Any update on the MV school discipline issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are kindergarteners! In school suspension is not going to help.

Why on earth would a charter not have children with behavioral challenges? If anything traditional public schools generally have larger staffs and more experience. And DCPS is a large LEA with many options. A charter LEA isn't going to have alternative classrooms available.

Because many of the clientele at charters are "self selecting" ie they come from families who care a great deal about education, research various options, visit multiple schools., review test scores, play the lotter--these are committed parents who are less likely to have kids with major behaviroal problems that are often evident in the lowest performing poorest schools in DC.

Yeah rich kids never do anything naughty. *eyeroll*

[Anonymous]

Coming from another city, and a school that was 48% farms, (and a lovely place) and reading classist bullshit like this makes my blood boil.

If kids are disruptive, you don't blame them. Nor do you blame their families. You get them help. And yes, as the other poster says, this us not only a problem for poor kids. Nor is it a problem that exists in a vacuum.

Either your school has resources and are dealing with this or they aren't . I've known a lot of "disruptive" kids and mostly they are pretty fantastic.

So much school discussion on these boards seems to involve intangible fears of poor people. And the sad thing is, most of you discussing it are probably not that rich yourselves--because if you're this scared of the poor unwashed masses you would totally do private or move to Bethesda had you the means. Indeed, one assumes it is only a matter if time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha I strongly feel that some of these posters expect us to care about their waitlists. You had no chance anyway.

Comments like this give you a bad rep (and person).

I get a bad person?

*and make you a bad person

Does that make you feel better? Can you sleep now. Pull the stick out of your ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha I strongly feel that some of these posters expect us to care about their waitlists. You had no chance anyway.

What a useless post. This kind of stuff makes me want to get off this listserv and not come back. How old are you?
I'm a MV parent and and I'm hoping this guy/gal's kid(s) don't go there.
Happy holidays y'all!

I guess I should have quoted the obnoxious statement about how this and many other reasons are why they are not putting MV on their list. Sorry but an obnoxious comment like that deserved by obnoxious response.

How is that an obnoxious statement? If 4 years of continuous concern of the school not addressing behavior, families leaving, teachers quitting, and expanding too quickly is not enough reason for a person to not use one of their 12 coveted spots on that school, why do you care? Why so defensive? Why can't people state their opinion? Them not having MV on their list is not a personal attack on you. What gives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha I strongly feel that some of these posters expect us to care about their waitlists. You had no chance anyway.

What a useless post. This kind of stuff makes me want to get off this listserv and not come back. How old are you?
I'm a MV parent and and I'm hoping this guy/gal's kid(s) don't go there.
Happy holidays y'all!

I guess I should have quoted the obnoxious statement about how this and many other reasons are why they are not putting MV on their list. Sorry but an obnoxious comment like that deserved by obnoxious response.

How is that an obnoxious statement? If 4 years of continuous concern of the school not addressing behavior, families leaving, teachers quitting, and expanding too quickly is not enough reason for a person to not use one of their 12 coveted spots on that school, why do you care? Why so defensive? Why can't people state their opinion? Them not having MV on their list is not a personal attack on you. What gives?

You know what, I guess I did not realize how "coveted" your 12 spots were. My apologies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are kindergarteners! In school suspension is not going to help.

Why on earth would a charter not have children with behavioral challenges? If anything traditional public schools generally have larger staffs and more experience. And DCPS is a large LEA with many options. A charter LEA isn't going to have alternative classrooms available.

Because many of the clientele at charters are "self selecting" ie they come from families who care a great deal about education, research various options, visit multiple schools., review test scores, play the lotter--these are committed parents who are less likely to have kids with major behaviroal problems that are often evident in the lowest performing poorest schools in DC.

Yeah rich kids never do anything naughty. *eyeroll*

good grief. Of course high SES kids act out. But the parents are often very engaged and working with the school to deal with this. Its just a fact that schools with the highest FARMS rates have the the most behavioral issues. Just a fact. No eye rolling needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are kindergarteners! In school suspension is not going to help.

Why on earth would a charter not have children with behavioral challenges? If anything traditional public schools generally have larger staffs and more experience. And DCPS is a large LEA with many options. A charter LEA isn't going to have alternative classrooms available.

Because many of the clientele at charters are "self selecting" ie they come from families who care a great deal about education, research various options, visit multiple schools., review test scores, play the lotter--these are committed parents who are less likely to have kids with major behaviroal problems that are often evident in the lowest performing poorest schools in DC.

Yeah rich kids never do anything naughty. *eyeroll*

good grief. Of course high SES kids act out. But the parents are often very engaged and working with the school to deal with this. Its just a fact that schools with the highest FARMS rates have the the most behavioral issues. Just a fact. No eye rolling needed.

Well that means MV is quite exceptional then doesn't it? MV has a pretty low FARM rate, yet the things that are happening are downright scary. Kids going to hospital, breaking bones, getting teeth knocked out and not being reported to parents. Let's stop quoting stats and deal with the matter at hand.

[Anonymous]

Fights happen. Not saying it's okay, but You're painting a picture of a war zone. Please elaborate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are kindergarteners! In school suspension is not going to help.

Why on earth would a charter not have children with behavioral challenges? If anything traditional public schools generally have larger staffs and more experience. And DCPS is a large LEA with many options. A charter LEA isn't going to have alternative classrooms available.

Because many of the clientele at charters are "self selecting" ie they come from families who care a great deal about education, research various options, visit multiple schools., review test scores, play the lotter--these are committed parents who are less likely to have kids with major behaviroal problems that are often evident in the lowest performing poorest schools in DC.

Yeah rich kids never do anything naughty. *eyeroll*

good grief. Of course high SES kids act out. But the parents are often very engaged and working with the school to deal with this. Its just a fact that schools with the highest FARMS rates have the the most behavioral issues. Just a fact. No eye rolling needed.

You are so clueless

[Anonymous]

Yes that poster is. It's not just the FARM kids it's the bratty, rambunctious snowflakes who've never been told NO.

[Anonymous]

I don't think anyone ever said which children are disruptive- it happens to be all races, boys and girls. (More boys though)

My child is at MV as well- doing ok with some things- not with others. In DC class it's difficult to pay attention, sustain focus due to the ongoing issues. Unfortunately despite kind teachers- it's hard to see how it will improve if after this long kids have yet to internalize the class norms, basics. Instead, one misbehaving student inspires another, then another and so it dissolves...

So happy to have a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coming from another city, and a school that was 48% farms, (and a lovely place) and reading classist bullshit like this makes my blood boil.

If kids are disruptive, you don't blame them. Nor do you blame their families. You get them help. And yes, as the other poster says, this us not only a problem for poor kids. Nor is it a problem that exists in a vacuum.

Either your school has resources and are dealing with this or they aren't . I've known a lot of "disruptive" kids and mostly they are pretty fantastic.

So much school discussion on these boards seems to involve intangible fears of poor people. And the sad thing is, most of you discussing it are probably not that rich yourselves--because if you're this scared of the poor unwashed masses you would totally do private or move to Bethesda had you the means. Indeed, one assumes it is only a matter if time.

Hit the nail on the head with that one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone ever said which children are disruptive- it happens to be all races, boys and girls. (More boys though)

My child is at MV as well- doing ok with some things- not with others. In DC class it's difficult to pay attention, sustain focus due to the ongoing issues. Unfortunately despite kind teachers- it's hard to see how it will improve if after this long kids have yet to internalize the class norms, basics. Instead, one misbehaving student inspires another, then another and so it dissolves...

So happy to have a break.

Are you applying elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there that many problem kids? Why aren't they removed from the classroom. I would be troubled if kids were throwing chairs and jumping on tables. I expect that at my IB DCPS but was hoping to avoid some of that drama
At a charter. These kids need in school suspension. Totally unacceptable.

Sounds more like ADHD or ASD. It's sad when people just assume this kind of behavior is a kid being bad by choice. There is support the school can provide for kids behaving this way, & support can be put in place in the classroom, but an in school suspension for kids this young is not going to help the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there that many problem kids? Why aren't they removed from the classroom. I would be troubled if kids were throwing chairs and jumping on tables. I expect that at my IB DCPS but was hoping to avoid some of that drama
At a charter. These kids need in school suspension. Totally unacceptable.

Sounds more like ADHD or ASD. It's sad when people just assume this kind of behavior is a kid being bad by choice. There is support the school can provide for kids behaving this way, & support can be put in place in the classroom, but an in school suspension for kids this young is not going to help the problem.

It also seems like the school is really struggling to figure out how to handle these situations in multiple classes.