Additional Suggestions for Kid who Liked UNC-Chapel Hill and CU Boulder?

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Anonymous wrote:NC is still very southern. Everyone asks what church you go to. There are an astonishing number of places that don't open on Sunday. Happy hour is banned.

Fake post. happy hours are banned? That’s the best bs you got?

What isn’t open on Sunday. I would only think locally owned restaurants and boutiques would close. I’m in nova and that’s the case here. Also malls and restaurants here (and I presume almost everywhere) also have limited hours on Sunday.

OP of "happy hour is banned." Yes, in North Carolina, the traditional happy hour is banned. Establishments are prohibited from offering any sort of specials or discounts on alcohol.

Heck, until recently, alcohol could not be sold on Sunday until after noon. Because apparently a Mimosa at 10:30 would trigger the collapse of civilization.

I'm hard-pressed to think of anything, even locally owned, that was closed on Sundays in DC. Lots of stuff closed on Sunday here. Or absurdly limited hours. The children's library doesn't even open until 1 pm on Sunday. Farmers market opens at noon. Places close at 4 or 5. I looked into kids swimming and gymnastics lessons on Sunday; nothing. No one offers classes on Sundays.

LOL!!!!!!! Your ignorance is hilarious and only reveals your weird bias against NC. Did you know that ...gasp...happy hour is banned in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont, too? Illinois just repealed the law in 2015, although they it’s still illegal to have two for one specials or all-you-can drink specials there. New York repealed its no-alcohol-before-noon-on Sunday just two years ago in 2016. Oh noes, I guess we can’t send the snowflakes to Brown or Harvard or Middlebury!!! Too southern! Too conservative!

I am biased against North Carolina. I hate this state. I've not been hiding that.

But the no alcohol specials, combined with the closed-on-Sunday culture and social communities built around churches points to a southern, conservative mindset. What I don't get is why everyone insists it isn't southern. It's southern. Now, whether that's your cup of tea or not is an entirely different matter. Clearly, it's not mine. Maybe it is yours. But don't peddle this bunk that North Carolina is like the northeast, or Midwest, or whatever. It's solidly southern. The larger community around UNC is nothing like Boulder. Or Madison. Or plenty of other schools on OP's list.

Maybe college students would be largely oblivious to this; most college campuses have a nice bubble effect.

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*shrug* Chapel Hill is one of the most highly educated, progressive cities in the US. I’ve lived in both Madison and CH and found them to be strikingly similar- except for the weather. Yes, there are many places in NC that are as Deep South as it gets, but a college kid would have no reason to go there.

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Anonymous wrote:NC is still very southern. Everyone asks what church you go to. There are an astonishing number of places that don't open on Sunday. Happy hour is banned.

Fake post. happy hours are banned? That’s the best bs you got?

What isn’t open on Sunday. I would only think locally owned restaurants and boutiques would close. I’m in nova and that’s the case here. Also malls and restaurants here (and I presume almost everywhere) also have limited hours on Sunday.

OP of "happy hour is banned." Yes, in North Carolina, the traditional happy hour is banned. Establishments are prohibited from offering any sort of specials or discounts on alcohol.

Heck, until recently, alcohol could not be sold on Sunday until after noon. Because apparently a Mimosa at 10:30 would trigger the collapse of civilization.

I'm hard-pressed to think of anything, even locally owned, that was closed on Sundays in DC. Lots of stuff closed on Sunday here. Or absurdly limited hours. The children's library doesn't even open until 1 pm on Sunday. Farmers market opens at noon. Places close at 4 or 5. I looked into kids swimming and gymnastics lessons on Sunday; nothing. No one offers classes on Sundays.

LOL!!!!!!! Your ignorance is hilarious and only reveals your weird bias against NC. Did you know that ...gasp...happy hour is banned in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont, too? Illinois just repealed the law in 2015, although they it’s still illegal to have two for one specials or all-you-can drink specials there. New York repealed its no-alcohol-before-noon-on Sunday just two years ago in 2016. Oh noes, I guess we can’t send the snowflakes to Brown or Harvard or Middlebury!!! Too southern! Too conservative!

I am biased against North Carolina. I hate this state. I've not been hiding that.

But the no alcohol specials, combined with the closed-on-Sunday culture and social communities built around churches points to a southern, conservative mindset. What I don't get is why everyone insists it isn't southern. It's southern. Now, whether that's your cup of tea or not is an entirely different matter. Clearly, it's not mine. Maybe it is yours. But don't peddle this bunk that North Carolina is like the northeast, or Midwest, or whatever. It's solidly southern. The larger community around UNC is nothing like Boulder. Or Madison. Or plenty of other schools on OP's list.

Maybe college students would be largely oblivious to this; most college campuses have a nice bubble effect.

You might have a valid point if moving to a small town or small city in North Carolina (maybe, I doubt it's that bad and it's more your prejudice over something specific that's coming through). But we're talking about college kids at universities. I somehow doubt that students at Duke and UNC-Chapel Hill or Davidson or NC State are worried about the fine details of churchgoing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NC is still very southern. Everyone asks what church you go to. There are an astonishing number of places that don't open on Sunday. Happy hour is banned.

Fake post. happy hours are banned? That’s the best bs you got?

What isn’t open on Sunday. I would only think locally owned restaurants and boutiques would close. I’m in nova and that’s the case here. Also malls and restaurants here (and I presume almost everywhere) also have limited hours on Sunday.

What? There are no blue laws anymore in Virginia, things are open on Sunday. I live in NOVA too. I have no idea what your babbling about with re to North Carolina, malls, and the UNC experience for the OP. If “you would think” that means you don’t know. I was in Chapel Hill two weeks ago, everything was open. Maybe you can start your own thread in Off topics since everything you’re talking about is off topic to the college forum and this particular thread.

Educate thyself before posting. There are blue laws in Virginia. Most ABC stores are closed or on very limited hours on Sundays. here are the blue laws by state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States

[Anonymous]

OP, I may have missed it where you said it but are you in-state for Virginia? If so, letting your son blow off UVA and W&M (The Va Tech suggestion was a good one as well) just because of lack of snow seems rather short-sighted from a family's financial planning point of view. Is cost for 4,5,6 years (a lot of kids take longer than four years now) of no factor to you? You're talking some differences of $26K to $81K a year, transportation and other incidentals included. And the delta is in after-tax dollars. We are very grateful for the wonderful in-state schools we have in VA, especially since it appears that all three children may go on to grad school. But the GPA needs to come up if that is weighted.

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If you’re from Virginia, good luck getting into unc chapel hill. They have the highest in state bias of any public school, something like 80%.

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Anonymous wrote:University Colorado Boulder - LOVED it. Good business/engineering programs. Beautiful campus, mountains (avid skier), school spirit (esp. the buffalo), he likes the kids aren't too hippy, food looks great, dorms are great, sports stadium in campus center. He promises he won't smoke pot.

Might as well just stop looking. CU is a great school in an amazing location. I loved every minute at CU and would love to be back in Boulder. Of course, I'm from Colorado and miss it terribly. However, don't kid yourself on the pot thing. Of course he's gonna smoke weed at CU.

I'm betting too that the kid will be toking it up in Boulder.

[Anonymous]

University of British Columbia, with weekend trips to Whistler?

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University of Washington -- beautiful campus in a very cool city -- urban, yes, but with easy access to mountains and water; excellent engineering programs -- though your DS will have to work hard if that's what he wants to pursue

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re from Virginia, good luck getting into unc chapel hill. They have the highest in state bias of any public school, something like 80%.

Higher, it’s around 84-86% by law.

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I would advise you to also specifically look for "safeties" that fit his tastes that he . His GPA is -by contemporary standards-- on the lowish side for competitive schools and ECs seem typical. Out of state admissions at flagship nationally "desirable" schools when you are from the DC metro area and have no other specific 'hooks' (e.g. amazing awards, URM, legacy, unusual instrument for orchestra or marching band etc.) can be brutal. Since money isn't an issue, you can really seek out places that are safeties that he also truly loves.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Washington -- beautiful campus in a very cool city -- urban, yes, but with easy access to mountains and water; excellent engineering programs -- though your DS will have to work hard if that's what he wants to pursue

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re from Virginia, good luck getting into unc chapel hill. They have the highest in state bias of any public school, something like 80%.

Higher, it’s around 84-86% by law.

Stats from 2017 Class at UNC

40,918 applied
9,709 admitted (24% of all students applying; 46% of NC applicants; 14% of out-of-state applicants)
4,355 enrolled (45% of all students admitted; 61% of NC admits; 20% of out-of-state admits)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re from Virginia, good luck getting into unc chapel hill. They have the highest in state bias of any public school, something like 80%.

Higher, it’s around 84-86% by law.

Stats from 2017 Class at UNC

40,918 applied
9,709 admitted (24% of all students applying; 46% of NC applicants; 14% of out-of-state applicants)
4,355 enrolled (45% of all students admitted; 61% of NC admits; 20% of out-of-state admits)

By law out of state enrollment for OOS students is 18%. It doesn’t have to meet the cap but it cannot exceed the cap. UNC is unapologetically a university for NC residents. They do not tinker with the instate and OOS ratios in a way to balance their budget like Virginia schools (Virginia is getting a lot of heat for that from Va Residents bc it’s now harder for Virginia kids to get into Virginia schools but Va increased the OOS ratio and decreased the instate ratio). NC has been very clear they have no plans to ever change their instate policies. And OOS athletes also count towards the 18% OOS ratio UNLESS they are on full scholarship.

So it’s pretty hard to get into UNC OOS. If your child gets in I would be super impressed.

[Anonymous]

Check out Marquette while you are checking out UW. DS goes there and is majoring in engineering. They have a unique dual enrollment program with MIAD where you can do design related classes that relate to your engineering degree to further understand how things are made. Friend's DD is majoring in business there and their business school is solid. Scholarships are also abundant and school spirit is high.