For those parents really invested in the AAP process beginning in kindergarten or first grade...

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think you groomed your child for their eventual AAP admission?

-Prepping
-Creating work samples with them at home with the intent to submit them OR saving work samples for years
-Looking for potential people to write letters of recommendation well before the deadlines

Do you also think that you can help ensure your child is admitted by doing any of these things?

I have two in AAP already...but I've wondered if parents are in the know, do you think it is easier to get admission that way?

Short answer is No. A key component of the admission process is the child's teacher recommendation (Forget what it's called). No amount of prep can work around this.

- Test Prep. will only help familiarize the kid with the test. I don't think it improves results.

- Work samples - Begin gathering work samples as early as you can. Keep an eye out for good samples of the child's work at school or home. preserve it with some notes so you can write about it. It could be a story, ability to solve problems in pre-K, creating their own game with stuff lying around the house, etc. Whatever you think shows extra ability. Provide these to the teacher or include in your packet. Don't expect the teacher to do this on your behalf. Though most teachers are very conscientious, they have a lot of kids to think about.

- Recommendation letters - This is important. Identify people who interact with your child on a consistent basis. Your parents, His pre-K teacher, his coach in Robotics, Odyssey of the mind team, etc (yes, you have to have the kid be involved in one of these).

All of the above falls under "Prepping" in my opinion. It's up to you to decide if you want to increase the level of certainty that your child will get into AAP.

AAP as it is now is not really for the smartest kids but for the most hard working. So all kids deserve a chance to be in it and it's up to the parents to make it happen..

This poster is very confused.

Letters of recommendation and work samples from prek are ridiculous!! If you can't find something more recent, forget it.

Your kid does NOT need to be in robotics or odyssey of the mind. My two athletic kids were in sports when they were in second grade.

Aap is NOT about the most hard working kids. Sure, some hard working kids are admitted, but lots and lots of slackers are, too. Go walk outside an aap classroom and look at some of the poor work samples. Doesn't mean the kid isn't really bright, but may be 2e or just lazy.

I agree with the first poster here. It is mostly just for hard working kids. I have a child and I know of 1 other child in her grade, in aap, that are BORED to tears and becoming lazy because they are waiting for all of the "hard-working" kids to comprehend the materials, especially in math. It's a ridiculous excuse for an advanced academics program. MOST of the kids would learn just fine in the regular classroom. My kid becomes lazy when sitting in a class all day doing work that is years behind her. If you sat at your desk at work all day and your job was to do a worksheet of addition problems everyday, you'd slack off also. I resent that program for not creating an environment for kids that actually NEED something different than the regular classroom. When I have to listen to parents talk about their kids crying and fighting with them over homework and studying it makes me want to tell them to take their kid out because they are slowing my kid down! It's such a joke.

This kind of attitude really pisses me off. I have a kid that did not do great on the tests -- at that point in her life (second grade), she under performed. She did not understand something in the instructions, and got frustrated and stopped. She scored about 121 on the CogAT.

After getting the scores back, I talked to the teacher -- both the AART and her 2nd grade teacher. The AART was also her math teacher that year. Both teachers said that we should refer; we did. She was admitted without appeals.

So now, she is done with AAP; she is a Freshman in HS. Yet, I continue to help out in her ES; I coach science olympiad, and run into her old teachers. They definitely remember her -- and even some of her insights on writing assignments. She never held the class back, but she was never the most accelerated in math (math remains her weakest subject; she is currently getting a B+ in Alg. II Honors).

We did not prep for the tests. We did not prep for the SOL's or the IAAT. You see, my thinking is I do not want to put the pressure on my kid to cause extra stress. And I don't.

What I wrote isn't an attitude first off. It's facts. My kid and at least one other we know are twiddling their thumbs all day because the county has turned aap into a free-for-all to any parents who want to brag that their kid is in aap. They have no actual resources for kids that have super high intelligence (top 1% of country). Some kids actually NEED a different or much more accelerated learning environment than most kids. Hard working kids are hard working, so why do they need a curriculum that's faster and deeper than the rest of the kids. It adds this "pressure" you mention and causes "extra stress" from what I can see to many of the kids.

Your post is all over the place, so I'm not even sure what your point is except that your trying to defend why your kid was in app since she wasn't a good test taker. So what? I never said it was all about the test scores, nor do I believe that, but many of the kids are struggling with math and science or trying to keep up with the reading. My kid is struggling with her day because she has to wait for the class to catch on and in the meantime ends up reading a good portion of the day.

Your child doesn't NEED anything more than AAP. You WANT more. Feel free to invest in private if it's so important to you. My kid has been the kid in the class who is years ahead twiddling his thumb. I supplemented at home. I didn't think taxpayers owe my kid some special classroom for only the top 1 percent. AAP will give kids a solid foundation for excelling in high school. That's all I think our tax dollars should do. Beyond that, parents can foot the bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think you groomed your child for their eventual AAP admission?

-Prepping
-Creating work samples with them at home with the intent to submit them OR saving work samples for years
-Looking for potential people to write letters of recommendation well before the deadlines

Do you also think that you can help ensure your child is admitted by doing any of these things?

I have two in AAP already...but I've wondered if parents are in the know, do you think it is easier to get admission that way?

Short answer is No. A key component of the admission process is the child's teacher recommendation (Forget what it's called). No amount of prep can work around this.

- Test Prep. will only help familiarize the kid with the test. I don't think it improves results.

- Work samples - Begin gathering work samples as early as you can. Keep an eye out for good samples of the child's work at school or home. preserve it with some notes so you can write about it. It could be a story, ability to solve problems in pre-K, creating their own game with stuff lying around the house, etc. Whatever you think shows extra ability. Provide these to the teacher or include in your packet. Don't expect the teacher to do this on your behalf. Though most teachers are very conscientious, they have a lot of kids to think about.

- Recommendation letters - This is important. Identify people who interact with your child on a consistent basis. Your parents, His pre-K teacher, his coach in Robotics, Odyssey of the mind team, etc (yes, you have to have the kid be involved in one of these).

All of the above falls under "Prepping" in my opinion. It's up to you to decide if you want to increase the level of certainty that your child will get into AAP.

AAP as it is now is not really for the smartest kids but for the most hard working. So all kids deserve a chance to be in it and it's up to the parents to make it happen..

This poster is very confused.

Letters of recommendation and work samples from prek are ridiculous!! If you can't find something more recent, forget it.

Your kid does NOT need to be in robotics or odyssey of the mind. My two athletic kids were in sports when they were in second grade.

Aap is NOT about the most hard working kids. Sure, some hard working kids are admitted, but lots and lots of slackers are, too. Go walk outside an aap classroom and look at some of the poor work samples. Doesn't mean the kid isn't really bright, but may be 2e or just lazy.

I agree with the first poster here. It is mostly just for hard working kids. I have a child and I know of 1 other child in her grade, in aap, that are BORED to tears and becoming lazy because they are waiting for all of the "hard-working" kids to comprehend the materials, especially in math. It's a ridiculous excuse for an advanced academics program. MOST of the kids would learn just fine in the regular classroom. My kid becomes lazy when sitting in a class all day doing work that is years behind her. If you sat at your desk at work all day and your job was to do a worksheet of addition problems everyday, you'd slack off also. I resent that program for not creating an environment for kids that actually NEED something different than the regular classroom. When I have to listen to parents talk about their kids crying and fighting with them over homework and studying it makes me want to tell them to take their kid out because they are slowing my kid down! It's such a joke.

This kind of attitude really pisses me off. I have a kid that did not do great on the tests -- at that point in her life (second grade), she under performed. She did not understand something in the instructions, and got frustrated and stopped. She scored about 121 on the CogAT.

After getting the scores back, I talked to the teacher -- both the AART and her 2nd grade teacher. The AART was also her math teacher that year. Both teachers said that we should refer; we did. She was admitted without appeals.

So now, she is done with AAP; she is a Freshman in HS. Yet, I continue to help out in her ES; I coach science olympiad, and run into her old teachers. They definitely remember her -- and even some of her insights on writing assignments. She never held the class back, but she was never the most accelerated in math (math remains her weakest subject; she is currently getting a B+ in Alg. II Honors).

We did not prep for the tests. We did not prep for the SOL's or the IAAT. You see, my thinking is I do not want to put the pressure on my kid to cause extra stress. And I don't.

What I wrote isn't an attitude first off. It's facts. My kid and at least one other we know are twiddling their thumbs all day because the county has turned aap into a free-for-all to any parents who want to brag that their kid is in aap. They have no actual resources for kids that have super high intelligence (top 1% of country). Some kids actually NEED a different or much more accelerated learning environment than most kids. Hard working kids are hard working, so why do they need a curriculum that's faster and deeper than the rest of the kids. It adds this "pressure" you mention and causes "extra stress" from what I can see to many of the kids.

Your post is all over the place, so I'm not even sure what your point is except that your trying to defend why your kid was in app since she wasn't a good test taker. So what? I never said it was all about the test scores, nor do I believe that, but many of the kids are struggling with math and science or trying to keep up with the reading. My kid is struggling with her day because she has to wait for the class to catch on and in the meantime ends up reading a good portion of the day.

AAP has plenty of resources for kids in the top 1% of the country. It is the kids in the top .01% that have trouble and then you just have to supplement at home or have your child skip a grade.

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Did you read the bolded parts above? PP who spent some time reviewing the material said she trusted the judgement of professionals but she didn't listen to the professionals' advise to not prep at all. They have prepared the tests specifically for kids who have had absolutely no exposure to the questions. Part of the testing is to see how kids do with questions that they didn't know to expect. It's been developed that way, specifically for that purpose. So don't say you trust the professionals and then do any kind of prepping, less than 5 mins or more than 5 mins.

Cripes, quit being so anal. Yes, we spent 5 minutes (that's an exageration, more like 1 minute) looking at some sample questions online to make sure our kid new how to take a test. We did this because, (1) our kid doesn't always pay attention, and (2) the teacher suggested it.

Equating looking at two example questions with prepping is pure dingbattery. It's the equivalent of making sure your kid knows how to use a mouse and keyboard before taking their first computerized exam.

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Growing up my ES didn't have AAP or similar... was in a class together with everyone and we just grouped by ability on a per subject basis... advanced math, remedial spelling, standard reading, etc.

My teachers always had to come up with other things to keep me stimulated and occupied or I'd get in trouble for talking to classmates. Sometimes it was special workbooks... sometimes they'd task me with finding special long words to add to the 'super-spellers' test for that week (I remember finding and calling out a long word with a typo in one spelling book). By mid-5th grade I'd gone through all the math materials the school had available, so I'd sit outside with a small whiteboard and tutor classmates on things like long division, fractions, etc. It was kinda fun and if when I would TEACH something to a peer, I certainly learned the material on a deeper level than just being able to do it... sometimes have to show a different technique or explain it a different way than what was intuitive to me, because different people understand in different ways.

Anyway, you could say a kid shouldn't HAVE to teach their peers or find their own spelling words or what not, but to me that was a good solution of keeping me engaged and learning material while staying with my peer group (my parents were approached about skipping a grade, but I'm glad they declined). Just sharing my thoughts/exp. for those with kids feeling bored in class... IMHO a good teacher should be able to come up with creative solutions to give them extra projects or assignments, no matter the class level / composition.

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Where as my spouse, who was the smartest kid in class, is still pretty bitter about having to constantly teach classmates rather than receiving true extension work that would have better prepared for the rigors of college.

The key to that is a GOOD teacher, and we've been quite disappointed in seeing how short the supply of them is in our allegedly top-notch public school.

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Did you read the bolded parts above? PP who spent some time reviewing the material said she trusted the judgement of professionals but she didn't listen to the professionals' advise to not prep at all. They have prepared the tests specifically for kids who have had absolutely no exposure to the questions. Part of the testing is to see how kids do with questions that they didn't know to expect. It's been developed that way, specifically for that purpose. So don't say you trust the professionals and then do any kind of prepping, less than 5 mins or more than 5 mins.

Cripes, quit being so anal. Yes, we spent 5 minutes (that's an exageration, more like 1 minute) looking at some sample questions online to make sure our kid new how to take a test. We did this because, (1) our kid doesn't always pay attention, and (2) the teacher suggested it.

Equating looking at two example questions with prepping is pure dingbattery. It's the equivalent of making sure your kid knows how to use a mouse and keyboard before taking their first computerized exam.

1 minute, five minutes, you still were trying to give an advantage to your child that you didn't think he'd have without it. Cheating is cheating, prepping is prepping. Think of all the other kids whose parents followed the rules and just made sure their kids got a good night's sleep and a good breakfast. They probably could also have benefited from a little familiarity with the test. But keep telling yourself you didn't prep and didn't lift a hand to help get your kid into AAP while others, gasp, prepped.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying to shut down the test prep factories and dictate to other families what they do with their kids. That doesn't mean I can't think it's pushy and overbearing and runs the risk of putting a kid who doesn't belong in AAP there on the idea that they'll get through by sheer grit. As an 8-year-old. For every kid that works out great for, there's going to be one that needs therapy for failing to live up to his parent's expectations. I don't get the AAP or bust mentality, though. I hope the parents in my kid's class next year aren't of that variety.

Agree! I'm a parent of a HS kid that was in AAP. We didn't push, but I saw others that did. My kid always felt behind because we didn't do all of the "enrichment" on the side. But I think now that she is in HS, my DD has a better sense of self and what she wants than many of the hothoused kids. She's a perfectionist and self-motivated (which isn't necessarily a good thing). I think if we had pushed her it would have been horrible for her to try to live up to our expectations and her own. BTW, it seems like in HS, all of that enrichment in math seems to lose it's value and things even out. She keeps up with the other kids that were pushed.

Do what works for you. I just caution that all of this pushing and "enriching" has a price in some kids' mental health. I've seen it.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think you groomed your child for their eventual AAP admission?

I agree with the first poster here. It is mostly just for hard working kids. I have a child and I know of 1 other child in her grade, in aap, that are BORED to tears and becoming lazy because they are waiting for all of the "hard-working" kids to comprehend the materials, especially in math. It's a ridiculous excuse for an advanced academics program. MOST of the kids would learn just fine in the regular classroom. My kid becomes lazy when sitting in a class all day doing work that is years behind her. If you sat at your desk at work all day and your job was to do a worksheet of addition problems everyday, you'd slack off also. I resent that program for not creating an environment for kids that actually NEED something different than the regular classroom. When I have to listen to parents talk about their kids crying
and fighting with them over homework and studying it makes me want to tell them to take their kid out because they are slowing my kid down! It's such a joke.

This kind of attitude really pisses me off. I have a kid that did not do great on the tests -- at that point in her life (second grade), she under performed. She did not understand something in the instructions, and got frustrated and stopped. She scored about 121 on the CogAT.

After getting the scores back, I talked to the teacher -- both the AART and her 2nd grade teacher. The AART was also her math teacher that year. Both teachers said that we should refer; we did. She was admitted without appeals.

So now, she is done with AAP; she is a Freshman in HS. Yet, I continue to help out in her ES; I coach science olympiad, and run into her old teachers. They definitely remember her -- and even some of her insights on writing assignments. She never held the class back, but she was never the most accelerated in math (math remains her weakest subject; she is currently getting a B+ in Alg. II Honors).

We did not prep for the tests. We did not prep for the SOL's or the IAAT. You see, my thinking is I do not want to put the pressure on my kid to cause extra stress. And I don't.

What I wrote isn't an attitude first off. It's facts. My kid and at least one other we know are twiddling their thumbs all day because the county has turned aap into a free-for-all to any parents who want to brag that their kid is in aap. They have no actual resources for kids that have super high intelligence (top 1% of country). Some kids actually NEED a different or much more accelerated learning environment than most kids. Hard working kids are hard working, so why do they need a curriculum that's faster and deeper than the rest of the kids. It adds this "pressure" you mention and causes "extra stress" from what I can see to many of the kids.

Your post is all over the place, so I'm not even sure what your point is except that your trying to defend why your kid was in app since she wasn't a good test taker. So what? I never said it was all about the test scores, nor do I believe that, but many of the kids are struggling with math and science or trying to keep up with the reading. My kid is struggling with her day because she has to wait for the class to catch on and in the meantime ends up reading a good portion of the day.

Your child doesn't NEED anything more than AAP. You WANT more. Feel free to invest in private if it's so important to you. My kid has been the kid in the class who is years ahead twiddling his thumb. I supplemented at home. I didn't think taxpayers owe my kid some special classroom for only the top 1 percent. AAP will give kids a solid foundation for excelling in high school. That's all I think our tax dollars should do. Beyond that, parents can foot the bill.

Let me rephrase...my child NEEDS something more than AAP IF she is to learn ANY new material in the vast majority of the curriculum. Private schools can not provide the curriculum that she would need either. We can supplement at home, but then it's a waste of her time sitting in the classroom for hours and not learning anything. I'm not sure how to fit in other activities to help her be a well-rounded person and contributing family member if I have to basically provide a separate math and science curriculum for her. In addition, she's expected to sit through the original curriculum, pay attention, and complete the work - would you like to go to work everyday and complete a worksheet full of single digit addition problems over and over for hours. I think at some point you'd become frustrated.

I'd pay FFX CTY or anyone else if they could provide the needed curriculum at an appropriate pace. Beyond homeschooling, which isn't an option since both her parents are contributing members of society in similar fields that she's actually interested in. I'm don't feel bad for wishing the AAP program was actually for highly intelligent kids and not just "hard-working" or smart kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying to shut down the test prep factories and dictate to other families what they do with their kids. That doesn't mean I can't think it's pushy and overbearing and runs the risk of putting a kid who doesn't belong in AAP there on the idea that they'll get through by sheer grit. As an 8-year-old. For every kid that works out great for, there's going to be one that needs therapy for failing to live up to his parent's expectations. I don't get the AAP or bust mentality, though. I hope the parents in my kid's class next year aren't of that variety.

Agree! I'm a parent of a HS kid that was in AAP. We didn't push, but I saw others that did. My kid always felt behind because we didn't do all of the "enrichment" on the side. But I think now that she is in HS, my DD has a better sense of self and what she wants than many of the hothoused kids. She's a perfectionist and self-motivated (which isn't necessarily a good thing). I think if we had pushed her it would have been horrible for her to try to live up to our expectations and her own. BTW, it seems like in HS, all of that enrichment in math seems to lose it's value and things even out. She keeps up with the other kids that were pushed.

Do what works for you. I just caution that all of this pushing and "enriching" has a price in some kids' mental health. I've seen it.

I sure hope the bolded part is true. My kids are highly intelligent (IQ test 99+%), but I do not supplement at home. They are in AAP and have complained to me that many of their classmates go to Kumon and knew the materials before hands. They felt lesser relative to their classmates because they are not in the most advanced groups. I hope that just by going through the AAP class materials is enough for them given their innate ability. After school hours are for music, arts and sports. Not Kumon.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think you groomed your child for their eventual AAP admission?

I agree with the first poster here. It is mostly just for hard working kids. I have a child and I know of 1 other child in her grade, in aap, that are BORED to tears and becoming lazy because they are waiting for all of the "hard-working" kids to comprehend the materials, especially in math. It's a ridiculous excuse for an advanced academics program. MOST of the kids would learn just fine in the regular classroom. My kid becomes lazy when sitting in a class all day doing work that is years behind her. If you sat at your desk at work all day and your job was to do a worksheet of addition problems everyday, you'd slack off also. I resent that program for not creating an environment for kids that actually NEED something different than the regular classroom. When I have to listen to parents talk about their kids crying
and fighting with them over homework and studying it makes me want to tell them to take their kid out because they are slowing my kid down! It's such a joke.

This kind of attitude really pisses me off. I have a kid that did not do great on the tests -- at that point in her life (second grade), she under performed. She did not understand something in the instructions, and got frustrated and stopped. She scored about 121 on the CogAT.

After getting the scores back, I talked to the teacher -- both the AART and her 2nd grade teacher. The AART was also her math teacher that year. Both teachers said that we should refer; we did. She was admitted without appeals.

So now, she is done with AAP; she is a Freshman in HS. Yet, I continue to help out in her ES; I coach science olympiad, and run into her old teachers. They definitely remember her -- and even some of her insights on writing assignments. She never held the class back, but she was never the most accelerated in math (math remains her weakest subject; she is currently getting a B+ in Alg. II Honors).

We did not prep for the tests. We did not prep for the SOL's or the IAAT. You see, my thinking is I do not want to put the pressure on my kid to cause extra stress. And I don't.

What I wrote isn't an attitude first off. It's facts. My kid and at least one other we know are twiddling their thumbs all day because the county has turned aap into a free-for-all to any parents who want to brag that their kid is in aap. They have no actual resources for kids that have super high intelligence (top 1% of country). Some kids actually NEED a different or much more accelerated learning environment than most kids. Hard working kids are hard working, so why do they need a curriculum that's faster and deeper than the rest of the kids. It adds this "pressure" you mention and causes "extra stress" from what I can see to many of the kids.

Your post is all over the place, so I'm not even sure what your point is except that your trying to defend why your kid was in app since she wasn't a good test taker. So what? I never said it was all about the test scores, nor do I believe that, but many of the kids are struggling with math and science or trying to keep up with the reading. My kid is struggling with her day because she has to wait for the class to catch on and in the meantime ends up reading a good portion of the day.

Your child doesn't NEED anything more than AAP. You WANT more. Feel free to invest in private if it's so important to you. My kid has been the kid in the class who is years ahead twiddling his thumb. I supplemented at home. I didn't think taxpayers owe my kid some special classroom for only the top 1 percent. AAP will give kids a solid foundation for excelling in high school. That's all I think our tax dollars should do. Beyond that, parents can foot the bill.

Let me rephrase...my child NEEDS something more than AAP IF she is to learn ANY new material in the vast majority of the curriculum. Private schools can not provide the curriculum that she would need either. We can supplement at home, but then it's a waste of her time sitting in the classroom for hours and not learning anything. I'm not sure how to fit in other activities to help her be a well-rounded person and contributing family member if I have to basically provide a separate math and science curriculum for her. In addition, she's expected to sit through the original curriculum, pay attention, and complete the work - would you like to go to work everyday and complete a worksheet full of single digit addition problems over and over for hours. I think at some point you'd become frustrated.

I'd pay FFX CTY or anyone else if they could provide the needed curriculum at an appropriate pace. Beyond homeschooling, which isn't an option since both her parents are contributing members of society in similar fields that she's actually interested in. I'm don't feel bad for wishing the AAP program was actually for highly intelligent kids and not just "hard-working" or smart kids.

And I don't feel bad thinking that AAP is enough at the taxpayers' expense, and that many people put their kids first by homeschooling if school isn't working for their child. You choose not to homeschool, which by the way would also count as being a contributing member of society, so you get to deal with what FCPS provides.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying to shut down the test prep factories and dictate to other families what they do with their kids. That doesn't mean I can't think it's pushy and overbearing and runs the risk of putting a kid who doesn't belong in AAP there on the idea that they'll get through by sheer grit. As an 8-year-old. For every kid that works out great for, there's going to be one that needs therapy for failing to live up to his parent's expectations. I don't get the AAP or bust mentality, though. I hope the parents in my kid's class next year aren't of that variety.

Agree! I'm a parent of a HS kid that was in AAP. We didn't push, but I saw others that did. My kid always felt behind because we didn't do all of the "enrichment" on the side. But I think now that she is in HS, my DD has a better sense of self and what she wants than many of the hothoused kids. She's a perfectionist and self-motivated (which isn't necessarily a good thing). I think if we had pushed her it would have been horrible for her to try to live up to our expectations and her own. BTW, it seems like in HS, all of that enrichment in math seems to lose it's value and things even out. She keeps up with the other kids that were pushed.

Do what works for you. I just caution that all of this pushing and "enriching" has a price in some kids' mental health. I've seen it.

I sure hope the bolded part is true. My kids are highly intelligent (IQ test 99+%), but I do not supplement at home. They are in AAP and have complained to me that many of their classmates go to Kumon and knew the materials before hands. They felt lesser relative to their classmates because they are not in the most advanced groups. I hope that just by going through the AAP class materials is enough for them given their innate ability. After school hours are for music, arts and sports. Not Kumon.

I point out to my kid that she knows it without the prep and she should be proud of that. We discuss how we don;t do all of that extra and why (our values). She gets it.