Caitlyn Jenner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many of you who are applauding Bruce Jenner would say to an anorexic "Hey, you really ARE fat! Go on and starve to death, you go girl!"

No, you would get them treatment, not celebrate their body dysmorphic disorder.

We'll see how many people here can intelligently approach this, and not just say "bigot," "shut up", or similar things.

Maybe it is too simple, but one won't kill you. Strictly speaking yes both are forms of BDD. But gender constructs DO go much past the physical body so I can't say that its ONLY BDD in this case, its just a single part of that puzzle. Much like anorexia isn't solely about BDD but often about control and other links to OCD type disorders.

If someone has BDD and deems themselves to be the most amazing looking man on the planet despite being plain or even ugly it might make for an annoying personality but it won't kill the person. If someone feels gender dysmorphic and changes it similarly won't kill the person. If someone has BDD and intends to refuse food of any kind indefinitely it will indeed kill that person.

Treat what needs to be treated. Not what doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be embarrassed if I had sex with him or he was my dad, what a joke.

Yes, you mentioned that exact sentiment upthread. Still figuring out how this whole internet thing works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm at a loss how some people can be so hateful about someone's life choices, that has no effect on them. Why on earth does someone's personal decision affect you so deeply, to have such strong opinions?

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm at a loss how some people can be so hateful about someone's life choices, that has no effect on them. Why on earth does someone's personal decision affect you so deeply, to have such strong opinions?

+100

All of this! Its not my business and def no cause to be hateful. She's a person. Everyone cannot be who/how you want them to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She has a Jessica Lange look going on.

LOL my DH said Renee Russo.

I was thinking Jake Gyllenhaal...

[Anonymous]

Here are a few resources for people who genuinely might not understand the difference between sex and gender or the transgender issue.

http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf

http://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-transgender-people-faq

The FAQ, in particular, is very informative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the Wheaties box to the Fruitloop box.

DNA don't lie and no amount of tucking your junk makes you a female. Some sick shit right there.

Hmm, that's an interesting question. You know in crime scenes (maybe too much CSI for me) the technicians find DNA evidence at the scene and back at the lab they determine it belongs to a male, along with other identifiers. I wonder after the full transformation what would his reveal. Okay, I know before I get the snarly replies, too much damn television.

[Anonymous]

I love everything about that VF cover! I'm happy she's being so open with her transition. Honestly, watching her interviews have been so incredibly informative. I had no idea how this worked...

Can't wait for more.

[Anonymous]

Love it. She looks great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the responses on this thread just show how far we have to go on this issue. People openly spewed the same hateful and ignorant garbage about interracial marriage and gay people just a generation or two ago. You all are on the wrong side of history and really need to educate yourselves.

Leaving that aside, don't love the name Caitlyn but she looks great on the cover.

Oh please.

I am supposed to think this is normal because it is on the cover of vanity fair???

It isn't. it is weird and slightly gross.

Do what you want to do - get a sex change, wear dresses, have sex with animals for all I care, but I don't have to consider your behaviors a normal part of society because pop culture says so.

I won't persecute you for it but I will certainly judge you and think you have mental problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of you who are applauding Bruce Jenner would say to an anorexic "Hey, you really ARE fat! Go on and starve to death, you go girl!"

No, you would get them treatment, not celebrate their body dysmorphic disorder.

We'll see how many people here can intelligently approach this, and not just say "bigot," "shut up", or similar things.

Maybe it is too simple, but one won't kill you. Strictly speaking yes both are forms of BDD. But gender constructs DO go much past the physical body so I can't say that its ONLY BDD in this case, its just a single part of that puzzle. Much like anorexia isn't solely about BDD but often about control and other links to OCD type disorders.

If someone has BDD and deems themselves to be the most amazing looking man on the planet despite being plain or even ugly it might make for an annoying personality but it won't kill the person. If someone feels gender dysmorphic and changes it similarly won't kill the person. If someone has BDD and intends to refuse food of any kind indefinitely it will indeed kill that person.

Treat what needs to be treated. Not what doesn't.

He did get treatment, by the way. It's called transitioning. She's now no longer in need of treatment because she's living the way she always needed to live. And like PP said, one is going to kill you because you are literally killing yourself. The other isn't. That's about as simplistic an explanation as your question was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the responses on this thread just show how far we have to go on this issue. People openly spewed the same hateful and ignorant garbage about interracial marriage and gay people just a generation or two ago. You all are on the wrong side of history and really need to educate yourselves.

Leaving that aside, don't love the name Caitlyn but she looks great on the cover.

Oh please.

I am supposed to think this is normal because it is on the cover of vanity fair???

It isn't. it is weird and slightly gross.

Do what you want to do - get a sex change, wear dresses, have sex with animals for all I care, but I don't have to consider your behaviors a normal part of society because pop culture says so.

I won't persecute you for it but I will certainly judge you and think you have mental problems.

Well, that you should care about. It is the one thing listed that hurts a living being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of you who are applauding Bruce Jenner would say to an anorexic "Hey, you really ARE fat! Go on and starve to death, you go girl!"

No, you would get them treatment, not celebrate their body dysmorphic disorder.

We'll see how many people here can intelligently approach this, and not just say "bigot," "shut up", or similar things.

Maybe it is too simple, but one won't kill you. Strictly speaking yes both are forms of BDD. But gender constructs DO go much past the physical body so I can't say that its ONLY BDD in this case, its just a single part of that puzzle. Much like anorexia isn't solely about BDD but often about control and other links to OCD type disorders.

If someone has BDD and deems themselves to be the most amazing looking man on the planet despite being plain or even ugly it might make for an annoying personality but it won't kill the person. If someone feels gender dysmorphic and changes it similarly won't kill the person. If someone has BDD and intends to refuse food of any kind indefinitely it will indeed kill that person.

Treat what needs to be treated. Not what doesn't.

He did get treatment, by the way. It's called transitioning. She's now no longer in need of treatment because she's living the way she always needed to live. And like PP said, one is going to kill you because you are literally killing yourself. The other isn't. That's about as simplistic an explanation as your question was.

Sorry immediate PP, I just realized it sounds like I'm calling out your "treat what needs to be treated, not what doesn't" sentiment. I wasn't. I was adding on to what you said and agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll bet he twerks when he's alone watching himself in the mirror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the responses on this thread just show how far we have to go on this issue. People openly spewed the same hateful and ignorant garbage about interracial marriage and gay people just a generation or two ago. You all are on the wrong side of history and really need to educate yourselves.

Leaving that aside, don't love the name Caitlyn but she looks great on the cover.

Oh please.

I am supposed to think this is normal because it is on the cover of vanity fair???

It isn't. it is weird and slightly gross.

Do what you want to do - get a sex change, wear dresses, have sex with animals for all I care, but I don't have to consider your behaviors a normal part of society because pop culture says so.

I won't persecute you for it but I will certainly judge you and think you have mental problems.

Well many of us think people like you have mental problems too. Seriously. I read something like what you wrote and I think "wow, that person 1. isn't all intelligent, 2. isn't all that empathic, 3. probably has some mental health issues that don't allow them to critically think an issue through or see beyond their own nose or experience." So don't worry, we think it about you too.