Is Brown worth the premium over William & Mary in-state?

[Anonymous]

This isn't a question of whether Brown students are better than W&M students. In the aggregate, they are.

This is about student who is already academically talented enough to get into both schools. Starting with that baseline, is Brown worth the extra money?

IMO, yes, but only if there is no financial pain involved.

[Anonymous]

FYI Ivanka had to TRANSFER into Penn via Georgetown. Smart billionaire legacies don't get rejected from Penn out of high school. Ivanka was later caught LYING about the Penn honors she graduated with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FYI Ivanka had to TRANSFER into Penn via Georgetown. Smart billionaire legacies don't get rejected from Penn out of high school. Ivanka was later caught LYING about the Penn honors she graduated with.

Kid, grownups don't shout so leave off the caps, will you?

Who knows what the real story behind Ivanka Trump and Wharton is? There are many transfers at Ivy schools. I was one myself. Nonetheless, if what you are implying is true, then Penn is just as guilty as Brown and Harvard at accepting lower qualified but rich kids whose families promise to be generous donors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FYI Ivanka had to TRANSFER into Penn via Georgetown. Smart billionaire legacies don't get rejected from Penn out of high school. Ivanka was later caught LYING about the Penn honors she graduated with.

She is a Wharton graduate, smart, rich, and the daughter of the President Elect. What are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't a question of whether Brown students are better than W&M students. In the aggregate, they are.

This is about student who is already academically talented enough to get into both schools. Starting with that baseline, is Brown worth the extra money?

IMO, yes, but only if there is no financial pain involved.

Your use of the term "better" is weird.

[Anonymous]

The rich spawn like Kushners and Trumps and all the Wall Street, Hollywood and old money names you've never heard of will not associate with upper middle class kids. Ivies are so stratified. Put the $100,000 in a trust, make her stay in-state, buy her an apartment after college and grad school.

[Anonymous]

William and Mary as a Monroe Scholar would be a factor. If you can get into Brown, then you are probably getting Monroe. William and Mary is intense, and if you do well, its graduate school placements are superb. I could be biased: I went there undergrad and to an Ivy for law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rich spawn like Kushners and Trumps and all the Wall Street, Hollywood and old money names you've never heard of will not associate with upper middle class kids. Ivies are so stratified. Put the $100,000 in a trust, make her stay in-state, buy her an apartment after college and grad school.

Or go to Brown, marry a super rich kid and buy an apartment building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a "low ivy".

Yes there is and Brown is it. But I can't imagine not choosing it in this circmstance.

Brown is more selective than Penn, as well as Dartmouth and Cornell

Still the bottom feeder rep wise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I assume you evaluated whether you could afford Brown before she applied, so now ... her decision.

I disagree. Prior to getting in is just a bunch of what-if talk, now it's a real debate.

Although they are both ED schools so the OP couldn't have been accepted at both, and if accepted at one is already bound to attend that one.

Ha, like nobody breaks those "rules".

People with ethics don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FYI Ivanka had to TRANSFER into Penn via Georgetown. Smart billionaire legacies don't get rejected from Penn out of high school. Ivanka was later caught LYING about the Penn honors she graduated with.

She is a Wharton graduate, smart, rich, and the daughter of the President Elect. What are you?

NP here. Someone who's more impressed by actual accomplishments then rich people buying their way into places and then lying about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brown< W&M, but in state tuition makes this a closer call. How much will the difference in tuition set you back? If it means DD will need to take out lot more student loans to attend Brown I'd think twice. Otherwise I'd let her go with Brown if that what she wants. It will be a more diverse group of kids, I think. Also the Ivy status still carries a bit more weight with future employers.

You realize you wrote Brown is less than W&M, don't you? Clearly you didn't get into either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M is a suicide school.

Less so than Penn.

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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a "low ivy".

Yes there is and Brown is it. But I can't imagine not choosing it in this circmstance.

Brown is more selective than Penn, as well as Dartmouth and Cornell

Still the bottom feeder rep wise.

LOL

The Brown bashing on this board is funny. Maybe it stems from conservatives who hew to the outdated stereotype of Brown as a crazy liberal outlier? As the academy has gone farther and farther left, Brown is longer ideologically different from most other highly selective schools - 15 years ago it was radically progressive when Brown grappled with its history as a slave-owning institution, now Georgetown, Harvard, Yale and others are following suit. Brown retains its open curriculum and Pass/Fail option for every course. Once upon a time, maybe that fostered laziness, but today there are no lazy kids getting into Brown or any other highly selective school.

My sense of the original post is that it's a troll. But if it's not, then my advice is to have your daughter get into Brown first, and then worry about this "problem" - fewer than 8% of female applicants are accepted.

[Anonymous]

In re to Brown's endowment: Yes, it's the smallest in the Ivy League, but they don't have the business, law, and various grad programs the others fund. Brown seems most focused on offering a liberals arts undergrad experience.