SISparent - frustrations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when do parents monitor their middle and high school age students' assignments? Unless there was a serious problem that involves a learning disability, it should be the student's responsibility. Students need to take responsibility for their own assignments and grades. This is an important step toward adulthood.

I'm positive my parents NEVER knew what my grades and test scores were except for at report card time. This SIS system sounds like a case of enabling over-parenting anyway.

If your child really needs that much supervision you should at least leave it up to your student (not the teacher) to let you know what grades he/she is getting on assignments, test, projects. At least that's a little responsibility for the student to take. Do you not even trust your child to tell you that?

Have you even read the thread? SIS is not some parent only website. It is also the website where the kids get their grades from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when do parents monitor their middle and high school age students' assignments? Unless there was a serious problem that involves a learning disability, it should be the student's responsibility. Students need to take responsibility for their own assignments and grades. This is an important step toward adulthood.

I'm positive my parents NEVER knew what my grades and test scores were except for at report card time. This SIS system sounds like a case of enabling over-parenting anyway.

If your child really needs that much supervision you should at least leave it up to your student (not the teacher) to let you know what grades he/she is getting on assignments, test, projects. At least that's a little responsibility for the student to take. Do you not even trust your child to tell you that?

Have you even read the thread? SIS is not some parent only website. It is also the website where the kids get their grades from.

They are seeing their grades as they are returned, that's just where they are stored and updated. Can't they figure out where they stand without seeing a constant updated grade on a website? It only takes a little thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when do parents monitor their middle and high school age students' assignments? Unless there was a serious problem that involves a learning disability, it should be the student's responsibility. Students need to take responsibility for their own assignments and grades. This is an important step toward adulthood.

I'm positive my parents NEVER knew what my grades and test scores were except for at report card time. This SIS system sounds like a case of enabling over-parenting anyway.

If your child really needs that much supervision you should at least leave it up to your student (not the teacher) to let you know what grades he/she is getting on assignments, test, projects. At least that's a little responsibility for the student to take. Do you not even trust your child to tell you that?

Have you even read the thread? SIS is not some parent only website. It is also the website where the kids get their grades from.

They are seeing their grades as they are returned, that's just where they are stored and updated. Can't they figure out where they stand without seeing a constant updated grade on a website? It only takes a little thinking.

I hope you are not the poster who asked why parents need to monitor their kids grades again. YES, they can figure that out IF teachers give back the tests/quizzes/papers and other assignments. In many cases, they don't. That's what bothers me.

Got it? Neither student nor parent knows what the grades are in any way, shape or form because some teachers cannot grade papers or return them for weeks, even months.

[Anonymous]

To PP ^^

This is 17:17 from the first page, and no, that was not me asking (again) about parents monitoring via SIS. But that poster above does get at what I was thinking about. You stated that neither student nor parent knows the grade in a class because "some" teachers do not return graded materials in a timely fashion. Some. The vast majority of teachers do though, correct? So in those select cases where a teacher is not returning graded work- it's a teacher issue that needs to be addressed. Teachers that return materials in a timely fashion to students shouldn't be harassed by parents demanding to see the same info in SIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day. And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

[Anonymous]

One of the advantages of SIS is to see the overall grade. My kids take quizzes, major exams, projects, presentations, homework, etc. and they all are weighted differently. The SIS helps them and parents see how the kids are doing. Imagine a 9th grader who plays a sport or other time consuming activity losing track after weeks and months of school. The SIS can help them focus on how they are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day. And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

Look I'm sure you teach well during the day, but there is no way for your kids to know how they stand and how well they are doing unless they can get their grades back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day. And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

It sounds like you imagine every job that isn't teaching is an office job. I have plenty of respect for teachers and how hard their job is, but teaching isn't the only job that doesn't allow for quiet time in an office, or constant customer interaction, or lacks a lunch hour. I run a restaurant and that describes my job, too. I could go on about the other ways in which my time off is sometimes not my own, but in my experience, that's part of the job unless you're a low level or hourly employee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day. And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

It sounds like you imagine every job that isn't teaching is an office job. I have plenty of respect for teachers and how hard their job is, but teaching isn't the only job that doesn't allow for quiet time in an office, or constant customer interaction, or lacks a lunch hour. I run a restaurant and that describes my job, too. I could go on about the other ways in which my time off is sometimes not my own, but in my experience, that's part of the job unless you're a low level or hourly employee.

What makes teaching unique is that YOU.MUST.BE.ON.ALWAYS.FOR.THE.KIDS.

You run a restaurant? I remember working in a restaurant during my HS days. It was nice being able to ask people to cover for you while you went to the restroom. Or to take a phone call. Or have a cigarette. There were also down times when there was nobody in the restaurant where you could kick back and goof off with co-workers or catch up on other things. And there was always time to hide out in the office for a few just to catch a break. Can't come in? Just get someone else to cover for you. When you return to go in to a new day. Can't go in to teach? You must create sub plans. And return to a pile of work that needs to be graded.

I'm sure your work is hard. Everyone works hard. But teaching is different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day. And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

Look I'm sure you teach well during the day, but there is no way for your kids to know how they stand and how well they are doing unless they can get their grades back.

I'm certain they are getting their grades back. Most of them. However, there may be a few delays here and there.

I often go over work immediately after it's been collected so students have a clue on where they stand with the material and are able to ask questions. This is not done so I can take the entire quarter to grade and return the work but if it takes a little longer than I wanted it's not the end of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day.
And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

You are on the wrong thread.

This one is about high school kids, not kindergartners. Different ballgame.

No "innocent faces" waiting with eager smiles waiting to absorb all your wisdom, just eyes glued to cell phones, faces hidden in goodies, and back of heads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine a salary job where, if I were behind on my work, I wouldn't have to spend a few hours getting caught up on the weekend, or on one of the 17 days of winter break, or on a snow day. Teaching is not a job where you punch the time clock. Why is it treated that way?

You also probably can't imagine a salary job where after meeting burnout, you cannot simply go into your cubicle or office and decompress. You probably also can't imagine not being able to go to the bathroom the second you feel like it.

In teaching, you have to always be ON during the day. ALWAYS. You don't teach classes, sit through meetings, rush through work while "having lunch" then chat it up with colleagues in their cubicles or sit in your office rubbing your temples for 20 minutes before getting back to work. You run out of yet one more meeting to a classroom full of innocent faces staring at you waiting to see what you have planned for the day.
And you've gotta be on READY.

Teachers do the best they can. Those vacation times are needed so they can go back to work and be SANE for your children. And yeah, work is also being done during that time as well but with 150+ stduents, be lucky your child ever sees graded work.

You are on the wrong thread.

This one is about high school kids, not kindergartners. Different ballgame.

No "innocent faces" waiting with eager smiles waiting to absorb all your wisdom, just eyes glued to cell phones, faces hidden in goodies, and back of heads.

Whatever the case, you're expected to go in there prepared to teach them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YES, they can figure that out IF teachers give back the tests/quizzes/papers and other assignments. In many cases, they don't.

+1

As for the majority are handing back work so the students can figure out the grade for the quarter -- my high schooler is not allowed to keep his tests/quizzes when they are graded/returned for three of his classes. Evidently the teacher doesn't want the tests/quizzes circulating among students. There at least four instances where a test that was returned/collected back by the teacher is listed as Not Graded in SIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when do parents monitor their middle and high school age students' assignments? Unless there was a serious problem that involves a learning disability, it should be the student's responsibility. Students need to take responsibility for their own assignments and grades. This is an important step toward adulthood.

I'm positive my parents NEVER knew what my grades and test scores were except for at report card time. This SIS system sounds like a case of enabling over-parenting anyway.

If your child really needs that much supervision you should at least leave it up to your student (not the teacher) to let you know what grades he/she is getting on assignments, test, projects. At least that's a little responsibility for the student to take. Do you not even trust your child to tell you that?

The KIDS DON'T KNOW EITHER! It's not available to them.

You have no idea what is going on and why it may be necessary to monitor grades. Get off your soapbox and keep your opinions to yourself until you can speak from a point of experience -- not your experience growing up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently if it says "Not Graded" that means the student has not turned in the work. You would be best to start by having a chat with your kid.

Um no. NOT GRADED means it has been turned in and it hasn't been graded. if it is missing it will say MISSING, NOT TURNED IN.