How many kids are in your child's pre-k3 class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

pretty amazing the charters are allowed to have bigger class sizes and higher ratios than day care facilities: http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/os...sing_Regulations_29_DCMR_3.pdf p.43 shows that for 3 year olds, the maximum group size is 16 and it must be a 1:8 ratio.

That chart shows the maximum group size for 30 months through 3 years old. You won't have 2.5 year olds in PK3 at school.

True, but when they say 3 they are talking about until they turn 4. So 30 months until 48 months. So in a child care center, you are not allowed to have a group size larger than 16 until all children in the group are 4.

NP.

Well, at the daycare we went to, they did a 3-5 year old room with 24 kids and 3 caregivers, and they were very concerned about ratios, so I'd be surprised if they were out of ratio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

pretty amazing the charters are allowed to have bigger class sizes and higher ratios than day care facilities: http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/os...sing_Regulations_29_DCMR_3.pdf p.43 shows that for 3 year olds, the maximum group size is 16 and it must be a 1:8 ratio.

That chart shows the maximum group size for 30 months through 3 years old. You won't have 2.5 year olds in PK3 at school.

True, but when they say 3 they are talking about until they turn 4. So 30 months until 48 months. So in a child care center, you are not allowed to have a group size larger than 16 until all children in the group are 4.

NP.

Well, at the daycare we went to, they did a 3-5 year old room with 24 kids and 3 caregivers, and they were very concerned about ratios, so I'd be surprised if they were out of ratio.

They weren't out of ratio (1:8), but their group size was too large. Montessoris are allowed to have much higher class limits/ratios--maybe that was the case at your center?
From DCMR:

The child care center shall maintain the adult/child ratios and group sizes as specified herein:

(a) For centers serving infants, toddlers, and preschoolers:


AGE OF CHILDREN ADULT/CHILD RATIO MAXIMUM SIZE OF GROUP
0 – 12 months 1:4 8
12 – 24 months 1:4 8
24 – 30 months 1:4 12
30 months through 3 years 1:8 16
4 – 5 years 1:10 20

(b) For centers providing out-of-school-time care to children of legal school age:
AGE OF CHILDREN ADULT/CHILD RATIO MAXIMUM SIZE OF GROUP
Under 6 years 1:12 24
6 years and older 1:15 30


344.6 In determining adult/child ratios and maximum group sizes for children up to twenty-four (24) months old, the maximum group size may increase by one child when the adult/child ratio decreases by one child per adult.

344.7 When children of different ages are combined in one group, the adult/child ratio for the youngest child shall apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

pretty amazing the charters are allowed to have bigger class sizes and higher ratios than day care facilities: http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/os...sing_Regulations_29_DCMR_3.pdf p.43 shows that for 3 year olds, the maximum group size is 16 and it must be a 1:8 ratio.

That chart shows the maximum group size for 30 months through 3 years old. You won't have 2.5 year olds in PK3 at school.

True, but when they say 3 they are talking about until they turn 4. So 30 months until 48 months. So in a child care center, you are not allowed to have a group size larger than 16 until all children in the group are 4.

NP.

Well, at the daycare we went to, they did a 3-5 year old room with 24 kids and 3 caregivers, and they were very concerned about ratios, so I'd be surprised if they were out of ratio.

They weren't out of ratio (1:8), but their group size was too large. Montessoris are allowed to have much higher class limits/ratios--maybe that was the case at your center?
From DCMR:

The child care center shall maintain the adult/child ratios and group sizes as specified herein:

(a) For centers serving infants, toddlers, and preschoolers:


AGE OF CHILDREN ADULT/CHILD RATIO MAXIMUM SIZE OF GROUP
0 – 12 months 1:4 8
12 – 24 months 1:4 8
24 – 30 months 1:4 12
30 months through 3 years 1:8 16
4 – 5 years 1:10 20

(b) For centers providing out-of-school-time care to children of legal school age:
AGE OF CHILDREN ADULT/CHILD RATIO MAXIMUM SIZE OF GROUP
Under 6 years 1:12 24
6 years and older 1:15 30


344.6 In determining adult/child ratios and maximum group sizes for children up to twenty-four (24) months old, the maximum group size may increase by one child when the adult/child ratio decreases by one child per adult.

344.7 When children of different ages are combined in one group, the adult/child ratio for the youngest child shall apply.

No, it was a traditional preschool type school, not Montessori, and they definitely had and have 24 kids for the 3-5 year old class. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:21 3 year olds in one classroom is A LOT of 3 year olds. Especially since some are going to be really young 3s who might still need a lot of help in the bathroom etc.

Most private preschools will have classes of 8-10 3 year olds with several adults in the room. 15 seems more reasonable for public preschool. 21 is just nuts.

Really? Which private schools? Ours has 16 3 year olds, one teacher and one aide.

[Anonymous]

not the PP, but my son's 3-4 year old class has a teacher and an aide for 11 kids (Gan Adas Israel).

[Anonymous]

15 with one teacher & one aide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At ITS we had 22 student with 2 Teachers and an aide.

Wow, that's really big for non Montessori.

[Anonymous]

17. Mixed aged DCPS Title 1 school.