA = social justicey and Missouri Synod = Anglican equivalent). Seems all churches are now dividing themselves into LGBTQ warriors and LGBTQ rejectors. Gone are the days of the "LGBTQ-FRIENDLY" brand. You have to take a stand all in or all out, as though this is what defines us.
The only one I've found that doesn't do this is Methodist. Yet. But no one attends.

[Anonymous]

So agree with this poster.

I attended a Lutheran church this morning and the sermon was basically an attack on "all that has happened in our world since last Easter" to turn things upside down. And that it was our job to speak up and make things right. That was a political message. Undeniable. (And one could argue that it's a good one, but was it about faith in Christ or relationship with the living God? I don't think so.)

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I wonder if you might like Christ the King Anglican. http://www.ctkalexandria.org/
The have a reverent traditional approach to worship.

The other one that you might try is Church of the Ascension. I know they do weekly communion, I'm less certain of their musical style.

Solid recommendation for OP. They are a church plant of the original Falls Church Episcopal (before they left the episcopal church, lost their building, and became The Falls Church Anglican) but I have heard that they just kept right on plugging away as the same congregation they've always been without the very emotional drama that rocked the falls church episcopal/anglican congregation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP here... I have a feeling that the OP is simply sick of the clergy using the pulpit as a political podium. We have the same issue at our Episcopalian church. It has become too political. I don't necessarily always disagree with the viewpoints being presented. However, I don't feel this is the proper place for the clergy to voice their opinions. They share their political beliefs on social media, in demonstrations, and in other places too.

OP here. Yes, this is exactly what I am trying to articulate!

Here's the deal. If you can't handle the social justice bent of the Episcopalian church, then maybe you need a new denomination.

You are calling things political and the clergy you disagree with would likely say this is not politics, this is about our sense of ethics, personal responsibility and living out the vows we made to God. If that makes you uncomfortable, then you do not share the same doctrinal background as your church. The clergy are trying to shepherd their flock toward what they believe is right morally, spiritually and doctrinally. If you are bristling at that, then you are in the wrong church.

Sitting in the church pew is not meant to be a comfortable solace from the real world where you get to listen to hymns and pretend its 1950 and all is well in the world for white people. It is ugly and hard out there and filled with injustices and your clergy are rightly railing against it. If you want sunshine and roses all the time and a high mass, become Catholic and go to a Latin service where you won't even know what's being said. Otherwise go to a nondenominational evangelical service and get used to the praise dancing and hand waving.

Wow. You sure are full of yourself. And judgemental to boot.

As for social justice, if you knew anything about it, you wouldn't make disparaging comments about the Catholic Church.

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OP, I am confused about which Falls Church you attended. The Falls Church Anglican is the breakaway church affiliated with the Anglican church that is currently located in a building on Arlington Boulevard. Falls Church Episcopal is located in the historic church in the City of Falls Church (the Episcopal church won the lawsuit, and got this propety back a few years ago).

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I absolutely love TFCA, but I would attend the early services, not the 11am service if you want more traditional music. I love their homilys and they are never political.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I am confused about which Falls Church you attended. The Falls Church Anglican is the breakaway church affiliated with the Anglican church that is currently located in a building on Arlington Boulevard. Falls Church Episcopal is located in the historic church in the City of Falls Church (the Episcopal church won the lawsuit, and got this propety back a few years ago).

Does anyone even attend falls church episcopal even? It was such a vibrant church before the episcopal church took it over.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here -- is National Cathedral considered Liberal or mainstream Episcopal here in the DC area?

I don't think you understand - mainstream is liberal.

Just what I was going to say. The mainstream Episcopal church is supportive of gay marriage, LGBTQ rights, gun control and is pro-choice. If you are OK with that, then it seems all you need now is a church that doesn't focus on these issues in sermons and relates bible stories to other things.

gay marriage, LGBTQ rights, pro-choice.

I would do Unitarian this isn't even remotely related to being christian. Maybe helping the poor.

In general I don't care either way but don't shit in my mouth and call it a sundae. Just state that it's another religon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here -- is National Cathedral considered Liberal or mainstream Episcopal here in the DC area?

I don't think you understand - mainstream is liberal.

Just what I was going to say. The mainstream Episcopal church is supportive of gay marriage, LGBTQ rights, gun control and is pro-choice. If you are OK with that, then it seems all you need now is a church that doesn't focus on these issues in sermons and relates bible stories to other things.

gay marriage, LGBTQ rights, pro-choice.

I would do Unitarian this isn't even remotely related to being christian. Maybe helping the poor.

In general I don't care either way but don't shit in my mouth and call it a sundae. Just state that it's another religon.

I’m my episcopal church service every Sunday, we read three bible lessons, confess our sins, state what we believe in the Nicene creed, pray for those inside and outside of our community, pray for the country, the president, governor nd the world. We celebrate the Eucharist and say the Lord’s Prayer. Sometimes the sermons can get social justice bent, but most people know that is one person’s interpretation of the day’s scripture. The priest also welcomes feedback. The sermon is not intended to be the highlight of the worship service.
So yes, Sometimes you have a social justice sermon. We are also Christians in the way we worship and in what we believe.

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Anonymous wrote:OP if you can’t see a direct connection between social justice and Christian ideals I’d suggest a Southern Baptist congregation.

How do you feel about Latin Mass? Try the Catholic Churches in the Diocese of Arlington. I’ve heard there are a couple of Uber-conservative parishes in soringfield ans I believe Rick Santorum attended St Catherine of Siena.

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Return to Rome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here... I have a feeling that the OP is simply sick of the clergy using the pulpit as a political podium. We have the same issue at our Episcopalian church. It has become too political. I don't necessarily always disagree with the viewpoints being presented. However, I don't feel this is the proper place for the clergy to voice their opinions. They share their political beliefs on social media, in demonstrations, and in other places too.

OP here. Yes, this is exactly what I am trying to articulate!

Here's the deal. If you can't handle the social justice bent of the Episcopalian church, then maybe you need a new denomination.

You are calling things political and the clergy you disagree with would likely say this is not politics, this is about our sense of ethics, personal responsibility and living out the vows we made to God. If that makes you uncomfortable, then you do not share the same doctrinal background as your church. The clergy are trying to shepherd their flock toward what they believe is right morally, spiritually and doctrinally. If you are bristling at that, then you are in the wrong church.

Sitting in the church pew is not meant to be a comfortable solace from the real world where you get to listen to hymns and pretend its 1950 and all is well in the world for white people. It is ugly and hard out there and filled with injustices and your clergy are rightly railing against it. If you want sunshine and roses all the time and a high mass, become Catholic and go to a Latin service where you won't even know what's being said. Otherwise go to a nondenominational evangelical service and get used to the praise dancing and hand waving.

Yes!

[Anonymous]

Definitely St. Paul's K Street. Or come home to Rome.

[Anonymous]

My parents are extremely conservative and they attend St. Francis Church in Potomac.

[Anonymous]

St Pauls K Street for sure!