Afterthoughts from AAP orientation

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Anonymous wrote:I think assuming some kids can’t handle is just evil. I came from another country with near 0 English and was given Worldly Wise in 6th grade (book6) along with all the novels (Tom Sawyer, The Outsider, My Brother Sam Is Dead), world history textbook, nervous system worksheets on the first day I arrived at my new American school. I’m dumb as f*** as my husband say, but I caught up in a month. Yes, there were some nights I had to stay up, and my limericks sucked, but my progression made me feel ecstatic, excited for school, and motivated. Needless to say, I excelled in school. I think this is how school should be, and what education should be, raising kids up not a race to the bottom. This was a public school btw. And this district didn’t have AAP BS. Just quality general education by qualified old school teachers.

Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think assuming some kids can’t handle is just evil. I came from another country with near 0 English and was given Worldly Wise in 6th grade (book6) along with all the novels (Tom Sawyer, The Outsider, My Brother Sam Is Dead), world history textbook, nervous system worksheets on the first day I arrived in my new American school. I’m dumb as f*** as my husband say, but I caught up in a month. Yes, there were some nights I had to stay up, and my limericks sucked, but my progression made me feel ecstatic, excited for school, and motivated. Needless to say, I excelled in school. I think this is how school should be, and what education should be, raising kids up not a race to the bottom. This was a public school btw. And this district didn’t have AAP BS. Just quality general education by qualified old school teachers.

Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

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Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the things we've noticed is that the AAP classroom has had more vocabulary work, but less reading and writing work. We are concerned with the lack of writing instruction. Has anyone noticed less reading and writing assignments in AAP than in general ed?

Absolutely not. Both my kids went through AAP. We were at a Center School so they retained their closest friends from the early ES years several of whom were to in AAP. They did waaaay more reading and writing than the kids not in AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole orientation and the projects that I saw were definitely very good. Could not stop wondering why can not the same medium of instructions be brought in regular classrooms. For example AAP does Ceaser English. I could not find anywhere that Ceaser English is meant only for kids with Cogat score greater than 132. Any student can take advantage of it as it is aimed at increasing vocabulary. I can understand that there are kids who need more help with learning than others, schools do have special ed teachers to help with that. It goes the same way to most of other projects and curriculum that was displayed at orientation. Just my two cents.

Ours in AAP and did not do ceaser English

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

+1
Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

May I know how can get a free assessment for my kid !
What if my son get a low score for any reason does that affect in the aap decision ?

[Anonymous]

AAP is so stupid.
Stop dumbing down school and then making kids apply to go to educational school.

[Anonymous]

Caesar's English?! What about Alexander's English and Beowulf's English?

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

+1
Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

May I know how can get a free assessment for my kid !
What if my son get a low score for any reason does that affect in the aap decision ?

Google is your friend for questions like this. Seriously.

https://cews.cehd.gmu.edu/cognitive-assessment-program/individual-assessment/fee-reduction

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

+1
Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

May I know how can get a free assessment for my kid !
What if my son get a low score for any reason does that affect in the aap decision ?

Google is your friend for questions like this. Seriously.

https://cews.cehd.gmu.edu/cognitive-assessment-program/individual- assessment/fee-reduction

Feel free to disregard my response if you're not comfortable sharing your insights. I'm seeking practical advice from those with real experiences, as the nuances are often missed in standard online searches. Let's maintain a positive atmosphere for knowledge exchange in this forum

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

+1
Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

May I know how can get a free assessment for my kid !
What if my son get a low score for any reason does that affect in the aap decision ?

Google is your friend for questions like this. Seriously.

https://cews.cehd.gmu.edu/cognitive-assessment-program/individual- assessment/fee-reduction

Feel free to disregard my response if you're not comfortable sharing your insights. I'm seeking practical advice from those with real experiences, as the nuances are often missed in standard online searches. Let's maintain a positive atmosphere for knowledge exchange in this forum

That's not what this forum was created for. Seriously.

The VA Schools Forum, yes. This one, no.

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Anonymous wrote:The resources are definitely available GE teachers in many schools. Training, too.

You are projecting a solution based on your very limited anecdotal experience. Many kids are not ready and it creates too much pressure and stress. Let every child learn at their pace. That is what GE teachers are likely trying to do.

Np. How many gen ed teachers do you know who use Caesar's English? The problem is because it's not a part of the gen ed curriculum, most kids who can handle it in Gen Ed don't get access because the teacher is too busy working with the kids who "aren't ready." That's why so many people parent refer and appeal. Bright gen ed kids get screwed because the base gen ed curriculum is dumbed down for the kids who aren't ready. How about if they aren't ready, they can get remedial help? So tired of bright but not gifted kids getting the shaft because of political correctness.

Wouldn't the same be true of the kids in AAP in third, with regard to how they "got the shaft" k-2 when they were likely sitting hearing things for years they already knew?

No most of them were way too busy prepping for Nnat and cogat.

Sad that you probably believe that. You also probably believe that any parent who is loud enough can get his kid in.

Probably not those who are loud enough, but definitely the ones with enough money to pay for a private WISC

+1
Interesting how so many successful appeals occur in the wealthier schools. Those parents are the only ones able to afford WISC testing.

GMU provides WISC, Cogat, and NNAT free to those who qualify for reduced price or free lunch at their public schools. This is a wonder option.

May I know how can get a free assessment for my kid !
What if my son get a low score for any reason does that affect in the aap decision ?

Google is your friend for questions like this. Seriously.

https://cews.cehd.gmu.edu/cognitive-assessment-program/individual- assessment/fee-reduction

Feel free to disregard my response if you're not comfortable sharing your insights. I'm seeking practical advice from those with real experiences, as the nuances are often missed in standard online searches. Let's maintain a positive atmosphere for knowledge exchange in this forum

That's not what this forum was created for. Seriously.

The VA Schools Forum, yes. This one, no.

Respecting diverse opinions is key in a forum. Deciding question suitability is not an individual's role. Let's value each member's input without dictating what's a 'good' question. Moderators are here for that purpose . Just relax and have a good night away from my silly questions.