Why do Republicans hate electric cars?

[Anonymous]

I am sure you are aware that the US is a net exporter and very little foreign oil (mostly North Sea) is imported to produce gasoline. Of course you knew that. Just forgot.

No, the vast majority of our oil is imported and we are importing more than before. That is because our refiners are tuned for heavy oil (not natural gas)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/04/17/why-u-s-crude-oil-imports-are-rising/#7543655b143f

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Republican and I am not in favor of anything being shoved in my face, I think I deserve the right to choose. I see all electric, self driving cars as another means of control by the left. Not interested, over time I suspect electric cars will become the norm, and that is how it should be, over time. Not government mandated, it should be a result of freedom of choice. Also, I won't purchase anything made in CA until they come back from
"crazy ville" and that may never happen.

So I guess you're pro-choice... right?

I am pro choice, I am not for partial term murder. When a baby is viable outside the womb, it is murder. Surprised? I'm sure you are, as I do not fit in your perfect little description.

HFS.
Drink that anti-choice literature. Drink it up. Bathe in your ignorance.
- watched my sister deal with the emotional aftermath of one of your "murders."

Tesla Roofs, guys. Tesla Roofs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because democrats like them.

I'd buy that. Not an informed decision, just a spiteful emotional reaction.

Remember how mad they were about 100 watt bulbs being phased out? Today, who cares, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was all excited about the model 3 launch and was looking into booking it(even though the wait is 1.5 years maybe). Anyways, a co worker who is a hard core Trump supporter comes up to me and says that Tesla cars and electrics are a scam.

I dont understand why Republicans hate electric cars. Here are the facts.

1) Electric cars are faster than gasoline cars (Reseach ludicrous mode in model S)
2) We are not dependent on foreign oil
3) They are manufactured in Freemont CA, so jobs!
4) The batteries are made in NV so more jobs
5) The tax credits given for electric cars are nothing compared to the tax reliefs given to Oil companies.
6) Most people plug their car into the super charger for 15 mins and get about ~60 to 70% range(Almost like filling gas at a gas station)
7) You plug in your car at home and wake up every day to 200 miles plus of range.
8) They dont pollute and are smooth and fun to drive.

It boggles my mind when I hear another American not supporting this concept.

How is your logic works? If I think something a scam -- I have to hate it automatically? Where is the logic?

Environmentalists do not equal logic. Do it their way or go f yourself. No discussion, and that is their problem in a nutshell.

Another bot example I think. Or troll. But definitely another non-sequitur response that seems to be based off of key words in a post.

I am not a pp, but how is the scam equals hate? When I recognize the scam and see the people who felt for that scam, I don't hate them. I have other feelings, but definitely not hate. That is why I asked how is you logically connect scam and hate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was all excited about the model 3 launch and was looking into booking it(even though the wait is 1.5 years maybe). Anyways, a co worker who is a hard core Trump supporter comes up to me and says that Tesla cars and electrics are a scam.

I dont understand why Republicans hate electric cars. Here are the facts.

1) Electric cars are faster than gasoline cars (Reseach ludicrous mode in model S)
2) We are not dependent on foreign oil
3) They are manufactured in Freemont CA, so jobs!
4) The batteries are made in NV so more jobs
5) The tax credits given for electric cars are nothing compared to the tax reliefs given to Oil companies.
6) Most people plug their car into the super charger for 15 mins and get about ~60 to 70% range(Almost like filling gas at a gas station)
7) You plug in your car at home and wake up every day to 200 miles plus of range.
8) They dont pollute and are smooth and fun to drive.

It boggles my mind when I hear another American not supporting this concept.

How is your logic works? If I think something a scam -- I have to hate it automatically? Where is the logic?

Environmentalists do not equal logic. Do it their way or go f yourself. No discussion, and that is their problem in a nutshell.

Another bot example I think. Or troll. But definitely another non-sequitur response that seems to be based off of key words in a post.

I am not a pp, but how is the scam equals hate? When I recognize the scam and see the people who felt for that scam, I don't hate them. I have other feelings, but definitely not hate. That is why I asked how is you logically connect scam and hate?

I think I might have broken the bot algorithm. Or maybe somehow triggered the "Trump Word Salad" mode.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I am a Republican and I am not in favor of anything being shoved in my face, I think I deserve the right to choose. I see all electric, self driving cars as another means of control by the left. Not interested, over time I suspect electric cars will become the norm, and that is how it should be, over time. Not government mandated, it should be a result of freedom of choice. Also, I won't purchase anything made in CA until they come back from
"crazy ville" and that may never happen

How is this a means of control?

Are you OK with we being dependent on foreign oil, which requires us to fight expensive wars to maintain supply?

I am sure you are aware that the US is a net exporter and very little foreign oil (mostly North Sea) is imported to produce gasoline. Of course you knew that. Just forgot.

That is being reversed as we speak, thanks to the new administration. What I am not okay with is EPA taking over the thought process of everything and their insane mental way of freaking out every time someone questions there direction or even motive. Of course you are speaking as an environmentalist who things they have a total and absolute grasp on the future of this country and where we are heading. I on the other hand see you, as many of my lib neighbors, as leaches who use these viewpoints to suck off of the tax payers. Go away.

DP and your rants seem quite incomprehensible and unhinged to me.

A.) Nobody is shoving Teslas in your face. That comment makes no sense.
B.) Nobody has taken your choice away.
C.) No, there's no grand scheme to control you. Tesla is a company, they make cars. People buy their cars because they like them. If you don't like them, fine, don't buy one.
D.) CA = 'crazy ville?' Unhinged comment. No further commentary needed there.
E.) EPA has not taken over anyone's thought process. Pollution is actually a real thing. When people spew black smoke from their diesel powered 4x4s it actually does make people sick via PM2.5 particulates that are so fine they pass through the lung's membranes and go straight into your blood stream.
F.) You know who's sucking off of taxpayers? Oil and gas companies that have pipelines that spill and poison rivers and farmers fields, coal companies and power plants that fill rivers with toxic coal ash sludge, et cetera - and it ends up being taxpayers bearing the cost of cleanup. They privatize the profits but socialize the cost and risk. So much for free market.
And by the way:
G.) The fossil fuel industry in the US has been subsidized for over 100 years.

Those are realities. And they won't "go away."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because democrats like them.

I'd buy that. Not an informed decision, just a spiteful emotional reaction.

Remember how mad they were about 100 watt bulbs being phased out? Today, who cares, right?

That was my staunchly conservative mom. She hoarded boxes of incandescents. But now, a couple of years later, she LOOOVES her LED bulbs.

Conservatives, they fear change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
That is being reversed as we speak, thanks to the new administration. What I am not okay with is EPA taking over the thought process of everything and their insane mental way of freaking out every time someone questions there direction or even motive. Of course you are speaking as an environmentalist who things they have a total and absolute grasp on the future of this country and where we are heading. I on the other hand see you, as many of my lib neighbors, as leaches who use these viewpoints to suck off of the tax payers. Go away.

DP and your rants seem quite incomprehensible and unhinged to me.

A.) Nobody is shoving Teslas in your face. That comment makes no sense.
B.) Nobody has taken your choice away.
C.) No, there's no grand scheme to control you. Tesla is a company, they make cars. People buy their cars because they like them. If you don't like them, fine, don't buy one.
D.) CA = 'crazy ville?' Unhinged comment. No further commentary needed there.
E.) EPA has not taken over anyone's thought process. Pollution is actually a real thing. When people spew black smoke from their diesel powered 4x4s it actually does make people sick via PM2.5 particulates that are so fine they pass through the lung's membranes and go straight into your blood stream.
F.) You know who's sucking off of taxpayers? Oil and gas companies that have pipelines that spill and poison rivers and farmers fields, coal companies and power plants that fill rivers with toxic coal ash sludge, et cetera - and it ends up being taxpayers bearing the cost of cleanup. They privatize the profits but socialize the cost and risk. So much for free market.
And by the way:
G.) The fossil fuel industry in the US has been subsidized for over 100 years.

Those are realities. And they won't "go away."

Pretty sure you are arguing with a bot or a crazy person. I'm now suspicious of all slightly non-sequitur responses, because it would be really easy to develop a bot that can string together responses based on keywords. The ones that are bizarrely non-responsive suggest to me they are coming from a person who is slighly deranged (so not worth arguing with) or a computher algorithm (so not worth arguing with).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a Republican and I am not in favor of anything being shoved in my face, I think I deserve the right to choose. I see all electric, self driving cars as another means of control by the left. Not interested, over time I suspect electric cars will become the norm, and that is how it should be, over time. Not government mandated, it should be a result of freedom of choice. Also, I won't purchase anything made in CA until they come back from
"crazy ville" and that may never happen

How is this a means of control?

Are you OK with we being dependent on foreign oil, which requires us to fight expensive wars to maintain supply?

I am sure you are aware that the US is a net exporter and very little foreign oil (mostly North Sea) is imported to produce gasoline. Of course you knew that. Just forgot.

That is being reversed as we speak, thanks to the new administration. What I am not okay with is EPA taking over the thought process of everything and their insane mental way of freaking out every time someone questions there direction or even motive. Of course you are speaking as an environmentalist who things they have a total and absolute grasp on the future of this country and where we are heading. I on the other hand see you, as many of my lib neighbors, as leaches who use these viewpoints to suck off of the tax payers. Go away.

"EPA taking over the thought process of everything and their insane mental way of freaking out every time someone questions there direction or even motive". Your response is painfully stupid. Just idiotic. I can't hide my disdain for it. You are a dinosaur. You didn't even use "their" correctly and we're supposed to give credence to your perspective.

The future is solid state batteries, solar and wind power, and hopefully fusion. The problem with this country is the 37% of the populace, Trump supporters, who like you, fight things like the introduction of LED lights over incandescent bulbs because 200 jobs will be lost in Fargo, ND. LED bulbs are 90% more efficient and save people money. Your Luddite tendencies imperil our country by making us less competitive on the world stage. China and India are spending billions on alternative energy and you want to keep us reliant on coal. That is idiotic. You need to know that. Stop making stupid decisions. I'm sure my post will trigger the "backfire effect" and you'll tune it out and continue on living in Dunning-Kruger land, but I just had to get it out. Have a good night sir.

[Anonymous]

+1000000

[Anonymous]

It won't matter what stupid, short sighted Trump voters think in regard to fracking, coal and domestic oil production in general soon. Solid state batteries promise 3 times the energy capacity that currently powers most electric cars (ie range of over 400 miles), weather protection from -50 to 150 degrees, non-combustibility, non-corrosive leaching like with liquid batteries, and minutes or seconds of required charging rather than hours. https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Toyota has just noted they'll release a solid state battery car with two years, Volvo said their going all electric by 2019. We'll also start to see short trip autonomous electric driverless airplanes and cars soon. Basically, the writing is on the wall for oil. Of course you'll still see gas car for the next 20 years, but electric tech is ramping up so quickly every manufacturer wants a piece. You idiots who are all about drill baby drill just don't read enough. That's your problem. That and your support for an absolutely inept, toddler with a small hands complex.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I don't get it either. The combustion engine is a 19th century technology and well past it's "prime".

Why are Republicans against recycling? Another mystery.

[Anonymous]

I'm a republican and I love electric cars.

I also support renewable energy - especially if renewable energy helps destroy OPEC and wreck the mostly wretched non-democratic regimes which comprise OPEC.

[Anonymous]

^^^^ meant to add: some are more wretched than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is being reversed as we speak, thanks to the new administration. What I am not okay with is EPA taking over the thought process of everything and their insane mental way of freaking out every time someone questions there direction or even motive. Of course you are speaking as an environmentalist who things they have a total and absolute grasp on the future of this country and where we are heading. I on the other hand see you, as many of my lib neighbors, as leaches who use these viewpoints to suck off of the tax payers. Go away.

DP and your rants seem quite incomprehensible and unhinged to me.

A.) Nobody is shoving Teslas in your face. That comment makes no sense.
B.) Nobody has taken your choice away.
C.) No, there's no grand scheme to control you. Tesla is a company, they make cars. People buy their cars because they like them. If you don't like them, fine, don't buy one.
D.) CA = 'crazy ville?' Unhinged comment. No further commentary needed there.
E.) EPA has not taken over anyone's thought process. Pollution is actually a real thing. When people spew black smoke from their diesel powered 4x4s it actually does make people sick via PM2.5 particulates that are so fine they pass through the lung's membranes and go straight into your blood stream.
F.) You know who's sucking off of taxpayers? Oil and gas companies that have pipelines that spill and poison rivers and farmers fields, coal companies and power plants that fill rivers with toxic coal ash sludge, et cetera - and it ends up being taxpayers bearing the cost of cleanup. They privatize the profits but socialize the cost and risk. So much for free market.
And by the way:
G.) The fossil fuel industry in the US has been subsidized for over 100 years.

Those are realities. And they won't "go away."

Pretty sure you are arguing with a bot or a crazy person. I'm now suspicious of all slightly non-sequitur responses, because it would be really easy to develop a bot that can string together responses based on keywords. The ones that are bizarrely non-responsive suggest to me they are coming from a person who is slighly deranged (so not worth arguing with) or a computher algorithm (so not worth arguing with).

Sadly I've dealt with enough actual human Americans who spewed that kind of bizarre nonsense against alternative energy and electric cars. Makes one wonder if that particular strain of conservatism is actually just a manifestation of some type of dementia.