UVA Decisions Out Tonight

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, that makes sense because UVA has a guaranteed--yes, I said guaranteed--transfer arrangement with NVCC. Meet he criteria and you're in,no questions no askedAnd the criteria are not really that demanding. I would imagine that getting UMC parents to bite on this would be tough (percieved stigma and other irrational fears). But I don't see how anyone can rationally overlook this easy way into a fantastic school. And at the end of the day, your UVA degree is just as good as anyone else's. I'll stop now.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Yup. The legacy transfers must wait behind the NVCC kids too.


Cest la vie.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Yup. The legacy transfers must wait behind the NVCC kids too.



True, or is that snark? Idon't know the answer. I have a non-legacy DS at UVA. I tried a quick search about stats for waive-ins for legacies but either didn't look in the right place or didn't try hard enough. Like most institutions the emphasis seems to be on getting first generation kids instead of legacies. https://www.news.virginia.edu/content/increase-first-generation-students-highlights-applicant-pool-class-2019


Not snark, but fact. The legacy office says so.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Yup. The legacy transfers must wait behind the NVCC kids too.



True, or is that snark? Idon't know the answer. I have a non-legacy DS at UVA. I tried a quick search about stats for waive-ins for legacies but either didn't look in the right place or didn't try hard enough. Like most institutions the emphasis seems to be on getting first generation kids instead of legacies. https://www.news.virginia.edu/content/increase-first-generation-students-highlights-applicant-pool-class-2019


Not snark, but fact. The legacy office says so.


UVA's common data set checks "alumni relation" as very important and has a dedicated office for legacy relations where prospective students/alumni families may get advice. Michigan and UVA are two known in-States that favor legacy admits. Also, if you are UVA alumni and live out-of-state, your child will be considered "in-state" during the admissions process - a considerable advantage if you look at admissions statistics.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Yup. The legacy transfers must wait behind the NVCC kids too.



True, or is that snark? Idon't know the answer. I have a non-legacy DS at UVA. I tried a quick search about stats for waive-ins for legacies but either didn't look in the right place or didn't try hard enough. Like most institutions the emphasis seems to be on getting first generation kids instead of legacies. https://www.news.virginia.edu/content/increase-first-generation-students-highlights-applicant-pool-class-2019


Not snark, but fact. The legacy office says so.


UVA's common data set checks "alumni relation" as very important and has a dedicated office for legacy relations where prospective students/alumni families may get advice. Michigan and UVA are two known in-States that favor legacy admits. Also, if you are UVA alumni and live out-of-state, your child will be considered "in-state" during the admissions process - a considerable advantage if you look at admissions statistics.


Being the child of an out of state Alumni might even be better than being in state. You still have to pay OOS tuition, so I could see that being a plus for UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, now you know who:

http://research.schev.edu/apps/info/CC_Feedback.Northern-Virginia-Community-College.ashx

2014-15 207 NVCC students transferred to UVA.



Thanks. I've never seen that before. I still don't know anyone's child who has done it.



I used to listen to Slate's "Getting In" podcast
http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/getting_in/2015/09/getting_in_a_podcast_about_applying_to_college.html

I specifically asked about the perceived value of the VCCS guaranteed admissions programs on the air. A former dean of admissions at UVA, whose name escapes me right now, answered my question. He said these programs are right for the right kind of student, one who is often more mature and independent. He said there is a lot less handholding and therefore community college kids need to be in charge. He thought it was a great way for people to get a degree from a great school like UVA, and for less money. He said that students who challenged themselves in high school with IB or AP classes and did well should have no,problem meeting the standards of the guaranteed admissions program.
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It also amazes me how many smart people on this board cannot seem to find the basic information like the the transfer stats on VCCS to UVA, etc. that is out there. Didn't do well in the research area in school, eh?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, now you know who:

http://research.schev.edu/apps/info/CC_Feedback.Northern-Virginia-Community-College.ashx

2014-15 207 NVCC students transferred to UVA.



Thanks. I've never seen that before. I still don't know anyone's child who has done it.


My roommate at UVA was a transfer from community college.


How was s/he perceived by other UVA students?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, now you know who:

http://research.schev.edu/apps/info/CC_Feedback.Northern-Virginia-Community-College.ashx

2014-15 207 NVCC students transferred to UVA.



Thanks. I've never seen that before. I still don't know anyone's child who has done it.


My roommate at UVA was a transfer from community college.


How was s/he perceived by other UVA students?


My roommate found her niche pretty easily. I was a transfer too, but from another OOS public. To be honest, UVA is so damn BIG. No one cares what your "pedigree" is. I had a multitude of friends from TJ, Echols Scholars, lazy high school student friends, etc...

I loved my time there. However, I found it very impersonal. I have a high school looking at colleges, and we have discussed the pros and cons of large universities.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, now you know who:

http://research.schev.edu/apps/info/CC_Feedback.Northern-Virginia-Community-College.ashx

2014-15 207 NVCC students transferred to UVA.



Thanks. I've never seen that before. I still don't know anyone's child who has done it.


My roommate at UVA was a transfer from community college.


How was s/he perceived by other UVA students?


My roommate found her niche pretty easily. I was a transfer too, but from another OOS public. To be honest, UVA is so damn BIG. No one cares what your "pedigree" is. I had a multitude of friends from TJ, Echols Scholars, lazy high school student friends, etc...

I loved my time there. However, I found it very impersonal. I have a high school looking at colleges, and we have discussed the pros and cons of large universities.




That's the benefit of starting there as a first year, if you can get in. When I went to college, I knew no one on day one. When DD arrived at UVA she knew at least 100 kids from the Facebook class of 2020 pages that the incoming students start themselves (highly recommended you have your student do this wherever they go). DD had already located old friends from private schools she had gone to who were going, arranged car pools, found a Christian group she liked, and a bunch of engineering nerds too. The night we dropped her off, the whole group met up for dinner. I didn't have that advantage going in to a small college - just the "face book". A friend had asked why not the NVCC way and, for us, that's the answer. DD is thrilled to be at UVA and is sucking up every opportunity that it offers. and being in-state it's a very good deal. Also the professors all know her, she's already declared in her major, part of the debating society and school paper. That's the part of college that is difficult to replicate at NVCC and transfer (and I'm the person who doesn't know any students or parents of students who have done it, although they undoubtedly do).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Neighbor's daughter didn't get in. . She's crushed.


She can try to transfer in.



You're right about going to NVCC, taking the right courses and maintaining the required GPA. The peculiar thing is that no one does it, at least in my own experience of watching two huge high school classes go thru the college app process. I have a DC at UVA right now. The program is a real smart move, especially if cost is an issue, but maintain the GPA at NVCC (remember these are college grades, not high school grading) is tough. Also, a lot of kids drop out of NVCC. Finally, my DC as a rising HS senior took a class at NVCC and the professor was beyond horrible. She was truly just phoning it in as an adjunct.

The other interesting fact I've learned from reading College Confidential is that regular transfers (coming in from somewhere other than NVCC) are placed behind the NVCC transfers. So apparently someone is coming in to UVA from NVCC but I don't know who. Those who are transferring in from say GMU or any private, go behind the NVCC applicants - so it's a lot easier to say one can transfer in than it really is.


Well, now you know who:

http://research.schev.edu/apps/info/CC_Feedback.Northern-Virginia-Community-College.ashx

2014-15 207 NVCC students transferred to UVA.



Thanks. I've never seen that before. I still don't know anyone's child who has done it.


My roommate at UVA was a transfer from community college.


How was s/he perceived by other UVA students?


My roommate found her niche pretty easily. I was a transfer too, but from another OOS public. To be honest, UVA is so damn BIG. No one cares what your "pedigree" is. I had a multitude of friends from TJ, Echols Scholars, lazy high school student friends, etc...

I loved my time there. However, I found it very impersonal. I have a high school looking at colleges, and we have discussed the pros and cons of large universities.




That's the benefit of starting there as a first year, if you can get in. When I went to college, I knew no one on day one. When DD arrived at UVA she knew at least 100 kids from the Facebook class of 2020 pages that the incoming students start themselves (highly recommended you have your student do this wherever they go). DD had already located old friends from private schools she had gone to who were going, arranged car pools, found a Christian group she liked, and a bunch of engineering nerds too. The night we dropped her off, the whole group met up for dinner. I didn't have that advantage going in to a small college - just the "face book". A friend had asked why not the NVCC way and, for us, that's the answer. DD is thrilled to be at UVA and is sucking up every opportunity that it offers. and being in-state it's a very good deal. Also the professors all know her, she's already declared in her major, part of the debating society and school paper. That's the part of college that is difficult to replicate at NVCC and transfer (and I'm the person who doesn't know any students or parents of students who have done it, although they undoubtedly do).


I'm the PP who transferred in. I had of plenty of friends coming in as a second year even without the benefit of meeting people on Facebook or 1st year dorms. I'm not going to out myself, but I was admitted as a 1st year, turned down the acceptance to pursue a more highly ranked major at another OOS public. It didn't work out and I came back home and to UVA.

I think the problem of finding friends as a transfer is a bit overblown. I easily had 30+ people from my high school attending UVA already.

The impersonal part I mentioned was about my major department and overall educational experience. In retrospect, I think I should gone to a smaller school (less than 10K maybe), to have the opportunity to really get to know my professors, etc...
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