Chances of getting into St. John's College High School

[Anonymous]

PP I said that they did well with athletic recruits. That list doesn't show which ones were recruits nor does it list year by year. It is of little value without that information

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP I said that they did well with athletic recruits. That list doesn't show which ones were recruits nor does it list year by year. It is of little value without that information

So you have information that is of little value to draw conclusions, and yet you have?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nice school for kids who don't get in elsewhere

I think this is a good thing and assume you did not intend to be negative. All the kids I know who went there got into good colleges and are doing well. There are many distinguished alums in our community who did fine coming out of SJC.

My thinking on people's reason for choosing SJC may be mainly the fact that it is coed. If you think about the alternatives in the DC metro area, they are mainly single sex institutions like Gonzaga, Georgetown Prep, Visitation, Holy Cross. I am talking closer in schools...not places like Good Counsel, etc., which are too far out and not worth the commute.

There are over 50 elementary schools feeding into ADW/Catholic high schools in the area. For many the commute to Gonzaga is much worse than to SJC or GC.

While some kids are okay sitting the bench on a nationally ranked team, others want to play. Also, many kids want to "get away from" some kids in their K-8th grade class and may simply choose to not go to the school the stronger personalities chose, some kids follow a few friends, some pick their parents school, or the one their cousins attend, or the one their cousins don't attend, some want to be with a sibling (who needs the Binilde program), some don't like city schools, some love the city, some like the diversity, some are scared by the diversity, some want an ipad and technology, some like books/lecture and memorization, often it comes down to which shadow day was better.... you really can't boil it down to one reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1100 x 0.75 x 0.4 = 330 (not too far off)

50% off?

1100 * .5 Offered * .4 accepted = 220

I'm trying to make sense of these threads and to compare. PPs, what does the .75 and .4 refer to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1100 x 0.75 x 0.4 = 330 (not too far off)

50% off?

1100 * .5 Offered * .4 accepted = 220

I'm trying to make sense of these threads and to compare. PPs, what does the .75 and .4 refer to?

1100 Applications * 50% Admissions Offered * 40% acceptance rate = 220 Students in Freshman Class

[Anonymous]

.75 or .5 are estimates of acceptance rate (I think these numbers are similar. Either way, not "everyone gets accepted" , nor is it "impossible to get in")
0.4 yield ( % of accepted kids that choose to attend.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nice school for kids who don't get in elsewhere

Just put our money down. My DS turned down GZ and Prep for SJC. In his ADW school he wasn't the only one who turned down what others perceive a "better" schools for SJC. They are doing something right over there.

Can you give reasons please? Co-ed?

I really thought Prep is where he would end up and frankly I liked it the best. After his shadow days in the fall he felt GZ was right for him but ended up doing a second shadow day at SJC "just to make sure." I didn't really push him about it since it really didn't matter to me and my choice was clearly not his. When the acceptances came in it was without hesitation that he said SJC. I was shocked but the more I talk to the other mothers I realize that his decision wasn't unique. Now when I ask him he said he just liked it better. It seemed more fun (he is 14 after all -- girls?), he liked the cafeteria (he is 14 after all) and liked the construction they have going on which they must have explained to the kids because I don't know what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice school for kids who don't get in elsewhere

Just put our money down. My DS turned down GZ and Prep for SJC. In his ADW school he wasn't the only one who turned down what others perceive a "better" schools for SJC. They are doing something right over there.

Can you give reasons please? Co-ed?

I really thought Prep is where he would end up and frankly I liked it the best. After his shadow days in the fall he felt GZ was right for him but ended up doing a second shadow day at SJC "just to make sure." I didn't really push him about it since it really didn't matter to me and my choice was clearly not his. When the acceptances came in it was without hesitation that he said SJC. I was shocked but the more I talk to the other mothers I realize that his decision wasn't unique. Now when I ask him he said he just liked it better. It seemed more fun (he is 14 after all -- girls?), he liked the cafeteria (he is 14 after all) and liked the construction they have going on which they must have explained to the kids because I don't know what it is.

Student Center and Performance Arts Center

http://www.stjohnschs.org/Page/Campus-Life/Campus-Expansion

more on the way too...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1100 x 0.75 x 0.4 = 330 (not too far off)

50% off?

1100 * .5 Offered * .4 accepted = 220

I'm trying to make sense of these threads and to compare. PPs, what does the .75 and .4 refer to?

1100 Applications * 50% Admissions Offered * 40% acceptance rate = 220 Students in Freshman Class

Thanks for explaining the formula. But the numbers used as a base and for number who accepted the offer of admission are too low.
The acceptance letter said more than 1100 applications were received. . I've seen both 1110 and 1150 on DCUM, who knows what's correct? Let's use 1110.

Last night at SJC meeting we were told there are 320 students committed to the class of 2020.
This represented a 7% increase in the number of students who accepted.

So....using your formula...
1110 * .50 Admissions Offered 555 accepted * .40 acceptance rate = 226 too low!
1110 * .75 offered admissions = 832 - seems way too high * .47 acceptance rate = 391 students, too high
1110 * .65 offer rate or 721 offers for target class of 300? * .47 acceptance rate 339 - close too high a number ...OR
1110 * .40 offer rate or 440 accepted * .75 acceptance = 333 - close still over 330 but number of applications may be higher too.

I give up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1100 x 0.75 x 0.4 = 330 (not too far off)

50% off?

1100 * .5 Offered * .4 accepted = 220

I'm trying to make sense of these threads and to compare. PPs, what does the .75 and .4 refer to?

1100 Applications * 50% Admissions Offered * 40% acceptance rate = 220 Students in Freshman Class

Thanks for explaining the formula. But the numbers used as a base and for number who accepted the offer of admission are too low.
The acceptance letter said more than 1100 applications were received. . I've seen both 1110 and 1150 on DCUM, who knows what's correct? Let's use 1110.

Last night at SJC meeting we were told there are 320 students committed to the class of 2020.
This represented a 7% increase in the number of students who accepted.

So....using your formula...
1110 * .50 Admissions Offered 555 accepted * .40 acceptance rate = 226 too low!
1110 * .75 offered admissions = 832 - seems way too high * .47 acceptance rate = 391 students, too high
1110 * .65 offer rate or 721 offers for target class of 300? * .47 acceptance rate 339 - close too high a number ...OR
1110 * .40 offer rate or 440 accepted * .75 acceptance = 333 - close still over 330 but number of applications may be higher too.

I give up!

Does this really matter? Seriously, who cares...and the only ones who know the true numbers are the admissions staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their college placements are poor other than for athletic recruits who do well

That's just false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1100 x 0.75 x 0.4 = 330 (not too far off)

50% off?

1100 * .5 Offered * .4 accepted = 220

I'm trying to make sense of these threads and to compare. PPs, what does the .75 and .4 refer to?

1100 Applications * 50% Admissions Offered * 40% acceptance rate = 220 Students in Freshman Class

Thanks for explaining the formula. But the numbers used as a base and for number who accepted the offer of admission are too low.
The acceptance letter said more than 1100 applications were received. . I've seen both 1110 and 1150 on DCUM, who knows what's correct? Let's use 1110.

Last night at SJC meeting we were told there are 320 students committed to the class of 2020.
This represented a 7% increase in the number of students who accepted.

So....using your formula...
1110 * .50 Admissions Offered 555 accepted * .40 acceptance rate = 226 too low!
1110 * .75 offered admissions = 832 - seems way too high * .47 acceptance rate = 391 students, too high
1110 * .65 offer rate or 721 offers for target class of 300? * .47 acceptance rate 339 - close too high a number ...OR
1110 * .40 offer rate or 440 accepted * .75 acceptance = 333 - close still over 330 but number of applications may be higher too.

I give up!

If 320 is correct, they just upped the class size by close to 50%. I have a hard time believing that, unless their yield was WAY over what they expected.

What was the meeting last night?

[Anonymous]

Kids are being told no transfers are being allowed for Sophomores due to class size. SJC seems to be struggling with understanding it's yield as both this years freshman and next years incoming freshman class are much larger than expected.

[Anonymous]

My DC was a transfer. Extremely hard to do. DC came from Big 5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DC was a transfer. Extremely hard to do. DC came from Big 5

How did you know it was hard to do? DC applied from Big 5 and got in. Why do you think it was hard to do?