Why is MCPS radicalizing our children?

[Anonymous]

I don't think this was just a MoCo thing - heard them talking about it at Sidwell, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think this was just a MoCo thing - heard them talking about it at Sidwell, too.

It’s all over the country

[Anonymous]

Folks: Do not feed the trolls.
OP: It's spelled principal. -pal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks: Do not feed the trolls.
OP: It's spelled principal. -pal.

+1 Teach your daughter how to spell better than you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:High school kids are protesting getting shot while at school. No one is radicalizing them. They are afraid for their lives.

Well that's a problem isn't it because children are far more likely to be killed in a motor vehicle than they are in a school. In fact there are many things much more likely to kill them than 'gun violence in a school'.

However I agree there are many things that can be done to make children even safer than they are in school... but leaving school to go protest something is not one of them.

Didn't some child get assaulted last year going to one of these activist school condoned protests??

Yea, kids used to routinely die in car accidents, so we developed car seats and created laws about using them. Now, these kids rightfully want lawmakers to create laws limiting the sale of high-capacity, fast-firing weapons that are used to kill dozens of people in minutes. No one is radicalizing them. They are demanding protections from the adults around them.

(OP here, some good comments while I was away (and a few not so). I'll do my best to respond briefly in kind to the ones which I think add best to the discussion.

I feel it is a form of radicalization because the conversation they are inculcated with is so shallow. For example why is it these school shootings only happen in gun free zone schools. Could it be that yes guns are capable of killing people but also protecting people Killers consciously choose to go to places where children are least protected. Yet the children protesting never seem to be aware of this point of view, they seem to magically belie that if laws exist to ban firearms, voila they are safe. Nope, they are less safe. Because the criminals and the insane don't give a fig about the law so only the law abiding are disarmed. this is a legitimate argument but its never espouses by these children 'protesters'. Why? If we were truly educating them, they would be aware of this perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP. Relax. Not everything is worthy of outrage. No one is indoctrinating your precious little one. When we aren't in DC, we live in a fairly rural Mississippi county. Our high school here is allowing protest. And this is FAR from a liberal area. It's ok.

Are you the same person outraged over transgender people?

1. Ive raised DD not to be a 'precious little one', I'm not worried about her, but I am worried her education is lacking.
2. What the hell does transgenderism have to do with it? Or are you just generalizing all people you disagree with as unworthies to be marginalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you scared of the next generation, op? Afraid that maybe as they come of age under the fear of mass shootings, that maybe they will be the voting block that is needed to get real reform on gun control done?

No I'm worried the next generation will deny themselves their inalienable rights and become victims to those who will not obey the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:High school kids are protesting getting shot while at school. No one is radicalizing them. They are afraid for their lives.

Well that's a problem isn't it because children are far more likely to be killed in a motor vehicle than they are in a school. In fact there are many things much more likely to kill them than 'gun violence in a school'.

However I agree there are many things that can be done to make children even safer than they are in school... but leaving school to go protest something is not one of them.

Didn't some child get assaulted last year going to one of these activist school condoned protests??

So, you're only allowed to address the single cause most likely to kill you?

Since heart disease is more common than cancer, does that mean I should stop encouraging my kid to wear sunscreen or donating to cancer research?

Since more people die of stroke than of childhood diseases, should I stop immunizing?

I can care about multiple issues. I can support things like seatbelts and DUI enforcement and graduated licensing, and childhood immunizations, and gun control.

But the children aren't leaving school to protest the indiscriminate nature of heart disease over cancer (or cancer over heart disease).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a life cupcake.

Instead of useless derision, how about you add something meaningful to the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It teaches something far more important (more important than this issue, or any particular issue), it teaches students that they are empowered, that their voice and actions matter. It teaches them to be civic minded - whether supporting this issue or protesting against it. That is the lesson, Op.

Understandable but how about they learn that lesson on their own time?? Theres a million tings to rile up the kids to go out an protest, some justified some not but if we say this one is ok, than they are all OK and then really whats the point of login to school. They don't need to learn, they just can go out and protest in the street to get everything they want. of course that will lead to life of failure which would have been mitigated if they stayed in school.

Worse though is this lesson seems to me just cheap theatrics because the 2nd Amendment really isn't going anywhere so.

Bottom line, children need an education, use that education to first provide for themselves, be good citizens, and with 1 and 2 squared away, make improvements in society that benefit all. This protest thing belittles or perhaps undermines that education.

[Anonymous]

Common sense gun laws are not “radical.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP! I disagree with you, but I'd love to change the tone on this board. So I'm just going to send good wishes your way and say that we come at this one from different perspectives.

Thank you, this is the purpose of dialogue, to allow differing options to bounce ideas of each other and ideally both sides gain from the new knowledge gained. This fails if people are just shut down.

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I've already called our principle to voice my concern, please if you agree with me do so as well. Our children need to grow into responsible adults to allow their full individuality to bloom , let's not allow them to be used as pawns.

I agree with you, OP. Which is why I agree with the student protests. The way you become a responsible, involved member of society is to start being a responsible, involved member of society.

Walking out of school is not responsible IMHO, and not a real way to solve problems.

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Anonymous wrote:DD informed me that her HS is having a walk out to protest 'gun violence'?

She says all the high schools are doing it and now its her school's turn.

So we pay taxes so MCPS can advance political agendas and allow our children to be used as Post-Modernist Marxist Leftwing propaganda pieces?

Call MCPS and let them know they best not condone this activist nonsense and ensure they hold each child accountable. Someone walks out, its an unexcused absence bar none.

I know most of MoCo is anti-2nd Amendment, but that matters not. Would we allow our children to walk out to protest abortion? No. Protest the Pro-Life movement?? No. Protest Islam? No. Protest Christianity? No. Protest atheism? No.

Right or left no one supports 'gun violence'. Still how many murders are committed in DC, Baltimore, etc etc year after year and nary a peep. Why, because there is no political traction to be gained from protesting those murders. But a school shooter... Ka-ching, time to cash in.

Teaching kids its OK to go protest whatever their heart desires (or worse, whatever pet issue school administrators support) irrespective of their responsibilities just infantilizes our children.
Dont like something, have a temper tantrum. You feel wronged... have a hissy fit. A teacher tells you its cool, go beak the law.

Look, most kids can't even clean their bedroom, yet schools teach them they can go out protest to solve all the worlds complex problems? Nonsense. Children need to learn they have duties and responsibilities and are held accountable to them. They need to go school, study hard, work hard, be something no just become the unthinking passive street rabble tool of agitators.

Then when they make something of their life, they can dedicate it to making the world a better place but they'll only be successful if they can take care of themselves first. That our schools have lost track of this is so very disappointing.

I've already called our principle to voice my concern, please if you agree with me do so as well. Our children need to grow into responsible adults to allow their full individuality to bloom , let's not allow them to be used as pawns.

Thank you.

How, exactly, does one call a 'principle'?

I picked up the phone...
You can email too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:High school kids are protesting getting shot while at school. No one is radicalizing them. They are afraid for their lives.

Well that's a problem isn't it because children are far more likely to be killed in a motor vehicle than they are in a school. In fact there are many things much more likely to kill them than 'gun violence in a school'.

However I agree there are many things that can be done to make children even safer than they are in school... but leaving school to go protest something is not one of them.

Didn't some child get assaulted last year going to one of these activist school condoned protests??

Actually that’s not true anymore. As of 2015, gun violence is killing as many people as car accidents. My McPS kindergarten student came home today to tell me about the lockdown drill he will be having on Friday. He is 5 years old. I am proud of students who choose to protest the status quo.

1. Suicide is included in the gun violence statistics but issn really gun violence as were are defining it here.
2. Without suffice in the #s, MVAs do in fact lead to more death than fire arm deaths.
3. And if you simply look at school killings, MVAs vastly outnumber such occurrences.