Horrible kindergarten teacher

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Anonymous wrote:DOp here I volunteer in the classroom so I saw her lose her shit and have a tantrum over silly little things like talking during a fire drill or getting out of line walking from recess. And I am not talking About raising her voice I am talking a full melt down. The parents who gasp all had boys in her class years prior and their experience has been that admin believes she is great and loves kids tremendously. There are rumors that she will single out a "victim" once a year and try to make that child's life difficult. [b]The reason I am concerned is that she sent me an email that my son did xyz at a pajamas day party. But my son was not in school that day. So she then said that he did it another day. Just makes no sense.[/b]

Why aren't we talking about this part? This is very odd to me.

That said my DS has gotten in trouble for things he hasn't done before. What I tell him is that if he weren't often talking when he wasn't supposed to be the teacher wouldn't assume every out of turn whisper was him.
So while it is unfair, he needed to work on being quite and it has helped. Now the teacher has never said anything to me about it so I guess it is not that bad but the DS is his own worst enemy and rats himself out

Just tell the teacher that if the behavior is so bad that she needs to email about it she needs to email you the day it happens. Kids have short memories so if he really is misbehaving it needs to be addressed immediately.
Now if she emails you on a day when your DS is out you will know if she is really just nuts or if she made a mistake.

OK, I"ll talk about that part. It sounds as if the teacher, like most teachers, has a huge amount of work to do and honestly confused the day when she wrote the email to the mother. She probably had many other emails to do in a short amount of time. It happens. Last month I sent in email in which I accidentally referred to the student by the wrong NAME. This doesn't make me crazy or a horrible teacher: it just means that I had to write about 20 emails to 20 different people, and had a very short break period in which to do so.

I think you need to be very careful about the "rumors", etc. in cases like this. Your child will pick up on your attitude, and it will make it more difficult to respect his teacher at school, thus limiting his learning and causing him to feel that it is OK to misbehave because Mom will take his side and blame the teacher no matter what.

So PP, you are a teacher and you are on DCUM reading and responding to posts at 3 pm. I am glad you are not my kids' teacher, and by the way, if you are so busy that you don't have time for emails, why are you posting on DCUM while you are at school?

I'm not that PP, but wow! My school dismisses at 3 and my planning period is at the end of the day (7th period). I get up at 4 am to grade and plan for the next day. I'm at my desk by 6 am. So sometimes I take a break between 3 and 3:15 to fool around on the internet and relieve some work related stress. Maybe PP is the same way.

Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

[Anonymous]

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Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

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Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

Yes I admit I used the wrong terminology. Regardless, a teacher who is admittedly overworked should not be wasting time on a website like this.

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Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

Yes I admit I used the wrong terminology. Regardless, a teacher who is admittedly overworked should not be wasting time on a website like this.

Why? Everybody needs some brain relaxation. And sometimes one learns stuff on DCUM. Not often, but sometimes.

[Anonymous]

The replies to this are baffling. She witnessed a meltdown and so many replies just take her words and claim that it could be the exact opposite of what she said. Truly bizarre.

i wish I knew what options are available to you after talking to the principal, if that does not prove successful. I think you should keep a very close eye on this and document your concerns (and find a more supportive forum for advice).

For all the excuses of busy teachers it seems more likely to excuse it away as a different child at the pajama day party rather than something that occurred a different day when your child was not at the pajama day party.

good luck finding a better place for advice and keep paying attention to this issue. maybe talk to some other parents and see if you can get the administration to pay closer attention to what is going on in the classroom?

[Anonymous]

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Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

Yes I admit I used the wrong terminology. Regardless, a teacher who is admittedly overworked should not be wasting time on a website like this.

So someone who works - who NEEDS a break badly - CAN'T surf the internet for a few . But you - someone who's lazy and entitled with "too much time" on your hands - can.

SAHM brain atrophy syndrome

Or . . . maybe you were never very smart from the start

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

Yes I admit I used the wrong terminology. Regardless, a teacher who is admittedly overworked should not be wasting time on a website like this.

So someone who works - who NEEDS a break badly - CAN'T surf the internet for a few . But you - someone who's lazy and entitled with "too much time" on your hands - can.

SAHM brain atrophy syndrome

Or . . . maybe you were never very smart from the start

That last but is what I suspect. Some poster has been flinging the term mediocre at teachers all over DCUM the last few days. I suspect he or she just learned a new vocabulary term from DC and feels oh so clever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

I don't think that "trolling" means that you think it means.

Yes I admit I used the wrong terminology. Regardless, a teacher who is admittedly overworked should not be wasting time on a website like this.

So someone who works - who NEEDS a break badly - CAN'T surf the internet for a few . But you - someone who's lazy and entitled with "too much time" on your hands - can.

SAHM brain atrophy syndrome

Or . . . maybe you were never very smart from the start

NP. Who says "surf the internet" anymore? Is your dial up working ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DOp here I volunteer in the classroom so I saw her lose her shit and have a tantrum over silly little things like talking during a fire drill or getting out of line walking from recess. And I am not talking About raising her voice I am talking a full melt down. The parents who gasp all had boys in her class years prior and their experience has been that admin believes she is great and loves kids tremendously. There are rumors that she will single out a "victim" once a year and try to make that child's life difficult. [b]The reason I am concerned is that she sent me an email that my son did xyz at a pajamas day party. But my son was not in school that day. So she then said that he did it another day. Just makes no sense.[/b]

Why aren't we talking about this part? This is very odd to me.

That said my DS has gotten in trouble for things he hasn't done before. What I tell him is that if he weren't often talking when he wasn't supposed to be the teacher wouldn't assume every out of turn whisper was him.
So while it is unfair, he needed to work on being quite and it has helped. Now the teacher has never said anything to me about it so I guess it is not that bad but the DS is his own worst enemy and rats himself out

Just tell the teacher that if the behavior is so bad that she needs to email about it she needs to email you the day it happens. Kids have short memories so if he really is misbehaving it needs to be addressed immediately.
Now if she emails you on a day when your DS is out you will know if she is really just nuts or if she made a mistake.

OK, I"ll talk about that part. It sounds as if the teacher, like most teachers, has a huge amount of work to do and honestly confused the day when she wrote the email to the mother. She probably had many other emails to do in a short amount of time. It happens. Last month I sent in email in which I accidentally referred to the student by the wrong NAME. This doesn't make me crazy or a horrible teacher: it just means that I had to write about 20 emails to 20 different people, and had a very short break period in which to do so.

I think you need to be very careful about the "rumors", etc. in cases like this. Your child will pick up on your attitude, and it will make it more difficult to respect his teacher at school, thus limiting his learning and causing him to feel that it is OK to misbehave because Mom will take his side and blame the teacher no matter what.

So PP, you are a teacher and you are on DCUM reading and responding to posts at 3 pm. I am glad you are not my kids' teacher, and by the way, if you are so busy that you don't have time for emails, why are you posting on DCUM while you are at school?

I'm not that PP, but wow! My school dismisses at 3 and my planning period is at the end of the day (7th period). I get up at 4 am to grade and plan for the next day. I'm at my desk by 6 am. So sometimes I take a break between 3 and 3:15 to fool around on the internet and relieve some work related stress. Maybe PP is the same way.

Like I said about PP, I wouldn't want you for a teacher. I find that any teacher that is trolling DCUM is probably mediocre at best.

Signed, SAHM with a lot of time on her hands.

Hmm, I work in a school. I probably work double the hours I am paid for, but I periodically chime in on DCUM to offer support and advice to parents when my expertise might be helpful. I would be careful about flinging accusations, PP.

[Anonymous]

Teachers want to be viewed as professionals/as part of a profession. Professionals are not paid by the hour. They are hired to accomplish the goals of the organization and work the hours necessary to accomplish those goals. Please don't complain about the hours you work versus the hours you are paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers want to be viewed as professionals/as part of a profession. Professionals are not paid by the hour. They are hired to accomplish the goals of the organization and work the hours necessary to accomplish those goals. Please don't complain about the hours you work versus the hours you are paid.

That will come as news to lawyers.

[Anonymous]

So now a "good teacher" can't be on DCUM? Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I was not clear. Concerns have been brought up to the admin in the past. If the teacher yells in front of me, it means that she knows that this behavior is tolerated by the principal and she can continue with impunity. I want to know what can parents do if the outcome of speaking with the principal is not satisfactory. What is the next step? From reading some of the posts it seems that the principal's power is absolute?

1. Go to the principal and tell him/her what you yourself have witnessed. It does not matter if your child was involved or not. You are an adult with first hand knowledge of what is happening. (If another parent was in there, saw this and did nothing because it wasn't their child, would you be content with that?)

2. If the principal's response doesn't resolve anything, then you go to the principal's superior. The name of that person shouldn't be too difficult to find online. Look at the school division's website.

Keep notes of dates and times, as well as details of what you witness. Who was involved, what was happening etc.

Never mind the gossip of other parents, if you haven't witnessed it yourself leave it out.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a child deserves to be yelled at for talking during a fire drill? These are not 10 year old, these are kindergartners. No one deserves an adult in position of authority scream in their faces. Especially vulnerable 5 year olds. My son is really hard to get something Out of so I don't know if she is yelling at him I am monitoring it. However my concern is that I am getting these strange emails from her

+1 totally unacceptable. A teacher who has good classroom management never needs to raise her voice. When a teacher yells, there is no classroom management.

[Anonymous]

OP speak to the principal. Chances are they don't know this teacher is shouting and they won't like it. It doesn't have to be a big hullabaloo, but the teacher and principal can have a private conversation where the principal says something along the lines of "hey lighten up a bit, less shouting is required"