Daycare celebrating PRIDE. Appropriate?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tell them it is celebrating love. This is not a big deal.

It's a huge deal. Kids will be celebrating something they have no concept of. That's not fair.
the child has to either know exactly what pride is about, or be left out of it until he is old enough to know.

I'm curious, but when did you start celebrating religious holidays with kids. I teach Sunday School. I can tell you that 8th graders still can't really wrap their minds around concepts like virgin births, resurrection, dying for someone's sins, etc . . . And yet they've been celebrating Christmas and Easter since before their first birthday. Are you equally horrified by that?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tell them it is celebrating love. This is not a big deal.

It's a huge deal. Kids will be celebrating something they have no concept of. That's not fair.
the child has to either know exactly what pride is about, or be left out of it until he is old enough to know.

Really? Is that how you feel when you see babies wearing sports gear, cammo print, even college t-shirts? Poor kids, they don't even realize they're rooting for the Yankees since they don't understand baseball? Why are they wearing camouflage onesies when they don't understand war?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tell them it is celebrating love. This is not a big deal.

It's a huge deal. Kids will be celebrating something they have no concept of. That's not fair.
the child has to either know exactly what pride is about, or be left out of it until he is old enough to know.

My four-year-old asked me why there were so many rainbow flags around. I told her that the flags meant, "Everyone is welcome here. No matter who they want to marry, or who they love." That made total sense to her. We didn't even have to talk about sex, because little kids don't really connect marriage and sex. I told her that sometimes boys want to marry girls, like her father and me; and sometimes boys want to marry boys, like her Uncle Chris and her Uncle Joe; and sometimes girls want to marry girls, like her friend Caleb's parents. And that people should marry who they love. This really isn't rocket science.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the public school systems officially celebrate PRIDE too?

Since most public schools are out for the summer, it doesn't come up. But, yes, our public elementary school celebrates families of all types, including (explicitly) ones with same sex parents. We have a rainbow flag hanging in the hall and an organized group went to the pride March a few weeks ago. There are gay teachers too; I think it's great that if my kids are gay, they will know from the beginning that they have the support of their community.

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What is most offensive in this situation is that they're pushing their agenda on you and your kid. Schools- of every level- need to stop doing this. I am in 100% support of gay rights, but don't expect me or my kid to dress up in rainbows just to make your school look good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tell them it is celebrating love. This is not a big deal.

It's a huge deal. Kids will be celebrating something they have no concept of. That's not fair.
the child has to either know exactly what pride is about, or be left out of it until he is old enough to know.

My four-year-old asked me why there were so many rainbow flags around. I told her that the flags meant, "Everyone is welcome here. No matter who they want to marry, or who they love." That made total sense to her. We didn't even have to talk about sex, because little kids don't really connect marriage and sex. I told her that sometimes boys want to marry girls, like her father and me; and sometimes boys want to marry boys, like her Uncle Chris and her Uncle Joe; and sometimes girls want to marry girls, like her friend Caleb's parents. And that people should marry who they love. This really isn't rocket science.

This is cool but leave out the snark.

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Hmmm I was about to post that I thought this was inappropriate, but this well-written post has made me re-think that. Thanks, PP! That said, I do think it's something hard to actually *explain* to a child. I had a hard enough time explaining MLK to my 3-year-old, and that's even something she can SEE (as in, she sees different skin tones, knows her parents have two different skin colors, etc.) I don't really know how I'd explain that people love differently, when she doesn't even really understand the concept of love other than a familial-type thing.

I think people really overthink this. My kid, who is four, can understand that Aunt Jane is married to Uncle John, and Uncle Joe is married to Uncle Bob. She cannot understand why some people would think that Uncle Joe and Uncle Bob, whom she adores, are perverted and going to hell, but I don't need to worry about that yet. I just need to teach her that there are different ways to make a family. Sometimes, a mommy marries a daddy, but sometimes, a mommy marries another mommy, or a daddy marries another daddy. And all the mommies and daddies love their children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm tell them it is celebrating love. This is not a big deal.

It's a huge deal. Kids will be celebrating something they have no concept of. That's not fair.
the child has to either know exactly what pride is about, or be left out of it until he is old enough to know.

My four-year-old asked me why there were so many rainbow flags around. I told her that the flags meant, "Everyone is welcome here. No matter who they want to marry, or who they love." That made total sense to her. We didn't even have to talk about sex, because little kids don't really connect marriage and sex. I told her that sometimes boys want to marry girls, like her father and me; and sometimes boys want to marry boys, like her Uncle Chris and her Uncle Joe; and sometimes girls want to marry girls, like her friend Caleb's parents. And that people should marry who they love. This really isn't rocket science.

This is cool but leave out the snark.

I honestly didn't mean it as snark. I think that people really overthink this and make it more complicated and fraught than it needs to be, because adults get hung up on the sexual aspect of it, in a way that they don't get hung up on with heterosexual couples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who has a problem celebrating pride?? You're nuts.

I do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who has a problem celebrating pride?? You're nuts.

I do.

I do too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is most offensive in this situation is that they're pushing their agenda on you and your kid. Schools- of every level- need to stop doing this. I am in 100% support of gay rights, but don't expect me or my kid to dress up in rainbows just to make your school look good.

+1,000,000

I'm same as you - LGBT is fine by me, but all this liberal political hogwash in schools needs to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is most offensive in this situation is that they're pushing their agenda on you and your kid. Schools- of every level- need to stop doing this. I am in 100% support of gay rights, but don't expect me or my kid to dress up in rainbows just to make your school look good.

Yes, this. I support gay marriage and LGBTQ rights. But there's no need to co-opt my preschooler to validate anyone's sexuality or lifestyle.

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Why are people saying this is political? Hilarious. And small-minded.

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We took our 2.5 y/o to a pride party. When he asked if the party was a birthday party we said no, that it was a rainbow party. He seemed to accept that as perfectly reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate.

and yes I like gay people blahblah.

Sexuality is not a topic for daycare.

Lol- they're not discussing sex positions! Most daycares in this area will have kids with gay parents. This is nice, in my opinion, that they're celebrating Pride.

And what exactly will they tell the kids they are celebrating? So ridiculous.

Families?

Love?

The fact that you can marry whoever you want?

Being true to yourself?

Kids celebrate all sorts of things they don't understand. It's how families and cultures transmit values. My kid celebrated his first Christmas at 9 months old. The only thing he understood was that the paper was pretty but mommy wouldn't let you eat it. He sang "Happy Birthday" to his Grandpa with glee, long before he had understanding that people were born. And he can wear a rainbow, and know that the day is important, even if he only has a vague understanding that it has to do with Uncle Billy and Uncle Jack, or marriage, or whatever. But later, when he's 15 and trying to figure out whether his mom is someone he can talk to about his own questions about his own sexuality, he'll have the security of knowing that his parents are deeply committed to gay rights, in small part because they still have that picture of him in his rainbow Tshirt in preschool in the photo album.

This, x1,000