Safety in Portable Classrooms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it is called school directories. You honestly believe that chump? His job is to skim numbers, place blame elsewhere, and promise chances that never happen. You confront the issue and he says it's not all the new developments and building but old homes? Give me an f'ing break. How gullible can you be.

And still waiting on those schools that are over capacity with no boundary changes or development over the last 10-15yrs.

I think that Bruce Crispell knows more about MCPS demographics than you do. Although if you went through all of the directories for the 212 schools in MCPS and entered the (incomplete) information into a database for analysis, I applaud your dedication.

Meanwhile, Pyle MS is over capacity. What significant development has been built in the Pyle MS boundary area?

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/PyleMS.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree and had the same fears, particularly on a day like today. Must be nice for the W schools that don't have portables. Damn you, Governor Hogan, for cutting school funding and making our kids stay in these damn portables.

Huh?? Both my children in a W feeder had years in portables.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No school in the Churchill or Whitman cluster has portables. The rest of the county is exposed while those clusters are protected in their gleaming new facilities.

This is an appallingly ignorant statement, and simply factually false.

[Anonymous]

Why the negative attitude, PP? From where I sit, the W school clusters have been refurbished much more quickly and at a faster rate than many other clusters that are severely overcrowded. Hoover and Cabin John MS are brand new campuses! Additionally, a number of schools that are under-capacity or even considerably under-capacity, like DuFief, Cold Spring, Seven Locks and Beverly Farms, are in those clusters. But you don't care about anyone else so long as you don't have to endure a portable. Disgusting!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the negative attitude, PP? From where I sit, the W school clusters have been refurbished much more quickly and at a faster rate than many other clusters that are severely overcrowded. Hoover and Cabin John MS are brand new campuses! Additionally, a number of schools that are under-capacity or even considerably under-capacity, like DuFief, Cold Spring, Seven Locks and Beverly Farms, are in those clusters. But you don't care about anyone else so long as you don't have to endure a portable. Disgusting!

May I respectfully ask what you are talking about? I have no idea about the Churchill cluster schools, but both the Whitman and BCC cluster are severely overcrowded and have had schools with portables for years. But it's clear that you're not interested in facts as long as you can name-call.

[Anonymous]

Name-calling? You are simply uninformed or prefer to stick to you own narrative on school over-crowding. Either way, you are quite difficult, aren't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No school in the Churchill or Whitman cluster has portables. The rest of the county is exposed while those clusters are protected in their gleaming new facilities.

Wrong. DD at Grosvenor Center has a farm of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Q: "But if there is no room in the schools then what options are there besides portables?"
A: stop spending capital dollars on stuff like artificial turf football fields and use the money to expand brick-and-mortar school buildings.
Stop giving away capital assets (like the Berman school building), make them pay market price for it or redistrict and make use of existing capacity.
Mark Twain School (now the Ewing center) could be used to take excess enrollment at nearby schools.
MCPS does very poor capital planning and enrollment projections. That's one reason we have portables.

Not to mention the unlimited illegal invasion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Q: "But if there is no room in the schools then what options are there besides portables?"
A: stop spending capital dollars on stuff like artificial turf football fields and use the money to expand brick-and-mortar school buildings.
Stop giving away capital assets (like the Berman school building), make them pay market price for it or redistrict and make use of existing capacity.
Mark Twain School (now the Ewing center) could be used to take excess enrollment at nearby schools.
MCPS does very poor capital planning and enrollment projections. That's one reason we have portables.

Not to mention the unlimited illegal invasion.

And what do you want mcps to do about that? They are a school district; they don't control immigration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree and had the same fears, particularly on a day like today. Must be nice for the W schools that don't have portables. Damn you, Governor Hogan, for cutting school funding and making our kids stay in these damn portables.

He didn't cut school funding. In fact, he increased it. He just didn't increase it enough for the county to continue to waste money fast enough. So instead of cutting the huge overhead, wasted free programs, and county administrative, the board decided to increase ratios last year and spend time and money telling all the clueless people how awful it is that we don't get the money we asked for. And people like you just believe it. They have been telling overcrowded schools/districts for YEARS (prior to Hogan) that they need more money to build more schools.

Instead of blindly blaming the governor, do your research. MCPS has more and more people in poverty. That equals to higher funding needs for the schools with less tax revenue from the people. They are also over building and there are no new schools for all the new housing. How is this the governor's fault? Time to start placing blame on the county government and the county board. Stomping your feet and demanding more money doesn't always get you want you want.

If MCPS has higher funding needs, wouldn't it have made sense for the governor to have provided the increased funding that everybody was basing their budget assumptions on?

I also don't quite understand the argument about capital funding. Hogan didn't provide the capital funding that MCPS expected, but this is ok (I guess?) because MCPS's capital needs have exceeded MCPS's capital funding for years?

So because the county had an astronomical number wanted this year and assumed they could get it, the governor should just give it to them? Are you the same people that thinks that we should always get a snow waiver each year from the state because it is assumed? Instead of fixing the problems (budget, sticking with contingency plan) you just assume someone above them should help them?

MoCo has had budget cuts every year for the past seven years. Oddly, when I walk the halls of my daughter's school, the children are not and have never been sitting on piles of money. Our old building is decrepit, our playgrounds are falling apart, our staff are underpaid. Our schools are vastly underfunded. Imagine a world where we valued teachers, made it harder to become a teacher and more lucrative to be a teacher, instead of paying them pennies. Imagine classrooms where there are lots of kids with challenges able to have extra help full time in the classroom. Imagine kids with more access to better resources, better food, better everything, and you see a better future for all of us and all of our kids.

Or, be a republican like Hogan and cut the crap out of the budget because kids, man, who cares.

[Anonymous]

I recently visited a school where the trailer was so small you cpuld have fit at least two of them in a regular sized classroom. It's sickening. I guess there's no minimum for square footage?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree and had the same fears, particularly on a day like today. Must be nice for the W schools that don't have portables. Damn you, Governor Hogan, for cutting school funding and making our kids stay in these damn portables.

He didn't cut school funding. In fact, he increased it. He just didn't increase it enough for the county to continue to waste money fast enough. So instead of cutting the huge overhead, wasted free programs, and county administrative, the board decided to increase ratios last year and spend time and money telling all the clueless people how awful it is that we don't get the money we asked for. And people like you just believe it. They have been telling overcrowded schools/districts for YEARS (prior to Hogan) that they need more money to build more schools.

Instead of blindly blaming the governor, do your research. MCPS has more and more people in poverty. That equals to higher funding needs for the schools with less tax revenue from the people. They are also over building and there are no new schools for all the new housing. How is this the governor's fault? Time to start placing blame on the county government and the county board. Stomping your feet and demanding more money doesn't always get you want you want.

If MCPS has higher funding needs, wouldn't it have made sense for the governor to have provided the increased funding that everybody was basing their budget assumptions on?

I also don't quite understand the argument about capital funding. Hogan didn't provide the capital funding that MCPS expected, but this is ok (I guess?) because MCPS's capital needs have exceeded MCPS's capital funding for years?

So because the county had an astronomical number wanted this year and assumed they could get it, the governor should just give it to them? Are you the same people that thinks that we should always get a snow waiver each year from the state because it is assumed? Instead of fixing the problems (budget, sticking with contingency plan) you just assume someone above them should help them?

MoCo has had budget cuts every year for the past seven years. Oddly, when I walk the halls of my daughter's school, the children are not and have never been sitting on piles of money. Our old building is decrepit, our playgrounds are falling apart, our staff are underpaid. Our schools are vastly underfunded. Imagine a world where we valued teachers, made it harder to become a teacher and more lucrative to be a teacher, instead of paying them pennies. Imagine classrooms where there are lots of kids with challenges able to have extra help full time in the classroom. Imagine kids with more access to better resources, better food, better everything, and you see a better future for all of us and all of our kids.

Or, be a republican like Hogan and cut the crap out of the budget because kids, man, who cares.

Which school are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who says W schools don't have portables? We are in a W feeder and DD has been in a portable for 3 of 6 years including this year.

+1. The more desirable the school, the more portables.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No school in the Churchill or Whitman cluster has portables. The rest of the county is exposed while those clusters are protected in their gleaming new facilities.

Wrong. DD at Grosvenor Center has a farm of them.

Wood Acres had eight of them last year, and will again soon.

[Anonymous]

So sick of hearing about Wood Acres - just stop.