Americans traveling internationally... and worried about being let back while being openly critical

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, far fetched. Way far fetched. You watch to much news, anyone with a valid Passport is automaticly allowed back in.

Two weeks ago, I'd have agreed with you. Today? Not so much.

+1 The guy is uhinged. Doesn't think.

You can always tell a whackjob by their random acts of capitalization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have been openly critical about the Trump administration, what are your thoughts on this concern? If you are an American citizen and are interested in traveling internationally (for leisure or business), do you have concerns about things shifting, and experiencing difficulty getting through immigration when arriving back in the US?

What if you are a person of color, or with less than "white" roots, and have a non-Anglo name? Is this far-fetched or something to be concerned about when making international travel plans?

If I were you, I'd certainly relocate to Liberia.

Much more peaceful and respectful and culturally appropriate people.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are a US citizen and not born in one of the seven countries on the banned list you will have no issues travelling through US immigration and customs whatsoever.

Panic and run around like a chicken with its head cut off if you want to make yourself feel better, but that is simply the reality. Trump's EO is a terrible one and misplaced but it will not affect you unless you are, as mentioned, from one of the seven countries.

You must be white and have an Anglo name. I've know tons of Muslim and brown people (American born citizens) who were detained for hours or overnight, and questioned, when they came back from something like a bachelor weekend in Aruba.

But how fortunate for you!!

Thank you for making this point. People are detained sometimes as a routine precaution. This has happened under *gasp* Obama and other former presidents no differently than it is happening now. Stay informed because context goes a long way in mitigating hysteria.

Nooooooooooo that neveeeeeer happened under Obamaaaa Our Goooood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are a US citizen and not born in one of the seven countries on the banned list you will have no issues travelling through US immigration and customs whatsoever.

Panic and run around like a chicken with its head cut off if you want to make yourself feel better, but that is simply the reality. Trump's EO is a terrible one and misplaced but it will not affect you unless you are, as mentioned, from one of the seven countries.

You must be white and have an Anglo name. I've know tons of Muslim and brown people (American born citizens) who were detained for hours or overnight, and questioned, when they came back from something like a bachelor weekend in Aruba.

But how fortunate for you!!

Do you have evidence of this? If "tons of Muslim and brown people" who are American born citizens are being detailed for hours or overnight in the last few days it would be all over the papers.

Very (not) funny.

You mean, essentially those same papers that got Obama elected in the first place?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes CBP can ask you to hand over your phone and look through it to look through your social media apps. I haven't flown internationally recently, but friends have told me this.

For those asserting that CBP can't/won't hold citizens. Sure maybe for now they are being let through after a lot of questioning. But this EO was implemented without prior notice, so no one saw it coming. I am American-born, but also Muslim whose parents were born in a Muslim country that isn't on the list yet. I would not take the chance of going overseas because I can't guarantee that my own government won't put out a stricter EO. Nothing is guaranteed in these uncertain times. You may think I'm being dramatic, and I'm happy that you have had the fortune of never being in this position.

I agree with you. I'm not muslim, but a lot of people from my parents' country of origin are. I'm supposed to travel to Mexico this weekend. Presumably because of my skin color, it's not unusual for me to get extra scrutiny when returning from Mexico (though I'm not latina). It's a short trip that is not a necessity in my life.

I'm still planning to go, but I'm also monitoring events closely and may change my mind. I'm not so worried about not being let back in as I am about being questioned for a long time. It's a short trip without my kids, and it's not worth that kind of extra hassle to me. I've also heard from people that follow Mexican news that people are talking about making it more difficult for Americans to travel there. I didn't get a good read from her as to whether this is just public sentiment or coming from the government, but it wouldn't surprise me. I know this EO is about muslims, but it seems obvious that Mexico is going to be targeted sooner or later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why a birth certificate? Mine shows I was born outside the US (because my American parents were living overseas at the time). So not sure how a birth certificate will be better than my US passport but maybe I am missing something (leaving today so just want to be prepared).

Bring your CoC with you then as a backup. That's what we are doing.