What happens when you don't like any of the candidates? Anyone feel that way?

[Anonymous]

more than that, the world cannot afford another bad US President

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Anonymous wrote:Me too. I think Hillary is actually quite qualified, but she's got so much baggage and I'm not fond of her on a personal level so I'm not sure I'd feel great about voting for her. I love Bernie's message but I simply don't think they are realistic for the US.

I will not vote for a Republican.

I'm a moderate who thinks differently. Clinton has the skills, but she also has an incredible lack of integrity. She has proven for 30 years that she will do whatever she wants, whenever she wants, will ignore laws, will ignore ethics standards and will lie to cover up what she has done. Expediency and personal gain (usually political) are her only guidelines. While a person like this can operate as a senator or cabinet member like Secretary of State, such a person should not serve as the President.

I have not voted for a Republican since George HW Bush, but I will not vote for Hillary Clinton.

Regarding OP's question about Biden, he too was my candidate of choice, but he has a very good reason for declining to run. His adult son just died in May and his family is still grieving. He is not ready for a hard presidential campaign and his family is not ready to be pushed back into the forefront of the media circus. Right now, they are the media equivalent of B-listers and they do not want to be pushed back to the A-list. They also need more time to mourn which they won't have if he was making a presidential run. I have never lost a child, but I have known friends who have. And every family is different with how long it takes them to grieve. But I have never seen a family lose an adult child, especially one that they were close with, who have been able to move past the grief in less than a year. I know some that 2-3 years later are still having problems coming to grips with the loss of their child. Six months? He's not even close to being able to put that behind him. I'm not even sure that come election day next year that he'd be ready to run for President, let alone actually hold that office.

Moderate here too, and I disagree. Hillary has pretty average lack of integrity, nothing "incredible" in my mind for a professional politician.

Now, my problem with her is this. She's 68. Other than aggrandizing her own career, what was she accomplished in all that time? How is the world a better place because of her work in the White House, in the Senate, in State?

Marco Rubio is equally unaccomplished, but at least he's only 44.

You need to check out HRC's record. It's pretty impressive and readily available by Googling Hillary Clinton Accomplishments. Lots of positive accomplishments for the poor, women, children and veterans over the years. She sponsored/drafted a raft of legislation.

When the answer to a question is, "you need to Google that"...you know you are in trouble.

What does this moderate/ independent know about Hillary's leadership abilities:
- She destroyed the prospects for meaningful health reform for at least a generation
- She somehow managed to lose the previous national campaign, when everything was in her favor
- As a result of her time in State, we now have ISIS and Syria. Her only accomplishment there seems to be the Trans-Pacific trade deal...except that now she reneges on it

If I were Putin, I'd vote for her.

Seriously, you are blaming her for not succeeding in healthcare reform? Come on! Republicans destroyed prospects for meaningful health reform.

[Anonymous]

You end up voting for what you consider the lesser of two evils. Precisely whatvmany of us did voting for Obama's 2nd term.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but anyone who thinks anyone in this race other than Hillary is remotely qualified to lead this country is deluded.

Bernie fans - Bernie supports gun rights ONLY because he could never be elected in a hunting state if he didn't. He is just as crass and self-serving a politician as any of them.

[Anonymous]

Carson is the only one with an ounce of morals and integrity-that is half the battle. He has my vote! The rest are scum-on both sides....

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Sadly, any of them would be better than what we have....and that's not saying much. I had such high hopes when Barry Hussein O was elected-those hopes turned to crap pretty quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but anyone who thinks anyone in this race other than Hillary is remotely qualified to lead this country is deluded.

Bernie fans - Bernie supports gun rights ONLY because he could never be elected in a hunting state if he didn't. He is just as crass and self-serving a politician as any of them.

Bernie supports hunters "rights", mostly. Not that any yahoo can get a gun, pack a semi automatic, bla bla bla. You kn ow: Reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Carson is the only one with an ounce of morals and integrity-that is half the battle. He has my vote! The rest are scum-on both sides....

I believe he may have something on values and morals, if you like what he has to say about women, Muslims, Mexicans, poor people, guns... So that's a matter of opinion. One thing I unambiguously certain: The man doesn't know his ass from his elbow from his Deb ceiling from his foreign policy. He's an ill informed nightmare. He's apparently a brilliant pediatric surgeon. But I would never want him to be president.

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Anonymous wrote:Carson is the only one with an ounce of morals and integrity-that is half the battle. He has my vote! The rest are scum-on both sides....

I believe he may have something on values and morals, if you like what he has to say about women, Muslims, Mexicans, poor people, guns... So that's a matter of opinion. One thing I unambiguously certain: The man doesn't know his ass from his elbow from his Deb ceiling from his foreign policy. He's an ill informed nightmare. He's apparently a brilliant pediatric surgeon. But I would never want him to be president.

Don't forget his attitude about gay people. Positively 20 years ago. The United States has moved on, and we're never going back, Carson...

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, any of them would be better than what we have....and that's not saying much. I had such high hopes when Barry Hussein O was elected-those hopes turned to crap pretty quickly.

Weak attempt.

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Bernie has served in Congress since 1990. What are his major accomplishments in that time? If he is such a visionary leader, why will none of his congressional colleagues endorse him except for the two who co-chair the Progressive Caucus? Why will the governor of Vermont and the mayor of Burlington not endorse him? Seriously, it says something about him that his colleagues, who know him well, don't endorse him.

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Anonymous wrote:Bernie has served in Congress since 1990. What are his major accomplishments in that time? If he is such a visionary leader, why will none of his congressional colleagues endorse him except for the two who co-chair the Progressive Caucus? Why will the governor of Vermont and the mayor of Burlington not endorse him? Seriously, it says something about him that his colleagues, who know him well, don't endorse him.

Excellent point. We should ask the same about Hillary -- What are her major accomplishments?

I truly can't think of any, other than being a survivor. Which is great for a TV show, but not for the White House.

[Anonymous]

I feel the EXACT same way. I guess I can get behind Sanders, except he is just way too socialist for me. Where is my fiscally conservative, moral left guy/girl????

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Anonymous wrote:Bernie has served in Congress since 1990. What are his major accomplishments in that time? If he is such a visionary leader, why will none of his congressional colleagues endorse him except for the two who co-chair the Progressive Caucus? Why will the governor of Vermont and the mayor of Burlington not endorse him? Seriously, it says something about him that his colleagues, who know him well, don't endorse him.

Excellent point. We should ask the same about Hillary -- What are her major accomplishments?

I truly can't think of any, other than being a survivor. Which is great for a TV show, but not for the White House.

I'm pretty comfortable with Hillary's accomplishments. There is been many threads about this on this forum, and there are many lists of her accomplishments available.

I was asking you about Bernie's accomplishments and I was asking what it says about him that none of his colleagues will endorse him except for two. They know him pretty well, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel the EXACT same way. I guess I can get behind Sanders, except he is just way too socialist for me. Where is my fiscally conservative, moral left guy/girl????

You could get behind Sanders but you want someone fiscally conservative? You will vote for whoever is "moral"? That is so weird to me. How on earth could you ever determine who is "moral"?